GMO pot on the way

941mick

941mick

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cephalopod said:
So who permitted them to do the work on this development since 2011? Is it just me or would anyone else be jailed for admitted something like this? {imo they should be jailed on the gmo grounds alone} Money green lights murder. Money money money.
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Companies can operate in multiple countries and in those who are not in the UN(where anti drug agreements have been made), so if this is true it really isn't surprising...
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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Do you have to sign a contract to buy it?

What if my outdoor grow just happens to get pollinated then I owe them a crop.

And what if I find a seed in my bud, am I allowed to grow it?

And I know I try to grow organic for a reason, I can't imagine GMO buds being very good.
 
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reasonevangelist

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a senile fungus said:
Do you have to sign a contract to buy it?

What if my outdoor grow just happens to get pollinated then I owe them a crop.

And what if I find a seed in my bud, am I allowed to grow it?

And I know I try to grow organic for a reason, I can't imagine GMO buds being very good.
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IMO, you should counter-sue THEM, for negligently (or intentionally) pollinating your crop with their bogus contaminated mutant freak creation, which NO ONE WANTS.
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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a senile fungus said:
Do you have to sign a contract to buy it?

What if my outdoor grow just happens to get pollinated then I owe them a crop.

And what if I find a seed in my bud, am I allowed to grow it?

And I know I try to grow organic for a reason, I can't imagine GMO buds being very good.
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Can you explain what gmo uas to do with organic?
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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a senile fungus said:
Do you have to sign a contract to buy it?

What if my outdoor grow just happens to get pollinated then I owe them a crop.

And what if I find a seed in my bud, am I allowed to grow it?

And I know I try to grow organic for a reason, I can't imagine GMO buds being very good.
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If your crop is pollinates it is in turn now monsanto property.

They have taken peoples farms and livelyhoods over this in other agricultural niches
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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Can someone whos posted here already, who has a firm grasp of the concept of *GMO's* tell me your reasoning for your negative opinion on them?


Im very curious :)
 
941mick

941mick

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hydroMD said:
Can someone whos posted here already, who has a firm grasp of the concept of *GMO's* tell me your reasoning for your negative opinion on them?


Im very curious :)
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I'm not so much anti GMO, as I am anti Monsanto. I will say that the unnatural aspect bothers me slightly, because of the effects it could have on the natural environment. Our industrialization as a species has already changed the scope of our environment, and it would be sad to see science via GMO possibly have similar effects on the food chain.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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I don't appreciate them trying to patent living things.

Also, I believe that specific breeding and crossing is healthy for the species and that GMO does not stand for these ideals.

I grow as organically as possible because it is natural and earth-friendly, and the buds are great from it. A GMO strain of pot will have the potency and flavor engineered into it, not bred. I can imagine pest problems etc from the engineering already...

I guess my biggest thing against it is the breeding. I think that the future of cannabis lies in the genetics and I don't want to see the genetics muddled with by a company.
 
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reasonevangelist

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"genetically modified organism" = jurassic park

They don't really know that they can accomplish SAFE genetic modifications, which will have neither immediate nor eventual consequences.

Furthermore: Monsanto is just Bad. They need to be dissolved, ASAP. Spreading your genetically engineered pollen DOES NOT make you own MY crop. It would be tantamount to claiming ownership of a woman after impregnating her via rape; obviously logically fallacious and offensive. If you can't keep your pollen to yourself, i'm free to do with it as i please!
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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a senile fungus said:
I don't appreciate them trying to patent living things.

Also, I believe that specific breeding and crossing is healthy for the species and that GMO does not stand for these ideals.

I grow as organically as possible because it is natural and earth-friendly, and the buds are great from it. A GMO strain of pot will have the potency and flavor engineered into it, not bred. I can imagine pest problems etc from the engineering already...

I guess my biggest thing against it is the breeding. I think that the future of cannabis lies in the genetics and I don't want to see the genetics muddled with by a company.
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From a science standpoint, splitting haploids in a plant genus is the same as breeding, only results can be attained faster than doing so in a greenhouse.

The process that occurs is the same except manually with controlled environment.

If anything a gmo should do better against pests. One of the biggest reasons behind current gmo research is pest resistance so a broader spectrum of agriculture csn be produced in various conditions.
 
a senile fungus

a senile fungus

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hydroMD said:
From a science standpoint, splitting haploids in a plant genus is the same as breeding, only results can be attained faster than doing so in a greenhouse.

The process that occurs is the same except manually with controlled environment.

If anything a gmo should do better against pests. One of the biggest reasons behind current gmo research is pest resistance so a broader spectrum of agriculture csn be produced in various conditions.
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Splitting haploids? What're we talking about? Cannabis is diploid, 2n, the sex cells are haploid, n. Recombination of sex cells creates new individuals. Splitting haploid cells, as far as I know, can only be done in a lab. Its been a while since I've taken genetics though...

Selective breeding can, through multiple generations, select for certain characteristics and make the line stable. But specifically taking certain fragments of DNA and transplanting from one cell to the next is not the same as breeding...

The process is not the same, but some of the results may be. They may be able to genetically engineer a strain to be pest resistant, but a strain bred to be naturally pest resistant is superior in my book.

IMO gene splicing and genetic engineering techniques are nowhere similar to breeding. In breeding the combination of DNA from parents produces offspring. As we all know genetic variability is good, and natural reproduction encourages such variability.

But GM cannabis will be, as I see it, a brand name product, and there will be consistency and not variability.

I understand what you're saying about many GMO products, human insulin being one of them. But I think that messing with the genome of bacteria is different than messing with the genome of a flowering plant that does complex things to us that we don't fully understand yet.

I don't think they should be messing with the DNA of the plant that produces these complex molecules that we don't fully understand in the first place.
 
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ProHuman

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GMOs were developed by monsanto to aid with large farmers in pest control.
Monsanto makes round up, which we all knows kills weeds, but it can also kill productive plants as well. Monsanto began to engineer the genes of the plants, and introduced a formula to allow the plants to be sprayed with round up, but not die from it. In this fashion, farmers could spray poison on their entire field, and the corn/soy/whatever would not die.
Supreme Court Justice Clearance Thomas, who was a former monsanto attorney, has ruled against the people, and for monsanto each and every time, allowing the company to patent life. which is a conflict of interests, and allowed the company to be above the law.
Monsanto now controls practically all of todays food. Monsanto has patents on plants and animals. Farmers must obey monsantos rules for farming, and for ranching. Strict policies for diet, hormones, and specific instructions must be followed, and the farmers must buy the current required equipment. This means farmers are no longer in business for themselves, they are owned by this huge mega corporation.
In fact, Monsanto has an army of attorneys whose sole purpose is to find patent infringement, and sue. If 2 farmers grow corn, and the one across the road is Monsanto seed, and the other is not.. that monsanto seed will pollinate the non gmo crop... and become patent infringement.
This is a very corrupt system and it should never have been given consent to start. It is scary to know that the same company that makes poisons like agent orange and round up, are now in charge of the food industry.
 
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