The forbidden TRUTH

Ceepea

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And if you copy and paste something from the past, or something that just states the obvious like things from the past such as, living things are made up of similar matter, or Animals have body's that match there function (LOL) then you will cease again to prove my point at how unapproachable you are.
No, that's your simple mind coming up with another facile argument. This ones called a false dichotomy. Another logic fail from Captain Shortbus....

^^ Okay so it can only be two things.
1. GOD has given you the hardened heart to let your true emotions be shown, despite all logic and unimaginable eternity being burned, not like a body with adrenaline, with only so much to burn. A soul that is immortal and doesn't melt away with no adrenaline. Which GOD said HE would do, and GOD doesn't lie.
If god created me as an atheist and knew I'd die as an atheist, he's either impotent to stop people from suffering for eternity or he doesn't give a shit, in which case he's evil. Refute that, I dare you.

2.You know you are just trolling and are not trying to have a intelligent conversation.
Accusing me of trolling while simultaneously ignoring millions of pieces of evidence and multiple branches of science, is hypocrisy to the Nth degree.

 

ghostdriver

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You really want to believe the impossible, world and matter came from nothing and people evolve from germs as well as every thing.
Like my marijuana, you think this seed came from a germ. And it can appear from nothing. And it happens over time.
and light and water and man and women and you think these germs can do all these things and leave no evidence and just stop and not question how they could do this or where they came from, or why you are physically made the way you are.
And that these germs that have always been here somehow seem to have stopped transforming into things now. Because in reality things just decompose and die and people can't run into the water (us you claiming be the germs) and start to slowly grow gills over generations and become mermaids and be fish people and build Atlantis and have sharks as pets.
This is reality not something George Lucas or Steven Spielberg wrote.
SERIOUSLY MAN^
Reread it i'm baffled by your complete none existing perception...

Matter and creation has always been around??? Well that's impossible, you see we live in a reality where something can't just appear from nothing unless it has a higher power omnipotence that created it. Do you see water and gravel just appear in front of your face suddenly in thin air suddenly?
 

Ceepea

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SERIOUSLY MAN^
Reread it i'm baffled by your complete none existing perception...
It was painful to read the first time, I'll pass.

Matter and creation has always been around???
No, matter has always existed in some form or another. We have no reason to believe matter can be created or destroyed.

Well that's impossible,
More or less impossible than a magic sky daddy who knows everything, and sees everything, and can do anything, that created everything from nothing? He apparently loves us, and is capable of doing anything, but he can't seem to get rid of Satan or evil..... Seems likely!

you see we live in a reality where something can't just appear from nothing unless it has a higher power omnipotence that created it.
Yet a higher power can exist without another higher creator? That doesn't make sense. Your argument is "Something can't come from nothing", but the reason you believe this is because "God can come from nothing", as he didn't need a creator.... it doesn't make sense, it's called an "Infinite regression". Look it up, I'm sure you won't.

Do you see water and gravel just appear in front of your face suddenly in thin air suddenly?
No, and no one has suggested that's happened. Unless of course you're talking about the bible, where god just snaps his fingers and makes gravel and water appear.

That seems soooo plausible.
 

ghostdriver

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You


"If god created me as an atheist and knew I'd die as an atheist, he's either impotent to stop people from suffering for eternity or he doesn't give a shit, in which case he's evil. Refute that, I dare you."

Okay? I mean I have told you before which brings me back to post
And if you copy and paste something from the past, or something that just states the obvious like things from the past such as, living things are made up of similar matter, or Animals have body's that match there function (LOL) then you will cease again to prove my point at how unapproachable you are.

