Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

Clockboy Orange

Clockboy Orange

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abe supercro said:
I suppose you'd let someone like DVG trash your name dozens of times, over months, and you wouldn't bother to show up to say a word in defense, yeah right.
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Abe, you grilled DVG pretty hard yet when the hamburger hit the grill you were nowhere to be found. You seem to pop up at all the convenient times. But my burger is burnt ... no mcdonalds job for you.
 
abe supercro

abe supercro

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Clockboy Orange said:
Abe, you grilled DVG pretty hard yet when the hamburger hit the grill you were nowhere to be found. You seem to pop up at all the convenient times. But my burger is burnt ... no mcdonalds job for you.
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Right, I was one of only a few that even bothered to question dvg's integrity. His incessant negative smears were my first clue. If he had only kept his mouth shut, focused on sharing his breeding techniques and selling beans he would be further ahead.
 
Clockboy Orange

Clockboy Orange

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abe supercro said:
Right, I was one of only a few that even bothered to question dvg's integrity. His incessant negative smears were my first clue. If he had only kept his mouth shut, focused on sharing his breeding techniques and selling beans he would be further ahead.
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One can only give you a medal of honor for your service to the community, I think you scared the varmint out of town.
 
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Ken Estes

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petedav said:
hi ken, im about a week away from ken estes gdp harvest and looking purple and dank only 3 females out of a 10 pack! i will let you know the end results.[/QUOTE
We Can Make Sandwiches said:
In the end I want a pack of legit gdp beans and i dont fucking care who they are from.

Its sad when money comes between such beautiful plants.
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Well if you want the authentic original ones than you should come to the original breeder/grower.
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abe supercro said:
lol cockboy. dvg will be back to post here.
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Thank you Abe for recognizing that we never got into the negativity back and forth. But when people started questioning our integrity and name calling. We had to stand up for ourselves and set the record straight. I'm too busy trying to work and keep pushing my genetics and help the industry as a whole and want to stay positive.
 
Blazin Purps

Blazin Purps

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Ken Estes said:
I will probably release clones of our Phantom Cookies first and seeds second.
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Do you know what the real genetics on the Phantom Cookies are? I saw it listed as Bay Platinum Cookies x GDP and also Cherry Pie x GDP back when it came out and it has never been cleared up by anyone as far as I know. I assume you know since your company put it out.
 
coolkid.02

coolkid.02

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Ken Estes said:
I hope this will be the last that I have to speak of this. This will be my last comment for today. I have been working for the last year and a half. I have my original several original males and females and I have been crossing and pheno hunting to find the best new males since I already had the best stock of females. Now that I have an impressive stock of males that I have grown up and flowered out. I'm ready to start releasing stuff again. I have all my original award winning females and now I have some new and old male plants that are about as good as I have ever had. I'm going to have a great library of old and new crosses that I will release later. I have been working with GDP since the beginning and always had great success. Other people have taken seeds of my strains and won cups with them all the way from Michigan to Denver to California. The way Eric had males that he used that he never flowered out and just chose them randomly. His whole methodology and business ethics are highly questionable. I realized this and had to separate from him and he got pissed off. And that's when he started to lie and started DVG and began attacking me because I wasn't working with him anymore. What I have been doing is improving my genetics every year by improving on my phenos and picking and choosing the right genetics moving forward and crossing them back into my award winning strains. Now that I have explained this I hope you all understand what the real story is. I hope this sheds light on my side of the story. This is just another example of how you have to be careful of who you are working with to protect your medicine. If Eric has so much negative feelings towards me he should be using his own genetics and stop using my name and my strains. There was no need to attack me he could have gone on his own and done things on his own and just started DVG without using my name or genetics. Sometimes people try to put down others to lift themselves up, but it doesn't work. I have done nothing but tried to help him and this is the thank you I got. I'm here responding to this nonsense because I feel that the truth is important and this has been going on for too long. To all my fans that have supported us and myself. I want to say thank you for continuing to support us!!

Sincerely, Ken Estes
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This begs the question, why did you sell the crosses he made under your label if you felt he didn't know what he was doing? Kinda seems odd to send those out to vendors given your above statement.

