Cannabis oil recipe questions

Do you believe cannabis oil can kill cancer cells and stop them from spreading through the body?


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gb123

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gb123, please stop with the jabs. I'm not after making money. I haven't said all the information because I haven't got confirmation as to the success of my PhD application yet. Why does my post mean I have to be after making a buck? I haven't commented on where I'd get the weed from because I am talking to LP's that I know of and they haven't even thought about my conversation yet so please, let me educate myself without the negativity and jabs. People here have a world of experience and that's what I am after. If there are others doing research like this then that is fantastic. But it is still research that is needed. The politicians and the doctors are saying where's the evidence? When we do show them they say, not good enough. So the more of us out there who are doing it the better. Somebody in the posts above said at a minimum of 1-4 grams a day. Look up there. Somebody wrote it. All I did was start my calculations with one gram a day and factor in costs from there. Just to show you a university catch 22, to get into a masters or PhD you need to do a research proposal and in there you show studies that are showing similar findings.

The more you have the better your chances are that the university will allow you to go forward. You also need to have a 'supervisor' who will monitor your progress through the whole thing and that means you have to go to the post graduate section at a universities website and try and find somebody who would be interested in what you want to do. If you can't find one, then your research goes nowhere. I have been contacting universities all over Canada and internationally. Let me tell you - it isn't easy trying to get through the doors when there are no supervisors interested in your research. I'm sure Mr. Simpsn feels the same way when he tried to show cannabis oil worked on cancer to all the proper people and organizations only to have doors slammed in his face.

If researchers aren't getting into universities because the uni's won't allow their research to be done - the bad guys win yet again for another decade. We need many more trials and we definitely need more PhD's based around cannabis research of some kind. Why? So you can allow more researchers that want to do cannabis research to get in. They need mentors/supervisors as a rule. There's a majority of universities that are blocking this kind of thing but I wasn't going to mention that in his thread because it is more bad news. To get this done we need motivation and determination to continue.

But after saying that I watched two segments of rick simpson's you tube videos and I've learned even more. Thanks to the guys that posted that!

He said give a person 4 doses of half a piece of rice size each time at each meal and then once before bed. Sounds like less than a gram a day to me. Then four weeks later you up it to the size of a grain of rice 4 times a day.

You do use a solvent to make the oil. Simpson said 2.5 american gallons of isoproponol( Sp?) will be the amount to use for 1 pound of bud.

But if you have crystal all over your leaves, you could also use that and that trim would drop the price drastically. Something like white widow perhaps?

Leaffan thanks for posting that crowd funding article. They do say you should be using social media to promote your campaign. Social media could also mean targeting specifically interest groups. As an example a promotional ad campaign done right here at roll it up, and link to a thread which has a crowd funding video on it. Another idea would be to promote the campaign in a big local paper and do radio ads. So I'd need some start up money to get the ball rolling. Maybe I could call that 'phase 1' of the campaign...

Appreciate your contributions! :-)
I get it. You want to save the world!
Why not let people who have an understanding, do the work?

PS..by the way, simpson is only a guide line. Things have changed a wee bit since he started.
GOOGLE will answer your questions better than anyone here can.
You think im making jabs at you and Im trying to be nice by saying, quit wasting your time.
 

kDude

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personally, i don't think people should use isopropyl for making medicine.
you should go with everclear.. but you can't just walk in and buy that in canada (well, most provinces)
being a nurse you should be able to get access though.

only thing i'm gonna touch on ;)
good luck.
 

symptum

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I think ISO is OK as long as you do a vac purge or low temp purge or combination of both for a long time afterwards. And only if you use 99% Iso.
 
Thank you so much for giving me all this input over night good people. I am trying for a randomized control trial. I am trying to speak with an oncologist I know. I know that LP's are not well thought of here. They haven't given me answers yet. There's so much to figure out but your comments have helped me a lot so for that I thank you.

I agree that the oil that is used for such a study should be enough for the entire study. That calculation I did using the bud tells me it's to much money but perhaps I could use the trimmings. One person said use the whole plant but the stalks are so fibrous that I can't see how that would be done. Or perhaps one summer I get outdoors and do a massive grow heh heh to make the oil that I need. I haven't checked on the compassion clubs yet. Not until I know if I am going to be accepted to do my research.

The preliminary research that I went through was between 2001-2013 and I read that there was invitro studies (in the lab on a piece of glass) and then In Vivo which means in a living body. Mostly mice but there was one human trial. What they found in what I read was that cannabis oil reduced - stopped cancer cells from growing and prevented them from spreading. Very important because some of the studies were for brain cancer, blood cancer, and pancreatic cancer. Those spread quickly and death is usually the prognosis.

If you ever come across a study, please post it here so I can find it and read through it. A PhD usually has 500-2000 references in it of studies that had similar findings so the more studies being done, the more help I have. Cheers.
 
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MarijeJane

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Thank you so much for giving me all this input over night good people. I am trying for a randomized control trial. I am trying to speak with an oncologist I know. I know that LP's are not well thought of here. They haven't given me answers yet. There's so much to figure out but your comments have helped me a lot so for that I thank you.
If you are actually attempting to do a nursing masters degree, you certainly would understand that to do any such research, you would need to demonstrate and consistently replicate the constituents of the 'oil" that is provided to patients. As with all quantitative research, you will need to document and verify how many micro grams of each significant cannabinoid, including but not limited to THC and CBD are in each dose. You would also need a placebo if you intend to do a peer reviewed, double blind study. As you will be using a mind altering substance, you will likely need to do this on an inpatient basis as to eliminate potential adverse or dangerous reactions and to limit liability. This is a much bigger process than I think you realize.
 