^^ Okay so it can only be two things.
1. GOD has given you the hardened heart to let your true emotions be shown, despite all logic and unimaginable eternity being burned, not like a body with adrenaline, with only so much to burn. A soul that is immortal and doesn't melt away with no adrenaline. Which GOD said HE would do, and GOD doesn't lie.
2.You know you are just trolling and are not trying to have a intelligent conversation.
So I don't know if it's 1 or 2.
or both but I will answer you..
GOD gave you "freewill" and you continue to choose to be "evil" by insulting the CREATOR. GOD can do anything he wants to you and no one. I mean no one..Cops, your mom and dad, The president, can ever change it. So GOD gave you free will and has ALL the POWER and will destroy all evil forever. GOD also made a way to all those who don't want to be destroyed by the evil they did GOD sacrificed his only beloved son being crucified purged the sins of all those who seek life in truth.
GOD HAS GRACE, MERCY, POWER and GLORY forever and ever. AND GLORY TO THE SAVIOR LORD JESUS CHRIST SON OF GOD
 

ghostdriver

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You:
"No, matter has always existed in some form or another. We have no reason to believe matter can be created or destroyed. "



- If matter is here it got created do you have proof that something is able to come from nothing? EXACTLY
 

Ceepea

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- If matter is here it got created do you have proof that something is able to come from nothing? EXACTLY
You are assuming that god made it. There's no actual evidence of creation whatsoever.

I'm saying there was no creation at all, it's always existed and will always exist. The universe is eternal in one way or another.
 

ghostdriver

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You are assuming that god made it. There's no actual evidence of creation whatsoever.

I'm saying there was no creation at all, it's always existed and will always exist. The universe is eternal in one way or another.
I'm saying that it is absolutely impossible for you to deny the existence of GOD. I'm not assuming anything I'm telling you a fact.
Your religion is literally impossible. And has as much factual suggestion as a sci fi movie
 

ghostdriver

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If you guys think you can go to the ocean and start making sea people to save money of food or something I just can't explain how silly you would look.
 

Ceepea

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I'm saying that it is absolutely impossible for you to deny the existence of GOD. I'm not assuming anything I'm telling you a fact.
Your religion is literally impossible. And has as much factual suggestion as a sci fi movie
Again, what am I supposed to say to someone who doesn't value evidence and logic? What evidence based, logical argument am I going to provide?

I'm denying the existence of god right now. How am I doing something impossible? How does 10-15% of the USA do the impossible everyday? I guess they're gods too? lol

I've already posted the links to everything you've asked for, and your response has been, "That's not true". No explanation, nothing to refute the scientific analysis, or peer-review articles. Just you saying "It's wrong".... lol That's your argument.

If you guys think you can go to the ocean and start making sea people to save money of food or something I just can't explain how silly you would look.
Again, you're demonstrating how little you understand about evolution and natural selection.
 

Ceepea

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I literally feel like i'm watching you fall into a obscure and irrational abyss, even though I'm miles from you.
In your current condition, I don't understand how you can presume to judge anyone's mental state or ability to convey logic.
 

ghostdriver

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^ To a sane mind this is really proving my point of you
"I don't know what i'm posting" because one of the sources is published by a man who is islamic? What about wikipedia and the rest of the world? are they not creditable? Do you claim to have some sort of further insight or evidence that could support these wild impossible allegations? If you think you can someone how prove your theory of why these six skeletons have any signs of evolution please do so and stop your pointless insults to a person who's life you can never have a negative impact on. Besides explaining the obvious facts about the animals traits based upon it's living environment which in no way suggest your religion plausible. Which in fact explains a creator.