Should we even mention ken's lack of credibility, Bay 11 (Bodhi appy mom entered into cup) genetics anyone?
 
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Ken Estes

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Blazin Purps said:
Do you know what the real genetics on the Phantom Cookies are? I saw it listed as Bay Platinum Cookies x GDP and also Cherry Pie x GDP back when it came out and it has never been cleared up by anyone as far as I know. I assume you know since your company put it out.
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Phantom Cookies are Bay Platinum cookies x GDP. It was never cherry pie x GDP that equals cookies. Also, the bay platinum cookies has cherry pie in it.
 
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Velvet Elvis

Velvet Elvis

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while youre here ken... For the love of cannabis. change the pics you have for each strain at the seedbanks.

the big ass outdoor plants dont lend well to sales. and it corroborates the the story that DVG told. I really wish I was closer as I would help.
 
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Dungeons_Vault

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hahahahahahahhaha

YOU GUYS FUCKING SERIOUS????

THATS NOT KEN!!! HE C A N N O T TYPE!!!

hey Ken?? I mean, his kids.... POST PICS!!! YOU GOT NONE!

I have sat here and shown you guys picture after picture and Ken shows up spouts off and you guys all assume I'm a joke now??

My work speaks for itself. Ken knows I made the seeds.

Lets get the following questions aswered...
1. Did Ken make all the available seed stock on Attitude seeds IN HIS BACKYARD, WITH MULTIPLE MALES GROWING OPENLY?
2. DID ERIC (ME, DVG) MAKE (THE FUNK, CANDYV2, COOGIES, GRAND OG, PURPLE CHAMPAGEN ETC) UP HERE IN WASHINGTON?
3. WHERE ARE YOUR PICS?
4. Cant ANYONE with half a fucking brain, go to "KING KLONES" OR HARBORSIDE OAKLAND AND GET ALL YOU "CUP WINNING" CLONES?
5. Was "Kens Phanton" just a clone from a vendor named "Pink Champagne" and renamed just to enter it into the cup?
6. Whats the gentics behind "Phantom Cookies"
7. Did you recieve a cutting from a rogue vendor called "appalachia" that you AGAIN changed the name of and entered it into a cup as "BAY11"
8. Did you release seeds of "BAY11" even though the cutting had been crossed?

SHOULD I GO ON?? KEN IS A JOKE. This aint a pissing contest. Do your own research. Ken would'nt DARE have adebate with me in public. I WELCOME IT ANY DAY!!!! He does't have a leg to stand on and that's a figure of speech, not a knock on his handicap.

You guys welcomed me, had good things to say. I have shown you things he has not. He even uses pics of other strains for his "new", "worked" strains.
 
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Dungeons_Vault

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Here's a pic from last year IN DECEMBER... Ask Ken, how could you have possibly, harvested seeds in october, sprouted those seeds, pheno selected, and flowered them all out, dry them and have them tested, and ready for release at the DECEMBER 2014 EMERALD CUP??? HOW IS THAT FUCKING POSSIBLEFullSizeRender (9).jpg
 
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Dungeons_Vault

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hey
@Ken Estes (one of Kens twin boys)

Since you stopped answering calls and fucked me on all the seeds, I took what I had left (that I luckily saved) and did what i could to recoop. We all know what goes in to making seeds. I gave up a flowering garden and didn't get ANY money back for a while. I was your slave! I wasn't paid. I finally started making money still was barely scraping by. You personally NEVER PAID ME A DIME while working with you.
How many hotels, cab rides, plane flights and meals did I PAY FOR?? Why the fuck is the owner of such a "well known successful company" have your breeder paying for everything?

Let's really settle this Tyler, Jacob, Ken... ask your dad what he wants you to type and then respond
 
Velvet Elvis

Velvet Elvis

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we should give DVG a break as I do recall how hard he had to work with all the bogus info he got from Ken. Ive never seen someone tread so much water for his job. Now here we are years later and he is trying to emerge the other side and he has some good work to show for it.

I ordered Grandpas breath along with some Alien Rift last night...
 
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