Yields when starting seed outside

[gilbsy123]

I'm wondering what type of yields people are getting when putting seeds in the ground, or pots. What dates are you putting them out?

March, April or May? I'm in San diego and I am wondering when I can plant seeds and not get any re-veg, or if the days ever get long enough to have any vegetative growth.

Any tips on maximizing yields, as far as planting times would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

-G

 

[redeyedfrog]

Your always going to get a bigger yield from the ground.
I use pots out of necessity, but I'd love to use the earth as my pot. I would start indoors March and plant mid to late April. There are other guys here from Cali, I'm from Australia but I just reversed the calendar. I pop my seeds indoor early September, grow indoors until last week October and plant outdoors. Flower in late jan early feb.
If your going to grow in pots use the biggest ones that are practical.
If you want bigger yields get on a good feed schedule and top your plants or fim or lst.

 

[gilbsy123]

Your always going to get a bigger yield from the ground.
I use pots out of necessity, but I'd love to use the earth as my pot. I would start indoors March and plant mid to late April. There are other guys here from Cali, I'm from Australia but I just reversed the calendar. I pop my seeds indoor early September, grow indoors until last week October and plant outdoors. Flower in late jan early feb.
If your going to grow in pots use the biggest ones that are practical.
If you want bigger yields get on a good feed schedule and top your plants or fim or lst.

Thanks for the reply.

Most people, it seems, start seeds indoors and then transplant in the spring. I am wondering if there are people yielding 10 lbs. a plant when direct sowing outdoors or if there is a substantial veg time indoors first.

I put out a small seedling in mid dec and it is about ready now. It is still tiny but it is ready. I am also using pots, so they can be moved to a less open place when guest come over.

I've looked at both the sunrise to sunset charts and the civil twilight charts for my area and the longest day is 15 hours and 17 minutes when considering twilight. Just rise to set the longest day is only 14h 19m.

I'd like to know if there will be enough veg time to sow a seed outdoors and get a high yield, of course in great organic soil.

LST, topping or FIMing would work if they have enough veg time but I'm not too sure when you'd reach the point of diminishing returns if there is little to no veg time.

 

[Bootheel Grower]

I start my seeds usually the end of march and veg them till they are around 2.5 to 3 ft tall. I put them outside around the end of May in 100 gal Potts. Weight depends on strain. But I avg almost 2lbs per plant

 

[Bootheel Grower]

To get those big 10 pounder's those boys are digging big pitts and back filling with a high amended soil. Or you can get some of those 400 gal spring pots

 

[calicocalyx]

I've gotten 3 pounds in 200 gallons, 7pounders in 300 gallons, and just shy of 10 pounds in 400 gallons. Starting inside helps alot but only if they don't get rootbound. 2 months of veg inside, then another 2.5 months veg outside.

 

[TWS]

I get 2 pounds out of a 15 gallon bucket putting a 12" clone out in the end of may . I had one do 3 but it was a 35 gal pot. You guys are working to hard . LOL.

 

[calicocalyx]

living in a temperate rainforest provides.....challenges.

 

[Surfingbird831]

I've gotten 3 pounds in 200 gallons, 7pounders in 300 gallons, and just shy of 10 pounds in 400 gallons. Starting inside helps alot but only if they don't get rootbound. 2 months of veg inside, then another 2.5 months veg outside.

I've got a bunch of 65 gal geopots do you think I could get 3lbs off each ? I've been vegging my clones since mid January and they are about 2 feet right now, how big do you think they will get by July? Thanks for your info

 

[rsbigdaddy]

I get 2 pounds out of a 15 gallon bucket putting a 12" clone out in the end of may . I had one do 3 but it was a 35 gal pot. You guys are working to hard . LOL.

I have got 7 0ff 65 gallon smart pots

 

[Surfingbird831]

I have got 7 0ff 65 gallon smart pots

Wow that's what I like to hear... How long did you veg for and did you use Tomato cages or anything like that?

 

[calicocalyx]

Where i live the summer sun isn't really out until mid july and rains starting coming back around third week of september, and we have lots of cool wet nights. So many variables, a 3 pound plant can be 5ft by 5ft. if not bigger. Way too many variables to get those plants. good genetics and good climate is only a start.

 

[gilbsy123]

To get those big 10 pounder's those boys are digging big pitts and back filling with a high amended soil. Or you can get some of those 400 gal spring pots

In those pits, are they putting a vegged plant or sowing a seed? Does this only happen in northern Cali, or places like that, where the days are long in the summer so the plant has a long veg outdoors?

I know there are tons of variables about soil, weather and pests... But will latitude 32 have a veg stage for seeds to grow massive if they are directly sown?

 

[rsbigdaddy]

Wow that's what I like to hear... How long did you veg for and did you use Tomato cages or anything like that?

I start theme in late April use sticks and trellis

 

[Bootheel Grower]

In those pits, are they putting a vegged plant or sowing a seed? Does this only happen in northern Cali, or places like that, where the days are long in the summer so the plant has a long veg outdoors?

I know there are tons of variables about soil, weather and pests... But will latitude 32 have a veg stage for seeds to grow massive if they are directly sown?

 

[Bootheel Grower]

They are starting vegged plants... No you can do it in the midwest too

 

[ruby fruit]

10lbs ?shit man you are aiming to high if you are asking questions like this .....
Ive seen the best growers on here score 6-8 lbs a plant and we are talking couple months veg indoors then couple months veg outdoors extra lighting supplements if needed when outdoor and 200-400 gallon faric pots.
Thats before they do their proven strains that yield big with quality.
There are some exceptions and standouts to the 1plb plus gang..
If i was you i would aim to make sure to fire off between 3-5 lb plants before making the trek over to the dark side into the 10 plus lb group...they the big boys with machinery,dollars to invest and property.

 

[Bootheel Grower]

They are starting vegged plants... No you can do it in the midwest too

No... You wont be able to just sew a seed and get a plant like that.. You have to have a extra long veg time.. And you have to do alot of lst to shape it

 

[gilbsy123]

10lbs ?shit man you are aiming to high if you are asking questions like this .....
Ive seen the best growers on here score 6-8 lbs a plant and we are talking couple months veg indoors then couple months veg outdoors extra lighting supplements if needed when outdoor and 200-400 gallon faric pots.
Thats before they do their proven strains that yield big with quality.
There are some exceptions and standouts to the 1plb plus gang..
If i was you i would aim to make sure to fire off between 3-5 lb plants before making the trek over to the dark side into the 10 plus lb group...they the big boys with machinery,dollars to invest and property.

Obviously I'm new to outdoor. 10lbs. was just a number to make a point. You and lots of others have answered my question satisfactorily.

Long veg is necessary to produce huge poundage with a single "tree". Sow many seeds and may be able to match the poundage without a long veg is what I've gathered from y'all. Thanks!

 

[calicocalyx]

One thing to consider is that your seedlings are gonna be delicate and vulnerable outside, so plan on losing some to nature. Plant more than you think you'd need. Hell, even in my veggie garden I prefer to transplant when I can to ensure that they make it, think hard rains, rodents, birds, love nice little seeds and seedlings and can destroy a patch in a night.