And if you copy and paste something from the past, or something that just states the obvious like things from the past such as, living things are made up of similar matter, or Animals have body's that match there function (LOL) then you will cease again to prove my point at how unapproachable you are.
You really want to believe the impossible, world and matter came from nothing and people evolve from germs as well as every thing.
Like my marijuana, you think this seed came from a germ. And it can appear from nothing. And it happens over time.
and light and water and man and women and you think these germs can do all these things and leave no evidence and just stop and not question how they could do this or where they came from, or why you are physically made the way you are.
And that these germs that have always been here somehow seem to have stopped transforming into things now. Because in reality things just decompose and die and people can't run into the water (us you claiming be the germs) and start to slowly grow gills over generations and become mermaids and be fish people and build Atlantis and have sharks as pets.
This is reality not something George Lucas or Steven Spielberg wrote.
 

ghostdriver

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Everything you just posted states that the body of humans and creatures have the ability to be acclimated which was the starting point of darwins theory. There is no proof that human beings come from bacteria or any creature ever. I'm sure you got excited at this misleading presentation but read what you posted. Your'e saying that I said animals and human beings flesh are not similar, they are very similar in someways but our soul is nothing like theirs. I'm not asking you to prove survival of the fittest ether, which this mentions, or how animals belonging to the same gene pool can mate with other animals making adaptions to their body. All dogs and cats are mixed breeds, and different nationalities have different traits skin, eyes, face ect. That change based on your partner in your gene pool. Our skin and body also will become more resilient to sun, or weather the longer we endure it. GOD's creation is awesome. Darwins theory is that this proves his theory. I already knew this. I know what your religion believes, this is what you think of as holy scripture. Now where is the proof that
germs=Human beings
germs= made creation matter and light
germs made germs or germs have always been. Matter can't create mater unless it's THE ALMIGHTY OMNIPOTENT GOD
I will begin to ask you questions knowing the answer to prove your religion is wrong if you want me too. But you said you have proof I know what you think but I want your proof. This is like a islam man posting Qu'ran saying "this this is proof!" I would tell him the same thing i'm telling you this isn't proof this is your theory I already knew your blasphemous cult theory. I would then ask for proof again so where is all your proof you speak of? (asking knowing the answer because I am a witness of GOD) Then if you want I can begin to ask you questions ( knowing the answers) to have blatantly show you the irrational and obscure view your'e being tricked into.
- Post 804 answering your post 803
Response to your post not liking this post
And Claiming all creatures are built a certain way to swim, run, fly ect. is clearly proof of GOD not that bacteria are constantly trying to evolve into human beings with the ability also to be monkeys, elephants, giraffe, ect. lol this is a horrible blaspheme theory based on the noticing how animals are all built in a certain way to pertaining to how they live? So instead realizing GOD made everything the way it is for a reason stars, sun, earth temp, earth spin, all the animals and your fingers and toes, body ect. Your religion says "that's impossible you have never seen that happened so believe something else you have never seen that people and animals constantly evolve from bacteria and we don't know anything else but this is right we are positive, and even though there is no bacteria forming into creatures or humans or anything in which would EVER suggest this, we have no evidence at all for this idea, but because all the other options are wrong because we say science doesn't support that a being can create things, because we haven't seen it.? Well science says your'e wrong because batter can't create something from nothing, Only THE CREATOR GOD can.
 

ghostdriver

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Every marine Biologist knows what the Hen bone is and what it's used for it's not legs. It's a pelvic bone designed by GOD which helps in the mating.
http://www.trueorigin.org/ng_whales01.asp Doesn't list speculation it's listing facts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakicetus is very clear that some people THINK that, but that's not based off evidence.
Pakicetus is an extinct genus of amphibious cetacean of the family Pakicetidae which was endemic to the Eocene of Pakistan.[1]The vast majority of paleontologists regard it as the most basal whale.
-If this was fact with real evidence all paleontologist would agree.Pakicetus was originally described as being a mesonychid, but later research reclassified it as an early cetacean due to characteristic features of the inner ear found only incetaceans; namely, the large auditory bulla is formed from theectotympanicbone only. It was then believed to be descended from mesonychids, according to Gingerich & Russell 1981. However, the redescription of the primitive, semi-aquatic artiodactyl Indohyus, and the discovery of its cetacean-like inner ear simultaneously put an end to the idea that whales were descended from mesonychids, while demonstrating that Pakicetus, and all other cetaceans, are artiodactyls. Thus, Pakicetus represents a transitional taxon between extinct land mammals and modern cetaceans.[4]
- Gingerich again but then corrects himself when he finds what he calls "new evidence" LOL
-Gingerich also from the 2001 November issue on the walking whales LOL which
It was illustrated on the cover of Science as a semiaquatic, vaguely crocodilelike mammal, diving after fish.[5]

