Aid to Israel rape of American taxpayer
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ViRedd
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And of course you are right about that Dave. Very unprincipled. BUT ... the support of democracy, in and of itself, is never unprincipled. Slavery is unprincipled ... never liberty.
There was no better example of the differences of political philosophy than the differences between East and West Berlin before the wall came down. Its mirrored today in the Middle East with Israel as the shining example.
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mjetta
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Not really true man
There are monarchies, but they are figure heads only, much like the U.K
medicineman
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Well, it would not be a simple one as they are so entrenched into our society. Hitler had one, but I reject that. You can't kill your way out of this dillema. I would suggest that the responsible Jews be counceled by their religious leaders and led to the path of righteousness. A path that would include following the ten commandments. I realize that in this current world there can be no solutions and I only post the problems, as the solutions lie with God. This also applies to christians and other religions. Follow the ten commandments to the letter and believe there is a better world waiting. Otherwise, live it up like there is no tomorrow, and take your licks, for I feel that this will be reality soon enough.BTW, don't take my hitler comment out of context, it was simply a referance to historySo then Med ... what would your "Solution" to the "Jewish Problem" be?
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Johnnyorganic
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Excellent response, Med. I mean that sincerely. I do have a couple of comments.
You are right about the National Socialists, and their solution to the 'Jewish Problem' was downright ignored by the civilized world, especially the West. Shame on us for allowing that to happen. Our collective guilt over the Holocaust gave birth to modern Israel. Zionism may have been a concept by the late 19th Century, but it was the Holocaust which made the State of Israel a reality.
Your next statement brings up a question. You wrote "You can't kill your way out of this dillema." I agree. The Islamists wish to kill their way out of their 'Jewish Problem' just as the National Socialists of Germany sought to do. Must we stand silent and let this happen unabated once again?
I think I understand your position and correct me if I am wrong, it's a form of wealth envy, or class envy. I don't mean that in a provocative fashion because I believe it is genuine. Possibly even pathological. You despise wealthy & powerful people whatever their 'protected class' status. For you, the rich are evil and greedy. Not a criticism, just an observation.
ViRedd
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But, if the Ten Commandments were followed to the letter, what would happen to the Socialist Utopian Dream?
"Do not have any other gods before me." That, of course would include the God-State.
"You shall not steal." There goes the transfer of wealth.
"You shall not covet your neighbours house; you shall not covet your neighbours wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour." There goes the progressive income tax.
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ViRedd
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Excellent response, Johnny ... you nailed it on both counts.Excellent response, Med. I mean that sincerely. I do have a couple of comments.
You are right about the National Socialists, and their solution to the 'Jewish Problem' was downright ignored by the civilized world, especially the West. Shame on us for allowing that to happen. Our collective guilt over the Holocaust gave birth to modern Israel. Zionism may have been a concept by the late 19th Century, but it was the Holocaust which made the State of Israel a reality.
Your next statement brings up a question. You wrote "You can't kill your way out of this dillema." I agree. The Islamists wish to kill their way out of their 'Jewish Problem' just as the National Socialists of Germany sought to do. Must we stand silent and let this happen unabated once again?
I think I understand your position and correct me if I am wrong, it's a form of wealth envy, or class envy. I don't mean that in a provocative fashion because I believe it is genuine. Possibly even pathological. You despise wealthy & powerful people whatever their 'protected class' status. For you, the rich are evil and greedy. Not a criticism, just an observation.
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medicineman
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I think you ought to take a better look at that "do not steal" one yourself. I've never taken anyones money without offering a genuine valid service. The service that you offered was way over priced, 1.5% of a 3 million dollar home is 45,000 bucks, all in a days work, eh?
ViRedd
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I only "take" that which is agreed upon in advance, Med. You know, like a mutual contractual agreement?
Socialists, on the other hand, take what is unearned at the expense of another through force at the point of a gun if necessary.
My way is called free trade. The other is called highway robbery and thuggery.
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medicineman
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As any person that had to eat cornflakes and powdered milk as a small child would say, hell yes I'm pissed. I watched the rules from the start of school to maturity. There were always favored individuals, Children that were eating steak while I went home to corn flakes. There were those that their parents were town bigshots, business owners and such that had children in new clothes and they were the class favorites while I had holes in my 3 year old levis. My dad had a 6th grade education and he worked as hard as any man I've ever seen to feed and shelter us. I ended up with a 2 year college degree that I had to attain at night school because I worked two jobs and went to college at night while supporting a wife and three kids. I saw the kids in the porsches coming in to sign up for college while I drove a 12 year old ford. Hell yeah I'm pissed at rich assholes. They never had to face the hurdels that I did. They don't know what it's like to miss a few meals, or be cold because the gas was turned off. I don't snivel, but that doesn't preclude me from being pissed. I believe the world should be turned around. The rich should give up their riches and everyone could have food, clothing and shelter at least as good as mine. I personally don't need a damn thing from them, I'm doing fine, it just pisses me off how some get to have it so fucking easy, while others work their asses off just to feed their families. I feel that my style of living could be had by every individual on earth if the wealth was re-distributed. Hey, I'd even give up my vaunted HotRod for equality. "The preceding was a recording found at a fucking, stinking, commie site in Kabul Afghanistan"Excellent response, Med. I mean that sincerely. I do have a couple of comments.
