Public Schools

[Rob Roy]

about the only places you can teach without one are....private schools!

lol.

When you used the word "teach" it would have been more appropriate if you had said "indoctrinate".

Anyone with knowledge can teach another person in a given realm.

Indoctrinating however, is "teaching" absent the students free will being involved. In other words the payment is forcefully extracted and the students are in some sense a captive.

You can distract from the points I made above, but you can't refute them. Know why? Cuz they're true.

 

[Rob Roy]

Wow so you won't answer a simple question that was posed to you first. I think I know why you refuse to answer, but let us try once more.
Do you believe you are forced to stop at a red light or do you stop at a red light because you know it is the best thing to do

If a person doesn't stop at a red light is there a possibility of force being applied to him? Why yes there is. Also, I am not in favor of stupid driving. You also appear to be ignoring the fact that the person driving was forced to use a vehicle approved by your government and are also forced to have some kind of metal tag on their vehicle ....I could go on.

Back to my question....Tell me what you know of the origin of Public Schools in the USA? Where it came from? Scared ?

 

[londonfog]

If a person doesn't stop at a red light is there a possibility of force being applied to him? Why yes there is. Also, I am not in favor of stupid driving. You also appear to be ignoring the fact that the person driving was forced to use a vehicle approved by your government and are also forced to have some kind of metal tag on their vehicle ....I could go on.

Back to my question....Tell me what you know of the origin of Public Schools in the USA? Where it came from? Scared ?

do you saying that you are forced to stop at a red light, but you are not in favor of stupid driving. Are you playing both sides of the fence or are you admitting that force is needed in order to control the stupid ?

why don't you tell us all the origin of public schools. The same public schools your mother, father, sons ,as well as yourself attended. Please include citation

 

[Rob Roy]

do you saying that you are forced to stop at a red light, but you are not in favor of stupid driving. Are you playing both sides of the fence or are you admitting that force is needed in order to control the stupid ?

why don't you tell us all the origin of public schools. The same public schools your mother, father, sons ,as well as yourself attended. Please include citation

(defensive) Force is needed to control those that initiate aggression. If a person comes to a red light and there is nobody else around for miles should they stop? If they don't stop and a little piggy was hiding in his little piggy car and stops the person, has the traffic violator been harmed or did he cause harm? How?




Okay, I will tell you a a bit about the origin of Public Schools. I'll assume you are either ignorant there or would prefer not to examine it. On second thought even had you examined it, I would still think you are ignorant, in a cognitive dissonant kind of way.

The Public School model used in the United States came from a model developed in Prussia, by Kaiser Wilhelm. He wanted more obedient (willing to die in a stupid war) soldiers and more compliant and sychophantic "citizens". This model was brought to the USA in the mid 1800s by a mind your business for you type by the name of Horace Mann.

Government schools which are all coercively funded are maintained today in large part via an automatic ransom on a persons property (home) whether they like it or not.

Indoctrination is the main goal. Coincidentally, government run schools are also the 10TH plank of the Communist Manifesto, Comrade Laudromat

All of that begs the question, if government schools provide consumers such a great value, why must they use force in order to fund them? I bet you don't give an answer to that question.

 

[londonfog]

(defensive) Force is needed to control those that initiate aggression. If a person comes to a red light and there is nobody else around for miles should they stop? If they don't stop and a little piggy was hiding in his little piggy car and stops the person, has the traffic violator been harmed or did he cause harm? How?




Okay, I will tell you a a bit about the origin of Public Schools. I'll assume you are either ignorant there or would prefer not to examine it. On second thought even had you examined it, I would still think you are ignorant, in a cognitive dissonant kind of way.

The Public School model used in the United States came from a model developed in Prussia, by Kaiser Wilhelm. He wanted more obedient (willing to die in a stupid war) soldiers and more compliant and sychophantic "citizens". This model was brought to the USA in the mid 1800s by a mind your business for you type by the name of Horace Mann.

Government schools which are all coercively funded are maintained today in large part via an automatic ransom on a persons property (home) whether they like it or not.

Indoctrination is the main goal. Coincidentally, government run schools are also the 10TH plank of the Communist Manifesto, Comrade Laudromat

All of that begs the question, if government schools provide consumers such a great value, why must they use force in order to fund them? I bet you don't give an answer to that question.

First where the fuck is your citation. Second I suggest you Google Martin Luther and his letter To the Councilmen of All Cities in Germany That They Establish and Maintain Christian Schools." The concept of free schooling was brought to America by Pilgrims and the Puritans beginning in 1620.


https://www.raceforward.org/research/reports/historical-timeline-public-education-us
http://www.aproundtable.org/history-blog/blog.cfm?ID=296&AUTHOR_ID=9

 

[Red1966]

REPORTED AS: I'M CLUELESS.

