anyone bubble water before feeding?

[TheDabWiz]

Hey everyone. I read on here somewhere about how using a bubble stone in your water you use on your plants. It makes more oxygen in the water and help roots or something? Well I bought all the stuff too do it for my next grow I'm starting within the next few weeks. My question is does anyone else do this with their water? I'd like too know from experience how long too let the water bubble for and some other dumb stuff.
Thanks in advance too anyone who reply!!!

 

[Mad_Prophessor]

If you store water for multiple days before you use it, it will lose oxygen from being stagnant. I have a 35 gallon storage barrel and have an air stone running most of the time. At the very least, I let it run a few hours before I do anything with the water. My plants really like having the added oxygen in the water. They react very well to it.

 

[TheDabWiz]

If you store water for multiple days before you use it, it will lose oxygen from being stagnant. I have a 35 gallon storage barrel and have an air stone running most of the time. At the very least, I let it run a few hours before I do anything with the water. My plants really like having the added oxygen in the water. They react very well to it.

Thanks man! That helps me a bit. Think u could answer one more question for me? I'm growing outdoors and was gunna put germd seeds right into 5 gallon pots....will it slow down growth if I don't start in smaller one then transplant? I'm doing g 10 plants max and have a lot of space so I figured I didn't need too bother with transplanting them? Thanks if you can help me out man!!!

 

[GrowinDad]

If you have patience, it will be fine, Just don't post that they aren't growing a week after transplant as they will devlop roots in the big pot for a while.

I used to air stone my water. Don't anymore and can't honestly say whether it made a difference.

 

[researching]

I'll use it to both mix my solution and aerate the water. I don't know if it helps, but it can't hurt.

 

[TheDabWiz]

If you have patience, it will be fine, Just don't post that they aren't growing a week after transplant as they will devlop roots in the big pot for a while.

I used to air stone my water. Don't anymore and can't honestly say whether it made a difference.

So starting in a 5 gal smart pot would make it so my seeds spout and then do nothing but grow roots and no top growth is basicly what I'm getting? I can't have any kind of delays on my girls cause I'm already gunna be late starting cause I can't pre grow indoors so I have too start from seed outdoors. So that means any kind of delay of any time on growth will ruin the outcome I'm looking for. So is that basicly it? If I start them in 5 gal the roots will grow and the vegetation up top will be super small till it hits sides of container?

 

[mr sunshine]

So starting in a 5 gal smart pot would make it so my seeds spout and then do nothing but grow roots and no top growth is basicly what I'm getting? I can't have any kind of delays on my girls cause I'm already gunna be late starting cause I can't pre grow indoors so I have too start from seed outdoors. So that means any kind of delay of any time on growth will ruin the outcome I'm looking for. So is that basicly it? If I start them in 5 gal the roots will grow and the vegetation up top will be super small till it hits sides of container?

doesn't really matter it's going to be the same anyway. The 5 gallon is going to get root bound very quick... what outcome do you expect from a plant grown for 6 months in 5 gallons of soil?you need 30 gallon smart pots, at least that's what they tell me. Or build raised beds!

 

[TheDabWiz]

doesn't really matter it's going to be the same anyway. The 5 gallon is going to get root bound very quick... what outcome do you expect from a plant grown for 6 months in 5 gallons of soil?you need 30 gallon smart pots, at least that's what they tell me. Or build raised beds!

This would be nice....to bad I live in an illegal state and can't grow fucking monsters

 

[phil k]

young plants don't require added oxygen to the water.. i have had serious oxygen depletion issues on very large moms before where the rooting system was so large basic oxygen in the water wasn't enough... your plants will go through oxygen depletion when they get older if you have a good rooting system and yes your plants roots feed off the oxygen you won't see massive growth from it but what happens is your rooting system is properly boosted and it enables the roots to expand and grow larger than thin whispy roots.... its way more important with soil grows because the soil compacts on the roots and the root oxygen pockets are squished.. so roots can't get super massive really fast... heres a shot of a 2 gallon bucket veg grow rooting system just before going into flower.. i always always oxygenate my water with a air stone. .. and on larger plants i supplement 30% h202 IN SUPER SMALL AMOUNTS 1ml-5 gallon. I've had mature 5 gallon 5 ft tall moms that went through oxygen issues even with oxygenation of the water with a air stone.... and the only way to get them back in line was supplementing oxygen every other feed...

heres the root system pic

 

[Bugeye]

Bubbling your water is a good way to keep your water sanitized but it doesn't do a lot for a plant in terms of increasing oxygen levels in the root zone. As soon as you stop the bubbling the dissolved oxygen (DO) levels in water begin to drop, and they really aren't all that high to begin with in fully saturated water. Far more oxygen gets pulled into the soil from watering than what gets brought in as DO. Adding aeration elements to your soil mix (like perlite, vermiculite) will do more for your root zone oxygen levels.

