Gas prices

Gmack420

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I'm all for reducing carbon footprints...having said that, how would an electric vehicle run at -40, -50....I'm not even sure we have a hybrid up here...seasonal driving would never work unless it was only local and we pay .14 or .16/kWh it's high whatever it is so that would be another factor...
Hybrids work year round here in Winnipeg. And we get that cold. Most of our taxis are prius. I don't know any full electric cars that are being used year round.
 

WHATFG

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I've got to fill up today I sure it's dropped again....this ain't so good for Stephen and company is it? Oh that's right we'll just take it back from the vets.
 

GroErr

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I've got to fill up today I sure it's dropped again....this ain't so good for Stephen and company is it? Oh that's right we'll just take it back from the vets.
I'd rather pay $2/L than support the oil sands, it's the biggest single damage to the environment Canada has ever done, all under Harper's watch and his money hungry oil baron buddies.
 

Gmack420

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I Hate him too. but it's not like the liberals hated all the money they spent from the oil sands when they were in power.
 

GroErr

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I Hate him too. but it's not like the liberals hated all the money they spent from the oil sands when they were in power.
True enough, not like they created the monster, the cons have just fed it to make it an even bigger monster, to the point where it'll be almost impossible to kill it. I have a personal hate-on for harper which tends to make me see red so I try and blame everything I can on him ;)
 

gb123

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I'd rather pay $2/L than support the oil sands, it's the biggest single damage to the environment Canada has ever done, all under Harper's watch and his money hungry oil baron buddies.
the shit goes south to be processed and SOLD BACK TO US AT A MUCH HIGHER COST.... :lol:

You can thank Harpshit for that one. The US wants Harpness to give it up for free and he'll find a way to do it to.
 

Skylor

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My gas power car sits all winter, I don't start it up one time. Last winter I let it sit for 6 full months, just pop the hood open filled the carb with fuel, pour a bit more gas down the throat of the carb, hook the 12 V battery up and cranked her over, fired up in 5 seconds and ran a 100 miles on the old fuel in the gas tank.....try that with an electric car....one would need to charge it up and who said those electric motors never wear out or rust up, maybe no tune up is ever needed but those motors won't last forever.

Electric cars will be common place when we need them, as long as oil is cheap, those electric cars won't become common place. Only a gas power car could sit for 6 months and drive off with the old fuel in its tank
 

Skylor

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Electric isn't feasible right now for most. Electric motors/batteries can't put out the same horsepower as gas combustion, at least not without adding a few hundred pounds worth of batteries. Also the range/charging is a big factor. We're 20 years away yet from viable electric cars.
Thats what was said 20 years ago, ha ha.....they also said back in the 1970's that gas power cars will be history in 20 years, we were to run short of oil in the 1980's....read some old Motor Tend mags from the 70's. some of the things they were saying back then was so dumb....did u know they were first saying air bag cars would let a driver hit a park car on the shoulder of the freeway at 105 km an hour and they would just have minor if any injures, then again they were talking about putting air bags in those big 70's cars what had steel bumpers and no plastic body panels, today cars are built so much cheaper body wise, plastic bumpers would have been laughed out the door, today we snap them up thinking, nah, accidents only happen to other people..besides, the air bags will save us, ha ha
 

Skylor

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I would worry about the replacement costs for the batteries. I have an electric bike I paid $1800 for. I had to replace the batteries after 3 years at $800. The second set lasted a year and a half, so I said fuck it.
I believe it, as the electric motor gets old, it will need more electricity to make the same amount of power. I had a gas power moped, that thing last me for 5 years of teenager abuse and was still running fine when I sold it. I used to have 2 people on it and go flat out at moped speeds all of the time, only thing that would break on me was the headlight, likely from the off road riding I would do with it
 

ttystikk

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Electric isn't feasible right now for most. Electric motors/batteries can't put out the same horsepower as gas combustion, at least not without adding a few hundred pounds worth of batteries. Also the range/charging is a big factor. We're 20 years away yet from viable electric cars.
Again, exactly backwards. There's YouTube video of a Tesla Model S- the four door sedan- handily stomping a new Corvette Stingray off the line every time, and beating it through the quarter once. The other two of the three heads up races at a dragstrip were within tenths of a second...

Whoever told you electric traction was down on power was flat wrong. As for torque, 100% available at zero rpm, that's why TRAIN LOCOMOTIVES work this way.

I'm an engineer and I know plenty more like me. We know about technology and its trends, it's our stock in trade. We're buying electric vehicles now. That's a hint.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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This is what I replaced mine with. 70cc so it's not much bigger than a moped. It's a 1982 so I have collector plates- $58/yr for insurance and about 110 MILES to about $5 worth of premium!
 
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j0yr1d3

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Again, exactly backwards. There's YouTube video of a Tesla Model S- the four door sedan- handily stomping a new Corvette Stingray off the line every time, and beating it through the quarter once. The other two of the three heads up races at a dragstrip were within tenths of a second...

Whoever told you electric traction was down on power was flat wrong. As for torque, 100% available at zero rpm, that's why TRAIN LOCOMOTIVES work this way.

I'm an engineer and I know plenty more like me. We know about technology and its trends, it's our stock in trade. We're buying electric vehicles now. That's a hint.
Torque and horsepower are 2 very different things. Yes electric has the advantage when it comes to torque. A 2014 Corvette has 460 hp, the Tesla only has 416 hp, oh and the Tesla weighs almost 5000 lbs and a corvette is only 3300. Need some more engineering yet eh?
 
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