howsitgrowin420
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Dude, I have the most hilarious video of you showing up there!
Lollipopping ( Any Scientific Evidence? )
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Yes, there is right and wrong and your cannabis specific foods (and hard head) are the culprits, witness yellowing leaves mid level in the first photo. AND, it's just gonna keep working its way up the plant unless you change your "methods of madness".
I looked at the NPK values of your foods and it confirmed what I suspected and the reason why I asked, not enough N. Of course I got a dodge and then a smart ass challenge. OK....here goes. You're gonna get a taste of good ol fashion Uncle Ben Schooling LOL.Here you are doing the typical RIU finger pointing when you're finger is crooked....pointing at the wrong culprit - light.
0-50-30?????? Are you kidding me. Not to mention the outrageous cost for this stuff,1 lb. for $33 ugggggg. http://www.planetnatural.com/product/beastie-bloomz-soluble-fertilizer/ The high P will also increase your stretch. If you got money to burn how about giving some to charity, like the American Cancer Society?
I can buy a 25 lb. bag of top quality Peters for a bit more than that - $53 shipped. 2 bucks/pound. Here's what you should be using, from start to finish, or Citrus Feed..... and shit can the cannabis specific snake oils. http://www.amazon.com/77770-Petunia-Magnesium-Fertilizer-25-Pound/dp/B002HJGULU/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_1 Great analysis- http://www.jrpeters.com/Products/Jack-s-Professional/Jack-s-FeED/20-3-19-Petunia-FeED_/9749/How-To-Use.html
Might wanna read this, it directly applies to your methods of plant nutrition - https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-never-ending-abuse-of-phosphorous-bloom-foods-to-enhance-flowering.158144/
I'll post some photos of plants with dark green leaves, they got plenty of blood meal even during flowering, which actually increases lower nugget biomass contrary to RIU logic.
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Popcorn for a second harvest:
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Secondary harvest adds up. You lollipoppers are shit outa luck on this one.
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Uncle Ben
Why would you waste time on that 2nd harvest? How much longer did you let that go? In that time I would have new plants going in veg and on their way to flower.
Daggy
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If your serious about your work you lollipop.. Onless you have a way to get some light down there.
If your serious about your work you lollipop.. Onless you have a way to get some light down there.
Silky Shagsalot
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dang bf80, those things look totally stretched...
Uncle Ben
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Definately gives new meaning to the phrase "people of color".
Cannasutraorganics
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32 days in bud. Half way there.
TexasHank
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Yeah, you are wrong..
UB is retired. He has some great projects going on through his retirement, on a very cool farm he built from a piece of land.
I've seen it myself.. so yes, you are totally off on that one.
Why does he come on here and continue to fight with you all? I'm not sure.. he has history in the MJ growing/Forum world and does not want to just walk away from it.. that is how I understand it.
My advice to you would be to just drop the specific subject and pick his brain on subjects that you do not disagree about. The guy is a plant encyclopedia of knowledge and is often willing to share.. I pick his brain often.. you should too.
TexasHank
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Just 5-7 days has done wonders for lower buds on my plants..
I am especially willing to do this when I have other varieties growing along in the same garden.. so i am running the room another week or 2 anyway..
2nd harvest is a great tool in many situations.. definitely.
Alexander Supertramp
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Lack of light has nothing to do with the fluffier buds lower on the plant. It is hormonal distribution that causes this.
Another 5-7 days isn't bad. I was thinking weeks. Id rather just get the popcorn blasted.
Cannasutraorganics
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And the cure for that?
I have my way of getting them bigger. Just wonder if yours is different.
Striking Gold
Member
How do you get the biggest buds without wasting money on snake oils?
Lollipop
Lollipop
Ninjabowler
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But it does have to do with the pale yellowish color and under ripeness when the tops are done. Why else would even ben do a two stage harvest? Not ripe, pale lime color.
Daggy
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That is bull. I have seen my friend put lighting under the canopy and the lower growth that would usually be fluffy popcorn that gets thrown into the trim were fat healthy nugs that made it into the pound. I know the lower growth has older hormones but are you claiming that they dont yield is bull
Alexander Supertramp
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Where did I say they dont yield? And my post is absolutely correct.
All I Do Is Win
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When is the best time to start removing leaves?
Also one more question, do the big fan leaves provide anything better than the smaller ones? Because they seem to block most of the buds and I would rather go for the big fat leaves instead of taking off little tiny ones.
Also one more question, do the big fan leaves provide anything better than the smaller ones? Because they seem to block most of the buds and I would rather go for the big fat leaves instead of taking off little tiny ones.
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70's natureboy
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In the end it all depends on the strain. some strains can make nice sticky tight buds on the lower branches without much light and some plants just make garbage on the lower branches. Another reason I love my sour D. My Jack Herrer's make garbage on the bottom branches so I lollipop them.
All I Do Is Win
New Member
gotcha, is it more sativa or indica or is it just strain specific. I am trying to dwindle down the choices so I don't have to do too much lollipoppin
Uncle Ben
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You're seeing things....you want to see. Grow outdoors and get some real experience. I always do a secondary harvest outdoors. The upper buds will always be more dense and ready before the lower ones. Has nothing to do with light intensity no matter how much you guys want to parrot your misguided forum paradigm - that the direct cause of popcorn buds is due to a lack of light. Some of you numbskulls need to realize that the sugars that are produced by fan leaves located at the top of the plant are translocated throughout, and that includes root production. Anyone heard of a very foreign word called "phloem"? I mean, damn!
Yeah, you'll get some nugs but even with good, direct lighting, lower buds will not produce like the top. The plant is just not designed that way. Also, there's no such thing as "older hormones". The apical dominance thingie switches to the top of whatever plant material is left.
This is the typical profile of plants that have had a primary harvest and been back under intense lighting for at least 2 weeks and are ready for harvest. 1st shot (Jack Herer) is not very good, second (original C99) is clearer and shows brown pistils.
Oh....and do not try this at home. You have to have lower leaves to pull it off, which 90% of you won't.
And "in the end" it all depends on botany - not hearsay, variety, or bro science.
UB
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