GG Bastard Series - Colombian Gold

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Does that clawing on GG #1 strike any of you as possibly being nitrogen toxicity?

Not really toxicity yet (they'll get blue/black green when they are at that point) but yes that typically indicates too much N. It looks a lot like how some popular haze strains respond to too much N. By itself, not a biggie.

The HPS light can be very misleading, not just on photos. I occasionally cut off a leaflet and hold it in day light to see how dark green it really is.

 

[polo the don]

Not really toxicity yet (they'll get blue/black green when they are at that point) but yes that typically indicates too much N. It looks a lot like how some popular haze strains respond to too much N. By itself, not a biggie.

The HPS light can be very misleading, not just on photos. I occasionally cut off a leaflet and hold it in day light to see how dark green it really is.

I completely and totally agree with every single word of that post.
My Tijuana original haze does that exact same thing with too much N, finicky ass bitch.

 

[WHODAT@THADOR]

Your girl's look awesome bro!! I was skimming through did you ever solve that mystery black spot?...I had a couple stink bugs that made there way in on my last run and the same issue removed em and no more issue same exact symptom's gnawing on leaves and black spottage like that they were big enough to find and when I removed them all was well. Was just curious?

 

[ayr0n]

Your girl's look awesome bro!! I was skimming through did you ever solve that mystery black spot?...I had a couple stink bugs that made there way in on my last run and the same issue removed em and no more issue same exact symptom's gnawing on leaves and black spottage like that they were big enough to find and when I removed them all was well. Was just curious?

Thanks bro - Honestly I never quite figured out what that was lol. I drenched everything in neem oil and it seemed to go away so I'm just gonna keep my fingers crossed

 

[ayr0n]

Not really toxicity yet (they'll get blue/black green when they are at that point) but yes that typically indicates too much N. It looks a lot like how some popular haze strains respond to too much N. By itself, not a biggie.

The HPS light can be very misleading, not just on photos. I occasionally cut off a leaflet and hold it in day light to see how dark green it really is.

I completely and totally agree with every single word of that post.
My Tijuana original haze does that exact same thing with too much N, finicky ass bitch.

Damn that's probably what it is then. Not sure how to reduce the N in my soil lol. They haven't been fed any nutes really...little silica blast in early veg and the one compost tea yesterday... Probably just stick with water for a while and hope it goes away? :X

 

[ayr0n]

The only thing I can think of is to attempt and change the pH of the soil so N availability is reduced? But that seems a little out of my scope of expertise and possibly counterproductive lmao. I read you can lay mulch over the top of soil to help draw out some N but i have no idea why that works or if it really does

 

[GroErr]

Damn that's probably what it is then. Not sure how to reduce the N in my soil lol. They haven't been fed any nutes really...little silica blast in early veg and the one compost tea yesterday... Probably just stick with water for a while and hope it goes away? :X

That's a good plan Ayr0n, haven't had N problems much but had one JTR early on in the current pheno that did something similar. I don't "flush" but I just gave it a couple of water-only decent waterings with good run-off and it was fine. Then went back to normal scheduled feeds.

 

[ayr0n]

The only thing I can think of is to attempt and change the pH of the soil so N availability is reduced? But that seems a little out of my scope of expertise and possibly counterproductive lmao. I read you can lay mulch over the top of soil to help draw out some N but i have no idea why that works or if it really does

scratch that idea - there's no pH sweet spot where N is less available and the other nutes still are readily available. Guess the waiting game is the plan

 

[ayr0n]

I completely and totally agree with every single word of that post.
My Tijuana original haze does that exact same thing with too much N, finicky ass bitch.

What kinda flowering period does that haze strain run? Looong?

 

[polo the don]

What kinda flowering period does that haze strain run? Looong?

Long ain't the word fir it!!!
15 weeks from the flip, 105 days if 12/12 with a shitty yield but the high is AMAZING! This has to be the hardest plant in the world to grow. I'm a pretty experienced grower and it took me about 6 or so runs with it to finally get it just right. She gets 1ml of foliage pro and pro-tekt (silica 0-0-3) from dyna-gro, 3.75ml magical (cal-mag) by technaflora, and 1oz maxi-crop liquid seaweed per gallon, start to finish. pH to 6.0. If I deviate from that recipie she freaks out. If I flush her she foxtails like crazy. This bitch is a trip. I wouldn't recommend it to an inexperienced grower or smoker. I don't sell any of it. If I did I'd have to charge $200 a gram, lolol. I smoke it every morning with my coffee and go for a run if my back is ok, if it's not I'm so wired up I get started on some project in a big hurry. I've smoked it with a few people through the years and every time they start tripping and accuse me of lacing it with meth or something, it's just that speedy.

 

[ayr0n]

Long ain't the word fir it!!!
15 weeks from the flip, 105 days if 12/12 with a shitty yield but the high is AMAZING! This has to be the hardest plant in the world to grow. I'm a pretty experienced grower and it took me about 6 or so runs with it to finally get it just right. She gets 1ml of foliage pro and pro-tekt (silica 0-0-3) from dyna-gro, 3.75ml magical (cal-mag) by technaflora, and 1oz maxi-crop liquid seaweed per gallon, start to finish. pH to 6.0. If I deviate from that recipie she freaks out. If I flush her she foxtails like crazy. This bitch is a trip. I wouldn't recommend it to an inexperienced grower or smoker. I don't sell any of it. If I did I'd have to charge $200 a gram, lolol. I smoke it every morning with my coffee and go for a run if my back is ok, if it's not I'm so wired up I get started on some project in a big hurry. I've smoked it with a few people through the years and every time they start tripping and accuse me of lacing it with meth or something, it's just that speedy.

