Seattle sees fallout from $15 minimum wage, as other cities follow suit

[UncleBuck]

You truly are a disgusting racist misogynist shit.

Using race and disparaging remarks against women to prop up your shallow ego ... fucking psychopath!

Disgusting.

nothing i wrote was even racist.

why so you keep so silent when, say, nitro harley posts pictures of obama as the son of two monkeys? or when any one of a dozen+ members here say the most blatantly racist shit, like tbonejack calling obama a kenyan born muslim, or ginwilly positing that blacks did not "evolve from the neck up", or red1966 stating that blacks are just naturally "inclined to criminality", or desert dude stating that blacks can't speak right, or nutes and nugs stating that the war on poverty is just a bunch of handouts to blacks, or althor stating that all the problems in the south are caused by blacks, or so on and so forth?

 

[Uncle Ben]

http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Wal-Mart_(WMT)/Data/Gross_Profit

Not to mention...

"C. Douglas McMillon, who became the president and CEO of Wal-Mart Stores Inc. of Bentonville on Feb. 1, saw his total compensation skyrocket 168 percent to $25.6 million for the fiscal year that ended Jan. 31 as compared with the previous year."

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/98329/wal-mart-ceo-doug-mcmillon-earned-256-million-last-year

Furthermore...

"The Walton Family Fortune according to Forbes

-Christy Walton and family $35.9 billion
-Jim Walton $34.9 billion
-Alice Walton $33.7 billion
-S. Robson Walton $33.4 billion
-Ann Walton Kroenke $4.8 billion
-Nancy Walton Laurie $4 billion

Total US$174.6 billion"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walton_family

"The Walton family, which owns Wal-Mart, controls a fortune equal to the wealth of the bottom 42 percent of Americans combined."

http://gawker.com/the-waltons-are-the-greediest-family-in-the-world-1300311273


If Walmart can't pay their employees a living wage, then why can they increase the pay of their CEO by 168%?

So, what's your point?

 

[Uncle Ben]

Yes, Denmark is very different from the US. In many ways. Taxes are higher. With higher taxes, the cost of living is higher.

But look at what they get from their investment.

• Low government debt relative to GDP. Their debt is half that of the US.
• A stronger economy than the US in terms of GDP growth rate.
• A comprehensive, effective and very popular health care system from cradle to grave. Comparing costs and effectiveness their system is much better than the US.
• Denmark's education system is very good and college is tuition free for Danish citizens. Danish college students receive assistance for housing and a stipend of about $900/month. The result is a better educated work force which is the main driver for their healthy economy.
• Poverty rate is low, the economy is strong, employment rates are better than in the US,
• Corruption in the government is low,
• Studies looking at the mental well being of the population show that the Danish are happier than people in the US.
• Social mobility -- the percentage of people born into the lower income brackets and move up to the higher income brackets is higher in Denmark than in the US.
• A standard of living that is among the highest in the world.

So, don't just look at the cost. Look at the benefit too.

Denmark is very different from the US and I'm not saying that everybody will be happier if we just adopted their system. I'm just saying that our paradigm is not even close to the best. Conservatives want to keep us that way. I don't know why the working classes would support that. I don't think they will for very much longer.

Got your plane ticket ready? I don't see Americans fleeing to shit holes like Denmark or Mexico....just the opposite.

 

[UncleBuck]

Got your plane ticket ready? I don't see Americans fleeing to shit holes like Denmark or Mexico....just the opposite.

the number of illegal immigrants in ths country shrank from 12.7 million to 11.1 million over the last decade or so.

you're dumb and your garden sucks.

 

[Fogdog]

Got your plane ticket ready? I don't see Americans fleeing to shit holes like Denmark or Mexico....just the opposite.

Denmark is a shit hole? Really? Wow that's just plain ignorant. Also, pretty much a wrong take on what I was saying.

You are bitter tonight, too bad for you.

 

[Fogdog]

Consider this, Those that are lobbying for lower wages in our Capital are also building schools, roads, police stations in Asia.
We got a new Walmart, but we lost 2 fire stations here in CC county.

Its happening all over the country. I can buy a five gallon jar of pickles for cheap at Walmart but my city is bankrupt.

Those that are lobbying for lower wages in the US are looking at the political system in China and salivating over how much control the wealthy oligarchy have over the political, economic and judicial systems. Most of the wealth in China is concentrated in just a handful of families with almost total control of the lives of everybody else. Sound familiar? If they haven't already done it, our oligarchs are in the process of establishing that kind of control here.

