purplelicious
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Ya I have many other reasons that is actually the least of them I'm just high all the time and love talking shit and ruffling feathers around here lmao.
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Amos Otis
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purplelicious
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You got all upset that i said dwc is fail lol great stuff!
purplelicious
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http://www.harborsidehealthcenter.com/ http://riverrockcolorado.com/ http://www.cannablissandco.com/ http://mhmcdenver.com/ I have been to ones in Denver and Portland I can say Denver has better dispensaries over all but it's all relative. Good medicine is just hard to find and if you are picky you might go to 100 before you find one you really like. I have genetics from harborside and they are always good. I have genetics from cannabliss and they rock. Anyway yes we have good dispensaries! Just got Orange Crush and Oregon Pineapple the other day. I just want a nice selection in my library for personal and for patients. We need to keep the growing in our community and then there is no way we will have to worry about large corporations taking over and growing massive amounts of commercial weed full of chemicals. If they do than it will have it's place, like to replace cigarettes altogether. That's a good idea.. tabaco companies should have to grow and sell weed because it is better for you than cigarettes and cigarettes can be illegal and go into prohibition!
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Amos Otis
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Yeah.......all upset. You know me so well.
Dude...you're new here, or a reincarnation. Either way, your B- level of trolling has been done often, and just as poorly many times before.
But you're impressed with yourself...so there's that....
greenghost420
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maybe using mg and S make the plant metabolize stored nutes?
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greenghost420
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have you smoked tomatos or carrots? how do you know those stored nutes arent harsh instead of nutritious lol
purplelicious
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If your water has salt in it maybe you have high cholesterol as well. Better double check your water and your blood pressure!
applepoop1984
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heh... most of the things a select group of morons were arguing with me in my thread from last year, are repeating said things verbatim in the current thread. good to see that though, in my thread for new growers I listed foliar feeding an flushing as important, last year mr Estevez was vehement that plants do not uptake nutrients and undesirable elements into the buds ie cadmium arsenic so needless to say im surprised that he had an about face on his way of thinking, last year he said something along the lines of "plants go and uptake some heavymetals yeah ok!!" than posted some internet meme to really drive his point home etc... all kidding aside purplicious, a flush is necessary, studies have shown that just about every type of fertilizer, including organic, have levels of cadmium , as well as just about every type of soil, including fox farms. it has been proven that flushing alone with 2 times the volume of the soil container can reduce 50% of cadmium from soils. recent anti pot studies have shown that there is almost 5 times the cadmiums in marijuana smoke as is in cigarette smoke. the way I remove cadmium from my grows is hitting ti from all angles:
1 before the grow starts take all the soil you are going to use in the pots and flush them individually before planting seeds, 2 times the volume of said pots
2 while using organic or inorganic, aerate the water youre going to use for fertilizing but take a stocking and fill it with perlite or coco and tie of the end, let it sit in your aerating fertilizer water( with an aquarium pump and airstont) over night, studies have shown this can remove 60-70% of heavy metals from the fertilizer
3 flush once a month with aerated water but make sure the drain pan is free of water to promote faster drying, this also has the side effect of increasing growth as is seen in nature after heavy rains.
4 use a reverse osmosis filter or zero water filter, the ph will go down to 5.0-5.9 range but tds will be guaranteed in the 0-10 ppm range, which wil eliminate the salinity problem from chemically treated tap water. use this water for flushing watering and feeding
im researching several other methods for removing heavy metals from soil and fertilizer via my pub med account
1 before the grow starts take all the soil you are going to use in the pots and flush them individually before planting seeds, 2 times the volume of said pots
2 while using organic or inorganic, aerate the water youre going to use for fertilizing but take a stocking and fill it with perlite or coco and tie of the end, let it sit in your aerating fertilizer water( with an aquarium pump and airstont) over night, studies have shown this can remove 60-70% of heavy metals from the fertilizer
3 flush once a month with aerated water but make sure the drain pan is free of water to promote faster drying, this also has the side effect of increasing growth as is seen in nature after heavy rains.
