Nutes.... Needing suggestions

[Carolina Dream'n]

From the sounds if that N.U.T.S stuff it sounds like it's a silica supplement.
Does it raise your ph when you add to your res?

 

[TheChemist77]

ALRIGHT, ill put 2 five gallon dwc buckets aside for testing,,,they can sit next to my 30 plant table just for kicks.lol..just finished building my new table check it out on my journal if u want.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/chemist77-pic-journal.850252/page-4#post-11227466

 

[TheChemist77]

no, ive used silica that raises ur ph the humic or fulvic acids seem to keep ur ph stabilized ..so if u set it at 5.7 it stays there for up to 2 weeks..

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

So I just read on that NUTS stuff. Scientifically speaking, every single point they make is incorrect.
Idk man, you choose. Science tells me no, but you saying steady ph tells me yea.btw though, you want your ph to swing from 5.5 to 6.2. Allows for different nutrients to be absorbed at different rates. A deadlocked ph isn't quite what your looking for.
Could they be lying to you? Label laws on fulvic acid point towards yes.

 

[TheChemist77]

So I just read on that NUTS stuff. Scientifically speaking, every single point they make is incorrect.
Idk man, you choose. Science tells me no, but you saying steady ph tells me yea.btw though, you want your ph to swing from 5.5 to 6.2. Allows for different nutrients to be absorbed at different rates. A deadlocked ph isn't quite what your looking for.
Could they be lying to you? Label laws on fulvic acid point towards yes.

LABLE LAWS. LOL thats a joke here, like on a jar it sais spices, that could mean anything including msg, natural flavors wtf is that? sugar isnt even sugar anymore its anything from aspartamine which can kill you to cornstarch, which is only ok in moderation, yet everything has it in it so there is no moderation just kill me already!! gotto go low battery catch u later

 

[TheChemist77]

So I just read on that NUTS stuff. Scientifically speaking, every single point they make is incorrect.
Idk man, you choose. Science tells me no, but you saying steady ph tells me yea.btw though, you want your ph to swing from 5.5 to 6.2. Allows for different nutrients to be absorbed at different rates. A deadlocked ph isn't quite what your looking for.
Could they be lying to you? Label laws on fulvic acid point towards yes.

so what is ur take on fulvic or humic acids? just for soil?,,just read on my mad farmers double down (ph down) bottle last night, says use to lower ph, and for a stable ph add mad farmers N.U.T.S., AND I MUST SAY IT WORKS IF I USE THEM MY PH STAYS STEADY..I do like ur point that a ph fluctuation does help take up nutrients though..maybe ill get rid of the NUTS, and see how my ph varies w/out it..last time i wasnt using the nuts was at another house and my ph was going from 5.7 to 6.2 overnight, but i was using the gh nova at that time,in chicago i loved the nova, ph was perfect and plants did great till i moved here..switched to maxi when i moved because the maxi works better w my water here..i still have 4 bottles of nova unused..illl do a run w/ maxi, then nova w/ the water here to see witch one keeps a steady ph w/out the nuts.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Yes humic and fulvic acid are just for soil.
Then again about every hydro line has a humic additive.
My education/experiments tells me not to use it hydro.

 

[TheChemist77]

also if you can check out grotek's carbo blast and tell me what u think of it for hydro? i bought a jar its a powder and havnt used it yet..but back when i did side by sides in chicago i noticed w/ the plantlife 2 part it had a aditive called carbo somthing and when i used it in flower it increased bud size..so i wanted to try and use a carbo aditive w my gh maxi just to see if it helps..

 

[TheChemist77]

good to see ur on here now!

 

[TheChemist77]

sorry its carbo max doesnt say on the jar what its made from, but amazon sais simple sugars but that could be anything?

 

[TheChemist77]

Yes humic and fulvic acid are just for soil.
Then again about every hydro line has a humic additive.
My education/experiments tells me not to use it hydro.

you in soil or hydro? i used to grow in burlap bags/soil mix on a flood n drain but switched to rock wool and hydro because it was alot easier and yields were about the same...did u check out my journal? i just rebuilt my system and have pics of the old and new systems up. just started a new run last week with 7 diferent strains

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

The carob max stuff looks good. It's cellulose-dextrose. Just a simple carb that cells use for secondary source of energy. It's one of the main products of photosynthesis and is a catalyst for cellular respiration.
The cellulose is just a by product of the dehydration of the glucose, which results in cellulose and dextrose. (The process it takes to get dextrose)

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

you in soil or hydro? i used to grow in burlap bags/soil mix on a flood n drain but switched to rock wool and hydro because it was alot easier and yields were about the same...did u check out my journal? i just rebuilt my system and have pics of the old and new systems up. just started a new run last week with 7 diferent strains

I'm majority in hydro. I have a small 1800w soil garden.

 

[TheChemist77]

ill try adding it to my res this run, i dont start my bloom nutrients till 3rd week of flower and they are only a week in now

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

ill try adding it to my res this run, i dont start my bloom nutrients till 3rd week of flower and they are only a week in now

I've not heard of someone running veg nutrients that long into flower. You should have very predominant bud sites by the 3rd week of flower. Your plants need the extra PK. I would be using ur maxi grow in veg, half maxi grow half maxi bloom day 1 flower. Switch to 100% maxi bloom day 7. Also start using liquid Koolbloom day 7. Use the liquid Koolbloom until the last 2 weeks before flush, then switch to dry Koolbloom for 2 weeks. Flush for a week. Done.

 

[TheChemist77]

I'm majority in hydro. I have a small 1800w soil garden.

small 1800 watt soil, wow! my bloom room is 1200 watts of hps, my veg is 2 400 watt mh, and i thought my electric bills were high!

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

Don't forgot to dissolve all powders in hot water before dumping into Rez.

 

[TheChemist77]

I've not heard of someone running veg nutrients that long into flower. You should have very predominant bud sites by the 3rd week of flower. Your plants need the extra PK. I would be using ur maxi grow in veg, half maxi grow half maxi bloom day 1 flower. Switch to 100% maxi bloom day 7. Also start using liquid Koolbloom day 7. Use the liquid Koolbloom until the last 2 weeks before flush, then switch to dry Koolbloom for 2 weeks. Flush for a week. Done.

i was doing that for years but was told on here that i should stick w/ grow till week 3 this is my first run trying it like this..i stopped using the liquid koolbloom a wile back, but use the powder the last 2 weeks

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

small 1800 watt soil, wow! my bloom room is 1200 watts of hps, my veg is 2 400 watt mh, and i thought my electric bills were high!

3600w spot- 250 a month
1800w spot- 180 a month. (Someone lives there)
14,400w spot- 1200 a month.

 

[Carolina Dream'n]

i was doing that for years but was told on here that i should stick w/ grow till week 3 this is my first run trying it like this..i stopped using the liquid koolbloom a wile back, but use the powder the last 2 weeks

Let me know how it works for you. If you dont have bud sites by day 14 I'd switch to the bloom to be able to save some nugs.