This argument over minimum wage is just another move towards the erosion of the political and economic clout of middle income and blue collar income workers.

 

[Grandpapy]

Those that are lobbying for lower wages in the US are looking at the political system in China and salivating over how much control the wealthy oligarchy have over the political, economic and judicial systems. Most of the wealth in China is concentrated in just a handful of families with almost total control of the lives of everybody else. Sound familiar? If they haven't already done it, our oligarchs are in the process of establishing that kind of control here.

It's going to be in our best interest to put "China First". what's good for Halliburton is good for ........

 

[nitro harley]

Its happening all over the country. I can buy a five gallon jar of pickles for cheap at Walmart but my city is bankrupt.

Those that are lobbying for lower wages in the US are looking at the political system in China and salivating over how much control the wealthy oligarchy have over the political, economic and judicial systems. Most of the wealth in China is concentrated in just a handful of families with almost total control of the lives of everybody else. Sound familiar? If they haven't already done it, our oligarchs are in the process of establishing that kind of control here.

This argument over minimum wage is just another move towards the erosion of the political and economic clout of middle income and blue collar income workers.

You do realize that a lot of cities are going bankrupt. They had gravy jobs with big retirement packages and milked the little guy for all of there chances to be like city workers. And then they didn't die soon enough and more people got to retire from the same job that they got retire from. And lets not forget the new guy thats doing the job the other two were doing so he can retire some day. Its like a pyramid scheme and then the day comes when they run out of money.

 

[UncleBuck]

You do realize that a lot of cities are going bankrupt. They had gravy jobs with big retirement packages and milked the little guy for all of there chances to be like city workers. And then they didn't die soon enough and more people got to retire from the same job that they got retire from. And lets not forget the new guy thats doing the job the other two were doing so he can retire some day. Its like a pyramid scheme and then the day comes when they run out of money.

is that why boise county, idaho ran out of money?

use your big brain and do an analysis for us. don't just parrot fox news.

 

[nitro harley]

is that why boise county, idaho ran out of money?

use your big brain and do an analysis for us. don't just parrot fox news.

I do my part and thats all that counts really. Actually I am doing more than my part because I have been paying tax's in two states. So its a bonus from nitro.

 

[Fogdog]

You do realize that a lot of cities are going bankrupt. They had gravy jobs with big retirement packages and milked the little guy for all of there chances to be like city workers. And then they didn't die soon enough and more people got to retire from the same job that they got retire from. And lets not forget the new guy thats doing the job the other two were doing so he can retire some day. Its like a pyramid scheme and then the day comes when they run out of money.

Thanks for bringing the IQ of the room down, nitrox. You say its all due to those darn workers that negotiated a good pension with their employer in exchange for lower paychecks while working. Yes, those darn workers keep on living. Why can't they just die like they were supposed to. Very convenient explanation you have. Its all their fault so they should take the hit and you nor I should not consider ourselves responsible for their pensions.

Those people earned every penny of their pension. It wasn't a pyramid scheme, it was an agreement to take less pay now so that they could have a higher pension later. The problem is that Reagan, came into office and started the erosion of wages for the middle and blue collar earners. They were the tax base for those cities. Now that their spending power has dropped, they can no longer afford those houses and pay those taxes. The wealthy that benefited from those pay cuts don't live in those cities. Their fire departments are doing just fine thank you very much.

Oh, your wife collects a social security pension that you sort of got by gaming the system doesn't she? Its ok, you played by the rules well not really but you found a loophole. Good for you. It seems kind of mendacious when I hear you complain about other people negotiating in good faith and claiming they milked the system. .

Edit: Here is a breakdown of the 8 cities that declared bankruptcy.
http://www.cheatsheet.com/hot-feature/8-u-s-cities-that-went-bankrupt.html/?a=viewall

Five of the eight bankruptcy were triggered by something other than pension funding crises. Nitrox's penchant for spouting Faux News is revealing its inaccuracy again.

 

[UncleBuck]

Oh, your wife collects a social security pension that you sort of got by gaming the system doesn't she?

sort of?

he "hired" his 62 year old whale partner just so that her non-existent social security benefits (because she never worked or paid into the system for her entire life) would be bumped up to about $1500 a month, aka $18,000 every year.

all this because she paid 6.2% of ~$50k worth of fake earnings that she never even worked for 8 years, a grand total contribution of $24,000.

combined with the medicare benefits she receives to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars annually (because she is morbidly obese), everything they collect after year 1 is free money that they in no way deserve nor earned nor paid in.

at least the government employees busted their asses 40 hours a week for decades on end to earn their retirements.

nitro harley and his whale of a wife just cheated their way into hundreds of thousands of dollars of our money until their pathetic and racist existences on this mortal coil cease to be.