 

[old shol4evr]

i have very hard water were im at ,i bubble the chlorine out of mine ,i have a 18 gal tote i fill bubble 2 days and then feed. my girls take a gallon each and when i get down to about 4 gallons in tote i fill it and bubble again.the out come of your pots will be the same however you do it,if you use root powder with every transplant ,less shock ,it just seems better potting up for me ,i start in solo cup when roots come out bottom i transplant to 1 gal from 1 gal to 5 gallon,just my method i like to see if im dailing in on good root system by doing this,it might seem quicker but all in all it comes out the same

 

[Mad_Prophessor]

Thanks man! That helps me a bit. Think u could answer one more question for me? I'm growing outdoors and was gunna put germd seeds right into 5 gallon pots....will it slow down growth if I don't start in smaller one then transplant? I'm doing g 10 plants max and have a lot of space so I figured I didn't need too bother with transplanting them? Thanks if you can help me out man!!!

I would stage them up from solo cups, to 1.5 (or 1 gal), and then finally to the 5 gal. IF you put the seed in the big pot, it will make it VERY difficult to regulate the watering or feeding until the plant fills out the pot. I did it once a few years ago just to see what happened and all it did was piss me off. It was impossible to get it on any schedule for water/food. I had to wait for water to evaporate out of the soil (sometimes up to two weeks) while it was small since the roots didn't even come close to filling the pot.

 

[REALSTYLES]

Air stone good for keeping the water oxygenated. Take a look at DWC systems, it requires oxygen in the water to keep the roots living but temps have to be right as well or root rot. I use a recirculating drip system and I keep an air stone in every res running 24/7 and automated feeding 3 times a day for 2 mins and the media I'm using is Grodan 6" Hugo rock wool

 

[vostok]

yes it makes more air in the water then pops at the surface ....just think about what you are doing ....
avoid the lemons, leaping of the cliff, many things dun by noobies is really dumb ...but funny?

 

[Mad_Prophessor]

yes it makes more air in the water then pops at the surface ....just think about what you are doing ....
avoid the lemons, leaping of the cliff, many things dun by noobies is really dumb ...but funny?

Clearly you are missing the point of air stones. If they did nothing, they would not be used in aquariums now would they? Yes the bubbles rise to the surface, but it is what you don't see that makes a difference. They add oxyegn to the water regardless if you want to believe it or not. I use one and I am far from a noob. Try feeding your plants stagnant water and see what it does to them. If you keep a large quantity of water on hand for several days, you will want to oxygenate it.

 

[vostok]

some are funnier than others ...and many still leap off that cliff

 

[researching]

yes it makes more air in the water then pops at the surface ....just think about what you are doing ....
avoid the lemons, leaping of the cliff, many things dun by noobies is really dumb ...but funny?

Dude, where can I see a bunch of lemons leap off a cliff? That would be badass!

 

[Dr.Pecker]

get two jugs pour it back and forth a few times and you're good.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Get 2 aquariums one with a airstone and one without. grow plants in them, see what does better.

 

[phil k]

but the oxygen issues really only come into play in water being stored over 24 hours you have to oxygenate like someone said before it will go stagnant... but really is important in soil grows m

Air stone good for keeping the water oxygenated. Take a look at DWC systems, it requires oxygen in the water to keep the roots living but temps have to be right as well or root rot. I use a recirculating drip system and I keep an air stone in every res running 24/7 and automated feeding 3 times a day for 2 mins and the media I'm using is Grodan 6" Hugo rock woolView attachment 3407582 View attachment 3407583 View attachment 3407585

yeah see he's running rock wool right.. you can't run rock wool without that system... instead of using droppers like he is using... you can flood those same trays... youll be dealing with ph swings though when you flood... he has it done right......

REALSTYLES- i assume your setup is for fresh nutrient drip? thats what it looks like...