You are right about the National Socialists, and their solution to the 'Jewish Problem' was downright ignored by the civilized world, especially the West. Shame on us for allowing that to happen. Our collective guilt over the Holocaust gave birth to modern Israel. Zionism may have been a concept by the late 19th Century, but it was the Holocaust which made the State of Israel a reality.
Your next statement brings up a question. You wrote "You can't kill your way out of this dillema." I agree. The Islamists wish to kill their way out of their 'Jewish Problem' just as the National Socialists of Germany sought to do. Must we stand silent and let this happen unabated once again?
I think I understand your position and correct me if I am wrong, it's a form of wealth envy, or class envy. I don't mean that in a provocative fashion because I believe it is genuine. Possibly even pathological. You despise wealthy & powerful people whatever their 'protected class' status. For you, the rich are evil and greedy. Not a criticism, just an observation.
Seamaiden
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Huh? How the hell do you know that? You paint anyone who earns a certain amount with the most incredibly BROAD brush that it really makes me wonder just what kind of life it is you've chosen to lead.
Yes, you do. You complain bitterly.
Even if they've earned it through hard work? What if you were earning over six figures with the limited education you've received? Would your sentiments really be the same? If so, then please, divest yourself of excess funds until you're just scraping by. Who knows, you may bring someone else out of poverty.
There ya go. Live what you preach.
Start at home, start with yourself. Start dispersing those goods and funds!
Johnnyorganic
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I understood everything except the last sentence. What was your meaning with such a non sequitur?
It is this rage which drives your angry posts in general and the posts about Jews specifically. You come from the position that rich Jews betray the tenets of their faith by chasing the dollar. Your anger at the rich is righteous, but by singling out rich Jews, it sounds like a stereotype and comes out sounding hateful in racial terms.
Right to property is a key element to our society, which is Constitutional, and drives our incentive.
I predict even if all wealth were redistributed as you seem to advocate, it would be largely redistributed in favor of the currently powerful again in a matter of years, even months in extreme cases. Once again, the rich will make choices which make them rich now. Meanwhile poor people will make choices which keep them poor now. What happens then? Regular redistribution of wealth?
The top 50% of income earners pay 97% of federal income taxes. The bottom 50% pays 3% of federal income taxes.
The top 1% of income earners pay 40% of all federal income taxes.
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How much more should we pay?
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undertheice
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the answer, of course, is everything. comfortable poverty for all, except those enlightened individuals who would lead us into this brave new world. the only thing new about the rhetoric of the liberal leadership is that it is taken at all seriously as an alternative in a free and wealthy country. it's an ideology based on petty jealousy and class envy that is usually reserved for societies where the majority are completely ignorant and in a state of abject poverty. our ignorance now is the belief that everyone is entitled to the best of everything and our poverty is the bankrupt spirit of those too frightened by effort and risk to attempt to succeed.
ccodiane
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Idiocy...........that's what happens when you start agreeing with Med to disagree with others. Be a man..........Excellent response, Med. I mean that sincerely. I do have a couple of comments.
You are right about the National Socialists, and their solution to the 'Jewish Problem' was downright ignored by the civilized world, especially the West. Shame on us for allowing that to happen. Our collective guilt over the Holocaust gave birth to modern Israel. Zionism may have been a concept by the late 19th Century, but it was the Holocaust which made the State of Israel a reality.
Your next statement brings up a question. You wrote "You can't kill your way out of this dillema." I agree. The Islamists wish to kill their way out of their 'Jewish Problem' just as the National Socialists of Germany sought to do. Must we stand silent and let this happen unabated once again?
I think I understand your position and correct me if I am wrong, it's a form of wealth envy, or class envy. I don't mean that in a provocative fashion because I believe it is genuine. Possibly even pathological. You despise wealthy & powerful people whatever their 'protected class' status. For you, the rich are evil and greedy. Not a criticism, just an observation.
ccodiane
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"You can't kill your way out of this (dillema)." I agree.
1 L, 2 M's "smart guy"
What's the dilemma fellas?? The "Jews" run the world?? Then they fucking deserve to "run the world". Quit crying. Or convert to Islam. Be fucking men and join the Islamic faith............... Take a stand against these infidels, all the infidels.................
1 L, 2 M's "smart guy"
What's the dilemma fellas?? The "Jews" run the world?? Then they fucking deserve to "run the world". Quit crying. Or convert to Islam. Be fucking men and join the Islamic faith............... Take a stand against these infidels, all the infidels.................
ccodiane
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