Well, your "perfect" English seems to leave a little bit lacking

 

[londonfog]

We will continue our debate later @Rob Roy. Off to take care of some laundromat business

 

[Rob Roy]

First where the fuck is your citation. Second I suggest you Google Martin Luther and his letter To the Councilmen of All Cities in Germany That They Establish and Maintain Christian Schools." The concept of free schooling was brought to America by Pilgrims and the Puritans beginning in 1620.


https://www.raceforward.org/research/reports/historical-timeline-public-education-us
http://www.aproundtable.org/history-blog/blog.cfm?ID=296&AUTHOR_ID=9

Public schools in the United States have nothing to do with "free" or freedom.

That is quite obvious. First they are not free, as they usually represent the largest part of the property tax theft in many locales.

Also, if a person must pay or lose their house, freedom left the building too Elvis.


Which thing do you want me to cite? I thought you'd have your pocket copy of the Communist Manifesto available Chairman Soap n Suds.

I think you use the word free and schooling incorrectly. If something is compulsory, it's not schooling, it's indoctrination.

Also, the Pilgrims called and said you are a turkey.

 

[Red1966]

First where the fuck is your citation. Second I suggest you Google Martin Luther and his letter To the Councilmen of All Cities in Germany That They Establish and Maintain Christian Schools." The concept of free schooling was brought to America by Pilgrims and the Puritans beginning in 1620.


https://www.raceforward.org/research/reports/historical-timeline-public-education-us
http://www.aproundtable.org/history-blog/blog.cfm?ID=296&AUTHOR_ID=9

Wait, I thought you opposed Christian schools. I guess now you claim government enforcement of religious education is all hunky-dory.

 

[Red1966]

do you saying that you are forced to stop at a red light, but you are not in favor of stupid driving. Are you playing both sides of the fence or are you admitting that force is needed in order to control the stupid ?

why don't you tell us all the origin of public schools. The same public schools your mother, father, sons ,as well as yourself attended. Please include citation

"force is needed in order to control the stupid" Tell the truth. You want force applied to those who disagree with you. "Stupid' has nothing to do with it.

 

[Red1966]

In my county substitutes must have a 4yr. degree. Whats with the "right about now" ? I make it a permanent condition.

Yet you reply to all my post, then cry to get them deleted.

 

[Red1966]

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First I'm butthurt, then I'm euphoric. Perhaps you should just give up trying to project your false narrative. You're failing badly.

 

[Red1966]

In my county substitutes must have a 4yr. degree. Whats with the "right about now" ? I make it a permanent condition.

It's the same in my county, also. But only the substitutes, not the full time teachers.

 

[Pinworm]

First I'm butthurt, then I'm euphoric. Perhaps you should just give up trying to project your false narrative. You're failing badly.

Still craving my attention, Red? You keep calling out my name. You really need to get over your obsession with me.

 

[overgrowem]

Yet you reply to all my post, then cry to get them deleted.

Cite ! I have asked to have deleted. I do not reply to all Ur posts,some are so inane they rate Ignoring. I reply mostly for the same reason many (most I suspect) others reply to U. U are an easy target.

 

[londonfog]

Wait, I thought you opposed Christian schools. I guess now you claim government enforcement of religious education is all hunky-dory.

Quote where I'm against christian school nitwit. I would suggest you stay out of other peoples conversations. You never take the time to read the whole thread. You just jump in at the last page thinking you have a clue as to what we all are talking about.

 

[londonfog]

"force is needed in order to control the stupid" Tell the truth. You want force applied to those who disagree with you. "Stupid' has nothing to do with it.

force is needed to control idiots who like burning down homes

 

[UncleBuck]

When you used the word "teach" it would have been more appropriate if you had said "indoctrinate".

Anyone with knowledge can teach another person in a given realm.

Indoctrinating however, is "teaching" absent the students free will being involved. In other words the payment is forcefully extracted and the students are in some sense a captive.

You can distract from the points I made above, but you can't refute them. Know why? Cuz they're true.

every parent in america has the option to move to somewhere with no property taxes where they can homeschool their children.

instead, they overwhelmingly choose to move to areas with the highest property taxes and then they vote for tax increases upon themselves and send their children to public schools.


THE FREE MARKET HAS SPOKEN.

 

[UncleBuck]

(defensive) Force is needed to control those that initiate aggression.

i agree, that's why we have civil rights.

to defend the minorities you are racist against from your racist aggression.

 

[UncleBuck]

property tax theft

ya mean the property tax that you said you knew about and chose to accept voluntrily and without coercion as part of your decision to buy your house where you did?

that's called consent, not theft you fucking retard.