Sounds like a helluva strain. It must be a damn good high if you keep it in your garden even though it yields on the lower end.
Daaamn that's the kind of smoke I need for real. All of my autos put me in zombie mode, gotta get something racier in these jars so I can actually get some Shit done throughout the day lol. Hoping these more sat dominant girls do the trick.


Do you think silica blast is comparable to protekt?

 

[polo the don]

Sounds like a helluva strain. It must be a damn good high if you keep it in your garden even though it yields on the lower end.
Daaamn that's the kind of smoke I need for real. All of my autos put me in zombie mode, gotta get something racier in these jars so I can actually get some Shit done throughout the day lol. Hoping these more sat dominant girls do the trick.


Do you think silica blast is comparable to protekt?

It really is a hell of a strain. You should get something speedy from the girls you have in your garden. I hope you do and if not I have your address.
I've never looked at silica blast but they are probably pretty close to the same thing, a silica additive.

 

[ayr0n]

It really is a hell of a strain. You should get something speedy from the girls you have in your garden. I hope you do and if not I have your address.
I've never looked at silica blast but they are probably pretty close to the same thing, a silica additive.

You're too kind bro - I guess it's true what they say about southern hospitality? I think the closer you get to Canada the meaner people get ( @GroErr ) jk jk but really you're okay in my book @polo the don . Haven't figured out how yet but one day I'ma pay you back for everything you've helped me with / done for me ...bet

 

[GroErr]

You're too kind bro - I guess it's true what they say about southern hospitality? I think the closer you get to Canada the meaner people get ( @GroErr ) jk jk but really you're okay in my book @polo the don . Haven't figured out how yet but one day I'ma pay you back for everything you've helped me with / done for me ...bet

Ha, I do agree on the southern hospitality but I think it resets at the border - lol Our "southern hospitality" is on the East coast, Neufies are the most hospitable, as you move East Quebecers are the crankiest and always trying to separate from the rest of us (and everyone else it seems - must be the French thing - lol). Rest of the country's somewhere in between

 

[polo the don]

You're too kind bro - I guess it's true what they say about southern hospitality? I think the closer you get to Canada the meaner people get ( @GroErr ) jk jk but really you're okay in my book @polo the don . Haven't figured out how yet but one day I'ma pay you back for everything you've helped me with / done for me ...bet

Just seeing you make it to harvest was payment enough.

 

[st0wandgrow]

I didn't read all of the responses, so I apologize if this was mentioned already....

Sounds like you're having trouble with the medium drying out too quick, and concerned with nutrient availability? Do you have access to worm castings or compost? If so, you could lay down some dry organic amendments.. I go with about a 1/2 cup per cf of soil. Scratch that in a bit, and then cover with a layer of worm castings/compost. You can then either plant a cover crop (preferably a nitrogen fixing plant like clover or legumes) or use a mulch like wood chips, discarded marijuana fan leaves, hay, etc. The microbes in the compost will mineralize the organic amendments over a period of time giving you a nice slow release of nutrients, and the cover crop/mulch will help retain moisture in your medium.

If you need a quick fix you can bubble a nutrient tea, or pick up a little bottle of something at the hydro shop. Here in Michigan we have a local company called Organically Done that has some nice products. I've used their fish hydrolysate

http://www.organicallydone.com/

.

 

[st0wandgrow]

I used clover, vetch, and wheat grass as a cover crop in this container. Old plant chopped, new clone plugged right back in there

 

[polo the don]

Ha, I do agree on the southern hospitality but I think it resets at the border - lol Our "southern hospitality" is on the East coast, Neufies are the most hospitable, as you move East Quebecers are the crankiest and always trying to separate from the rest of us (and everyone else it seems - must be the French thing - lol). Rest of the country's somewhere in between

I don't know where Ontario falls in all that but your alright by me and "me" is all I'm worried about, lol

 

[st0wandgrow]

Ha, I do agree on the southern hospitality but I think it resets at the border - lol Our "southern hospitality" is on the East coast, Neufies are the most hospitable, as you move East Quebecers are the crankiest and always trying to separate from the rest of us (and everyone else it seems - must be the French thing - lol). Rest of the country's somewhere in between

That's a good summary! lol

Neufies are great. They kinda talk like pirates though.

 

[ayr0n]

I didn't read all of the responses, so I apologize if this was mentioned already....

Sounds like you're having trouble with the medium drying out too quick, and concerned with nutrient availability? Do you have access to worm castings or compost? If so, you could lay down some dry organic amendments.. I go with about a 1/2 cup per cf of soil. Scratch that in a bit, and then cover with a layer of worm castings/compost. You can then either plant a cover crop (preferably a nitrogen fixing plant like clover or legumes) or use a mulch like wood chips, discarded marijuana fan leaves, hay, etc. The microbes in the compost will mineralize the organic amendments over a period of time giving you a nice slow release of nutrients, and the cover crop/mulch will help retain moisture in your medium.

If you need a quick fix you can bubble a nutrient tea, or pick up a little bottle of something at the hydro shop. Here in Michigan we have a local company called Organically Done that has some nice products. I've used their fish hydrolysate

http://www.organicallydone.com/

.

Hey sto glad you stopped in here - thanks for all the tips I'll def keep them in mind. So the cover crops are beneficial to the soil web n don't compete with your plants? Also do you worry at all about the previous plants' roots rotting n affecting the new clone or is there some preventative step you've taken in that regard? Sorry if any of this is like abc s to you guys, every time I think I know a thing or 2 about growing I come on here and realize how much of a novice I really am lol.


Oh and you mentioned some dry organic amendments - is there anything in particular that you prefer to amend with that way? I don't know what I'm doing so I've been buying premixed dry organic amendments and using them to make teas, but with no real methodology..kinda just guessing and winging it