- LOL completely not what it looks like on wikipedia
Somewhat more complete skeletal remains were discovered in 2001, prompting the view that Pakicetus was primarily a land animal about the size of a wolf, and very similar in form to the related mesonychids. Thewissen et al. 2001 wrote that "Pakicetids were terrestrial mammals, no more amphibious than a tapir."[6]
However, Thewissen et al. 2009 argued that "the orbits ... of these cetaceans were located close together on top of the skull, as is common in aquatic animals that live in water but look at emerged objects. Just like Indohyus, limb bones of pakicetids areosteosclerotic, also suggestive of aquatic habitat"[7] (since heavy bones provide ballast). "This peculiarity could indicate thatPakicetus could stand in water, almost totally immersed, without losing visual contact with the air."[8]
The Pakicetus skeleton reveals several details regarding the creature's unique senses, and provides a newfound ancestral link between terrestrial and aquatic animals. As previously mentioned, the Pakicetus' upward-facing eye placement was a significant indication of its habitat. Even more so, however, was its auditory abilities. Like all other cetaceans, Pakicetus had a thickened skull bone known as the auditory bulla, which was specialized for underwater hearing.[9] Cetaceans also all categorically exhibit a large mandibular foramen within the lower jaw, which holds a fat pack and extends towards the ear, both of which are also associated with underwater hearing. "Pakicetus is the only cetacean in which the mandibular foramen is small, as is the case in all terrestrial animals. It thus lacked the fat pad, and sounds reached its eardrum following the external auditory meatus as in terrestrial mammals. Thus the hearing mechanism of Pakicetus is the only known intermediate between that of land mammals and aquatic cetaceans."[10]With both the auditory and visual senses in mind, as well as the typical diet of Pakicetus, one might assume the
- Your basically reading this and thinking because this creature isn't just like another one, it's got to be in the middle of it evolving phase LOL
None of the features in question are any evidence of an evolutionary relationship. Even evolutionists admit that most of the theoretical relationships built on the basis of anatomical similarities between animals are completely untrustworthy. If the marsupial Tasmanian wolf and the common placental wolf had both been extinct for a long time, then it is no doubt that evolutionists would picture them in the same taxon and define them as very close relatives. However, we know that these two different animals, although strikingly similar in their anatomy, are very far from each other in the supposed evolutionary tree of life. (In fact their similarity indicates common design—not common descent.) Pakicetus, which National Geographicdeclared to be a ‘walking whale,’ was a unique species harboring different features in its body. In fact, Carroll, an authority on vertebrate paleontology, describes the Mesonychid family, of whichPakicetus should be a member, as “exhibiting an odd combination of characters.”[3] Such prominent evolutionists as Gould accept that ‘mosaic creatures’ of this type cannot be considered as transitional forms.
Do you think the duck billed platypus turning into a complete duck?
So your'e saying GOD can't create creation and has always been? but the Universe can create and has always been? That's literally believing in something that you claim is impossible.
"You think because GOD ALMIGHTY is the beginning and the end, you can state that the universe can be the same because it's following the same principal? That's completely erroneous. The only reason GOD is before everything is because GOD is a living omnipotent being that you cannot fathom. Before the beginning GOD was."- page 43