4 use a reverse osmosis filter or zero water filter, the ph will go down to 5.0-5.9 range but tds will be guaranteed in the 0-10 ppm range, which wil eliminate the salinity problem from chemically treated tap water. use this water for flushing watering and feeding
im researching several other methods for removing heavy metals from soil and fertilizer via my pub med account
purplelicious
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Anyone want to check out a really great veganic grow? I just picked up og tea veganic special sauce,mykos and azos for my transplant after I looked at this guy hash zeppelins grow. My roots are white and look good but dam these look amazing and the plants look perfect. My little baby mendo montage f2 will be very happy with this mix. Here is the link https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=295694
purplelicious
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I flush very thoroughly and religiously. I feed half strength nutrients for a week then just water for another week minimum. I use rockwool in pots just like you would use soil. I get a big bale of it and mix it with compost tea so it is like a soupy slushy mixture then I can slop it in my pots plop a baby in and feed it whatever I want. I can also remove all the nutrients from my rockwool at anytime by flushing. I love inert growing mediums that are actually inert. People say that coco is inert but I have some very different personal knowledge that says it is full of salts! So the coconuts are harvested from the ocean. I have done tests on coco. There is some inland coco that is fairly salt free but still like 500ppms of salt is stupid and that is the best coco I could find. The normal shit all you people use is like 1200 sometime 1600 ppms right out of the bag!
purplelicious
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Also I am flushing with kangen filtered water for the last week. This is some serious filtered water. http://www.usakangenwater.com/ also I plan on getting this living water filter https://www.alivewater.com/. R/O is crap compared to these two together! What do you think?
applepoop1984
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had no idea coco was salty, then I would amend that to make only use of super coarse perlite in the stocking, coco does remove cadmium but adding of salt would be counteractive. I also prefer inert grow mediums, my favorite is super coarse perlite in a hempy bucket with a high power 50 lpm air pump and bubble discs in the water. that is advice mostly for soil grows but there is a material data safety sheet that lists all fertilizers and there heavy metal content and I found it alarming that almost all of them organic and inorganic contained levels of cadmium that could be considered high. im surprised that coco is so high but while I have have never used it for growing or to leech cadmium from fertilizer im surprised people can grow with it seeing as it has so much salt. at 1200 ppm it just amazes me that most people dotn have a problem with it. I haven't tried rockwool slush do you reuse it afterwards? that's the one thing I like about super coarse perlite, if im gentle with it it can be reused indefinitely.
applepoop1984
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im nto sold on the kangan water as it has various minerals in it according to their website, the alivewater looks intriguing to say the least, as long as the tds is low id be on board seeing as they say there is increased oxygen content . for now an aerator and low tds water is good enough but the alive water system looks good. it looks like it is used in tandem with other water treatment systems so you'd need a reverse osmosis system as well since it says to install it after the r/o system.
purplelicious
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Yes I reuse it now, I used to throw it away. You can pull out the root ball and break it up soak it in some hygrozyme solution for a week to break down the rest of the dead root matter and your plants can then feed on themselves which they love to do. You lose a small amount but most of it is recycled. Works well for me been doing it for over two years. I am switching to fabric pots and flood tables soon though. same concept but I will be flooding the whole table with fresh nutes with every watering then drain that to waste. I thought about putting an air stone at the bottom of each pot just under the rockwool so when they are soaking they get a super o2 boost. I'm not sure exactly what is in the coco I just know it is not inert nor is it low ppm by any standard or stretch of the imagination.
purplelicious
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Kangen has its own filtration no r/o needed but I get it from my moms house and I have to fill up 5 gallon jugs so it is a pain but I love to flush and only need like 4 of them to get my room done. alivewater is something I have been reading up on and plan on getting it. They have a few models. I might just try this one
It just goes inline on your pipe.