Thanks MarijeJane. I already have my masters. But that is just an academic qualification. My passion comes from being a patient. If I had had the oil and knew of it, then maybe I would not of gone through the surgery or the radio therapy. It is a huge undertaking, but why I am I not allowed by some within this community to explore it as a research topic? Your insights are spot on though regarding how huge a task this kind of a study would be!

Read the undertone of some of the comments above...leave it to others to do, you're doing it to make money, why is it not okay with some of you to get out there and do it when this research is so desperately needed? Here I am making an effort to learn through the medicinal cannabis community. Maybe if so many people try to block this research, maybe I won't do a peer review study. We'll have to wait and see. In the meantime I will continue applying to universities.
 
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GrowRock

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Try the university of Alberta I know of at least one prof who is looking into canabinoids in the neurology dept. it's just an idea
 
It's an excellent idea man. Is there any chance you can send me a private message with that prof's name? I've already contacted the UofA in their research dept. but no one replied. That's usually what they do if they're not interested in your research. Cheers growrock! May the sunshine be on you til it makes you feel good! :-) One of the artilces I read through was about cannabis oil and neurology. It said that it stopped the destruction of the highways that the neurotransmitters travel on. I've forgotten the name of it which is why I simply call it the highway. Mylenin sheath or something like similar to that? But yeah, the evidence is there too for cannabis oil helping the neurons and the transportation routes through the body. Glad that professor got in to do some research.
 
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itsmehigh

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I know that Kwantlen Polytechnic University here in BC has added Traditional Chinese Medicines to there curriculum. We (as an LP) are working with their Institute of Sustainable Horticulture. A very forward thinking university, might be worth a shot.

Itsme.
 
Fantastic. Yes, by all means. I will look into Kwantlen. That's great that you are working with their sustainable horticulture department.

By all means 'itsme' share your story with us here or tell me your story in a PM. I'm all ears! In your story would you please tell me about the oil usuage and daily dosages? increasing or decreasing amounts etc. Love to hear it. :-)
 
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itsmehigh

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I ain't got no story, sorry. Except that one time at band camp......I'm just a poor cannabis farmer, that's been around the block a few times, that's it.

Itsme.
 
No worries itsme. Anybody with survival stories thanks to cannabis oil...your stories are most welcome here as that motivates me to continue. This kind of study needs to be done as much as possible wherever possible on this planet. That's because when the findings are solid, those researchers can run for government and say well yes, I did do the research and I do know that it helps people and now we're going to be changing things around so people can access their own medicine and grow it instead of always being dependant on the doctor and what they suggest is the only course of action. And of course that's going to upset big pharmy so you can bet they'll try to cause a stink fit when cannabis oil becomes the first treatment for cancer instead of chemo. But to do that we need to have these studies done. The more researchers, the more energy goes into our cause of being able to access our own cannabis medicine in my opinion. That's why I don't want to stop and give up. I just want to keep learning as I do things in this field.
 

leaffan

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No worries itsme. Anybody with survival stories thanks to cannabis oil...your stories are most welcome here as that motivates me to continue. This kind of study needs to be done as much as possible wherever possible on this planet. That's because when the findings are solid, those researchers can run for government and say well yes, I did do the research and I do know that it helps people and now we're going to be changing things around so people can access their own medicine and grow it instead of always being dependant on the doctor and what they suggest is the only course of action. And of course that's going to upset big pharmy so you can bet they'll try to cause a stink fit when cannabis oil becomes the first treatment for cancer instead of chemo. But to do that we need to have these studies done. The more researchers, the more energy goes into our cause of being able to access our own cannabis medicine in my opinion. That's why I don't want to stop and give up. I just want to keep learning as I do things in this field.
Big Pharmy has a huge advantage, government cooperation. Look at the history of Sativex. How this drug from GW got feast tracked, hell rammed through...

"Health Canada has approved Sativex with conditions, under the Notice of Compliance with Conditions (NOC/c) policy. This authorization reflects the promising nature of the clinical evidence to be confirmed with further studies. Products approved under Health Canada's NOC/c policy have demonstrated promising benefit, are of high quality and possess an acceptable safety profile based on a benefit/risk assessment for the approved use.

Health Canada approval was based on the results from a small, four-week clinical trial carried out in Great Britain by GW Pharmaceuticals, the company that developed Sativex. The study involved 66 people with MS at a research centre in Britain. Participants had central neuropathic pain because of MS. Half of the group received Sativex in a spray dispenser and the other half received a sham (placebo) spray in a similar dispenser. "

http://mssociety.ca/en/research/medmmo-marij-sativex-june05.htm

You can expect the same cooperation from the government for all of GW's new products.


This is a good link for studies;
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/study.php
 
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nsbudca

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Let's not recognize cannabis as a legitimate medication...until we turn it into a spray...oh no concentrates or edibles patients of Canada lol...

GW's facility is super impressive, makes any LPS set up look like a joke.
 

spek9

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Join the "Calgary 420 Cannabis Community" on Facebook, and PM Keith Fagin within that group. He may be able to point you in the right direction.

-spek
 
Thanks guys for your comments. I will do that spek9. Thank you. I just wanted to tell the person that suggested I contact kwantlem university regarding a research degree - to their credit they wrote back a very nice email within 24 hours of me sending them a request. But they said they can't help as they don't have the ability to take on PhD students. It's an uphill battle for sure guys! But it has to be done somehow. Otherwise we stay in the same position for decades more. Have a good day! Thank you for all of these suggestions. I am acting on them as you can see!
 
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