I'm really bewildered how someone can ignore all evidence and revolve there existence based off from 6 skeletons that show no scientific evidence of mutation connecting the 6. Let alone the millions of others leading up to six, and all the other animals and contradictions of your darwin theory which is too broad to list.. This whole theory and religion around the skeletons of Pakicetus becoming a whale literally holds not factual evidence. Mere suggestion of thought. If wolverines were extinct no doubt you would claim that skeleton was leading to bears from the weasel family and was a early version of a bear. You would actually have a lot better case, but thankfully we know because they are both still around this would be a lie. Believe it or not animals species die off all the time, this doesn't mean they are some link in your evolutionary chain. The difference between the animals is beyond drastic, not a slow form evolution. Your saying these animals evolved like poke'mon over night, into a whole new complete species. You would have to have hundreds of slow evolving skeletons leading into these giant leaps of different creations which you compare to be the same. To suggest what you are saying as factual.


Praise THE ALMIGHTY GOD JUDGE over all things and HIS SON LORD JESUS CHRIST GOD over men's souls.
 

ghostdriver

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You really want to believe the impossible, world and matter came from nothing and people evolve from germs as well as every thing.
Like my marijuana, you think this seed came from a germ. And it can appear from nothing. And it happens over time.
and light and water and man and women and you think these germs can do all these things and leave no evidence and just stop and not question how they could do this or where they came from, or why you are physically made the way you are.
And that these germs that have always been here somehow seem to have stopped transforming into things now. Because in reality things just decompose and die and people can't run into the water (us you claiming be the germs) and start to slowly grow gills over generations and become mermaids and be fish people and build Atlantis and have sharks as pets.
This is reality not something George Lucas or Steven Spielberg wrote.
 

ghostdriver

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So there is reality literally explaining how everything you stated is suggestion of evolutionist which is the theory of there religion.
A impossible one nonetheless .
Also this whole thread has been beyond a awesome experience for me, GOD has literally used me to explain all these ignorant theory's, to tell you wonders that I have seen, and explain the "famine" of GOD which is the time we are in, and to tell you about the sacrifice that is salvation through the SON of GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST. And that Judgment time not only for you and your own personal expiration date is at hand, but THE GREAT and TERRIBLE DAY of THE LORD is at hand. Tomorrow, today one thousand years from now. Regardless it is happening soon. Laughing it off and surrounding yourself with people with the same interest will by no means delay the inevitable. Mocking GOD and letting your vanity run wild will not stop the inevitable. Surrounding yourself with media that mocks CREATOR will by no means stop the inevitable.
You are, WE are the last of generations with this cult darwin leading the world. Invading or music and media from all sides trying to start a "NWO" LORD JESUS CHRIST came towards the end. No more prophets, this is it and the famine which was this cult of darwin with gay marriage and abortions. And you are falling for this ignorance that proves nothing but the vanity and evil of mankind? And the willingness to go at beyond great lengths... impossible lengths justify to justify your actions? Thinking that you, being a creation knows better then the MIGHTY CREATOR who created you? This biggest epitome of pride,vanity, and arrogance.
We are in 2014, this new idea of evolution came up at the end of mankind. And it's simply going to great lengths of insanity to justify lustful abominations unto ones body, and to kill unborn children.
  1. B.C. does stand for “before Christ.” A.D. actually stands for the Latin phrase anno domini, which means “in the year of our Lord.” The B.C./A.D.dating system is not taught in the Bible. It actually was not fully implemented and accepted until several centuries after Jesus' death.
 

tyler.durden

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Repent through JESUS CHRIST GOD is a loving merciful and forgiving GOD.
That doesn't mean that HE will not destroy the evil like HE said HE would.
Translation: I've got nothing left and I don't know what's going on, so please love my invisible friend. I need this in order to feel supported in my unprovable choice, so please play make believe with me so we can pretend all of your inconvenient facts don't exist...
 

Ceepea

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^ To a sane mind this is really proving my point of you
It's funny, there's you arguing against a mountain of evidence and a bunch of other people, while calling everyone else crazy.

If everyone including the experts say you're wrong, but you still persist you're right, that's pretty much a text book definition of delusional. So congratulations of being a delusional nut case.
 
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