purplelicious
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Take some water and a handful sample of your coco medium and mix it together then run it through a coffee filter and test the water. Every time I have done this I get results saying there is something in the coco at 800-1600 ppm. One brand I found had like 350 ppm and they were inland coconut husk that had never been in the ocean. The theory I have is the coco harvested from the ocean is loaded with salts that they can't and don't leech out in their so called cleaning and buffering process. All these coco processors are trying to get salts out of the coco and they tell you that right on the bag. So lets grow with something that has a shit ton of salt? NO fucking thanks assholes! You want to know the ppm of my rockwool when I flush water through it? The same as the water I flushed through it!
chuck estevez
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you should read this mr. heavy metal
http://pubs.usgs.gov/bul/1314g/report.pdf
good luck flushing out all that cadmium,lmfao
chuck estevez
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Cadmium is readily absorbed by soil-rooted plants from solutions
of cadmium compounds applied to the soil. Autoradiographic
studies by Gordee, Porter, and Langston (1960) indicated that
exposure of peppermint (Mentha piperita L.) plants to radioactive
cadmium in soil resulted in the uptake of the element after
24 hours and in its gradual movement through the vascular system
to all parts of the plant, with the greatest accumulation occurring
in the lower leaves. They reported that cadmium was not
eliminated by the plant following leaching of the soil.
In experiments with radish (Raphanus sativus L.) designed to
test the possibility of preventing or impeding cadmium accumulation
in food plants by the interactive effect of zinc, Lagerwerff
and Biersdorf (1972) combined 2, 20, and 100 ppb (parts per billion)
cadmium and 20, 100, and 400 ppb zinc in culture solutions.
At the lowest concentration of cadmium, increasing the concentrations
of zinc suppressed cadmium uptake; but at the 100-ppb level
of cadmium, increasing amounts of zinc increased cadmium uptake.
The great reduction in crop yield caused by levels of zinc
that were effective in suppressing cadmium absorption, together
with the failure of zinc to inhibit cadmium uptake at high levels
of both elements, limits the practical possibilities of reducing cadmium
levels in plants by applying zinc to the soil.
Dr. W. H. Alloway, of the U.S. Plant, Soil, and Nut
of cadmium compounds applied to the soil. Autoradiographic
studies by Gordee, Porter, and Langston (1960) indicated that
exposure of peppermint (Mentha piperita L.) plants to radioactive
cadmium in soil resulted in the uptake of the element after
24 hours and in its gradual movement through the vascular system
to all parts of the plant, with the greatest accumulation occurring
in the lower leaves. They reported that cadmium was not
eliminated by the plant following leaching of the soil.
In experiments with radish (Raphanus sativus L.) designed to
test the possibility of preventing or impeding cadmium accumulation
in food plants by the interactive effect of zinc, Lagerwerff
and Biersdorf (1972) combined 2, 20, and 100 ppb (parts per billion)
cadmium and 20, 100, and 400 ppb zinc in culture solutions.
At the lowest concentration of cadmium, increasing the concentrations
of zinc suppressed cadmium uptake; but at the 100-ppb level
of cadmium, increasing amounts of zinc increased cadmium uptake.
The great reduction in crop yield caused by levels of zinc
that were effective in suppressing cadmium absorption, together
with the failure of zinc to inhibit cadmium uptake at high levels
of both elements, limits the practical possibilities of reducing cadmium
levels in plants by applying zinc to the soil.
Dr. W. H. Alloway, of the U.S. Plant, Soil, and Nut
littlegiant
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Dude! You are a trip.. I do DWC and for everyone's info, I left for a vacation last year and before I left I checked the grow tent and my dumb ass accidently turned off my air pumps. When I returned 4 days later I noticed that just the very top of my plants were slightly bent over. Then I noticed my dumb ass turned the pumps off so I plugged them back in and an hour later they were normal again. I guess they still had plenty of oxygen to survive. Just sayin!
I have had 1 pump fail and had a few air stones clog up. but a video camera? That's funny..
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