 

[Padawanbater2]

sort of?

he "hired" his 62 year old whale partner just so that her non-existent social security benefits (because she never worked or paid into the system for her entire life) would be bumped up to about $1500 a month, aka $18,000 every year.

all this because she paid 6.2% of ~$50k worth of fake earnings that she never even worked for 8 years, a grand total contribution of $24,000.

combined with the medicare benefits she receives to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars annually (because she is morbidly obese), everything they collect after year 1 is free money that they in no way deserve nor earned nor paid in.

at least the government employees busted their asses 40 hours a week for decades on end to earn their retirements.

nitro harley and his whale of a wife just cheated their way into hundreds of thousands of dollars of our money until their pathetic and racist existences on this mortal coil cease to be.

How does he justify his constant bitching about poor people and their greedy entitlements?

 

[Fogdog]

How does he justify his constant bitching about poor people and their greedy entitlements?

Because, you know, republican

 

[Padawanbater2]

Because, you know, republican

Aaah. that makes sense.. I should have guessed..

 

[Fogdog]

sort of?

he "hired" his 62 year old whale partner just so that her non-existent social security benefits (because she never worked or paid into the system for her entire life) would be bumped up to about $1500 a month, aka $18,000 every year.

all this because she paid 6.2% of ~$50k worth of fake earnings that she never even worked for 8 years, a grand total contribution of $24,000.

combined with the medicare benefits she receives to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars annually (because she is morbidly obese), everything they collect after year 1 is free money that they in no way deserve nor earned nor paid in.

at least the government employees busted their asses 40 hours a week for decades on end to earn their retirements.

nitro harley and his whale of a wife just cheated their way into hundreds of thousands of dollars of our money until their pathetic and racist existences on this mortal coil cease to be.

Yeah, "sort of" and also where I say, "It seems kind of mendacious when I hear you complain" yeah well "kind of" was the same thin blade of sarcasm..

Irony uncle buck, irony and sarcasm.

Actually its downright filthy and reeks of corruption, pathological grasping for what is not his and criminal intent to defraud the government.

But who wants to say that to a buddy on a pot forum?

He's not going to understand anyway, conservatives are obsessed with the idea that somebody else might get stuff that they didn't get. So they reach in and grab whatever they can without conscience.

Disgusting heap of rotted flesh...that he is. Well maybe sort of....

 

[god1]

nothing i wrote was even racist.

why so you keep so silent when, say, nitro harley posts pictures of obama as the son of two monkeys? or when any one of a dozen+ members here say the most blatantly racist shit, like tbonejack calling obama a kenyan born muslim, or ginwilly positing that blacks did not "evolve from the neck up", or red1966 stating that blacks are just naturally "inclined to criminality", or desert dude stating that blacks can't speak right, or nutes and nugs stating that the war on poverty is just a bunch of handouts to blacks, or althor stating that all the problems in the south are caused by blacks, or so on and so forth?

Given the context of the ridicule you're leveling against Nitro and his family, I don't believe for a second you don't understand what's racist about your crude mythical satire. It's exactly why you chose to do it in the first place.

Would you argue a little "black-face" never hurt? I suppose, given your "non-coherent" thought process, quite possibly.

You have to be held to a higher standard because you're that "guilt ridden kracker" taking on the responsibility of the "social rectifier" the "social do gooder".

You misogynistic bastard, you!

 

[Flaming Pie]

You do realize that a lot of cities are going bankrupt. They had gravy jobs with big retirement packages and milked the little guy for all of there chances to be like city workers. And then they didn't die soon enough and more people got to retire from the same job that they got retire from. And lets not forget the new guy thats doing the job the other two were doing so he can retire some day. Its like a pyramid scheme and then the day comes when they run out of money.

I don't think retirement had anything to do with it. For government jobs.

I imagine it was from taking too many risky ventures and not investing in the people who pay taxes.

If people decide to move elsewhere because the city isn't safe or doesn't have enough businesses hiring then the tax base becomes smaller.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Safety, Schools and Jobs are what influence many peoples decision on where to live.

If all that sucks people start looking for nicer places to live.

 

[Grandpapy]

Safety, Schools and Jobs are what influence many peoples decision on where to live.

If all that sucks people start looking for nicer places to live.

The sad part is the list of countries is getting larger.......