Kens GDP Changed to Dungeon Vault Genetics

ANYONE OUT THERE...
FEEL FREE TO SEND AN EMAIL TO dungeonsvaultgenetics@gmail.com and I'll send you two videos. One of Kens kids friend trying to sell seeds to a friend of mine at the emerald cup. Its about as funny as watching "the origins of GDP" on youtube... anyway. I'll also send the video I took in his backyard with ALLLLLLL the plants he open pollinated in that very backyard. The best part of the video, is that it shows A HUGE plant and if you go to Attitude seeds, its clearly the same plant he has a picture of for the bay thunderboldt. I'll go ahead and throw in his catpiss plant with pink pistils that he also used for his pic on attitude. He also thought it would be a good idea and REUSE a pic he had used for "phantom cookies" as his "coogies" example.

Dungeons_Vault said:

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@Ken Estes (one of Kens twin boys)

Since you stopped answering calls and fucked me on all the seeds, I took what I had left (that I luckily saved) and did what i could to recoop. We all know what goes in to making seeds. I gave up a flowering garden and didn't get ANY money back for a while. I was your slave! I wasn't paid. I finally started making money still was barely scraping by. You personally NEVER PAID ME A DIME while working with you.
How many hotels, cab rides, plane flights and meals did I PAY FOR?? Why the fuck is the owner of such a "well known successful company" have your breeder paying for everything?

Let's really settle this Tyler, Jacob, Ken... ask your dad what he wants you to type and then respond

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We financed your entire grow and you wanted to keep the entire harvest and that wasn't the arrangement. You thought that after you were done selling anything that was what was left for me and our partner as payment was good enough and you try to dictate this on your terms when that was never the agreement. Your entire ops were paid for and I personally drove my strains up to you or you would have had any of them. I would have never brought my genetics to you if I knew you were planning on keeping everything. And you made an agreement that you didn't live up to. You were doing this all under my brand name. All the events you went to were paid for. You never paid our investor or me for my genetics and using my company name. How could you expect to just give me and our partner the leftovers of what you had after your sales were done. We were partners and partners share from the entire pie not keep the whole pie and I'll leave some crumbs for you. All I got were complaints from patients, vendors and distributors about how terrible your attitude was. Customers did not like you or your attitude. This is the payback I get for trying to help you out. You say you were never paid how is that even possible to move into a new house, get all your new gear, new motorcycle all your new toys. How could you possibly afford any of those things if you had to pay for everything? YOUR LYING and it's absolutely ridiculous that you're trying to spin it your way. And to try to attack my methods of growing when you've never seen me pollinate one plant. You were never around so how could act like you even know what I do? You came to my house one day and all of the sudden you know how I do everything. You're a phony and a fake Eric and it will all come out. It's not hard for people to realize when your negative energy and karma comes to you when you try to reneg on a deal and try to screw partners over by stealing and than act like you didn't. The truth hurts and now that it is out people will realize not to do business with a thief.

HMMMM Thats oddd.
Why would a reputable breeder who has taken the time to "WORK" his seeds, and take pride in actually growing them out, have to use another pic he used well over two years ago now?

Nothing off about that guys? How many breeders CANT provide pics of what you're trying to buy?

Ken Estes said:

We financed your entire grow

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ummm no you did not

Ken Estes said:

Your entire ops were paid for and I personally drove my strains up to you or you would have had any of them. I would have never brought my genetics to you if I knew you were planning on keeping everything.

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you drove up clones that are available EVERYWHERE DUDE. I also didn't use Candyland, GDP, or Bay11 in ANY OF THE CROSSES I MADE FOR YOU. You drove those up on your terms and that trip was paid for by Ryan. Drugs affect the memory Ken, it's okay

Ken Estes said:

All I got were complaints from patients, vendors and distributors about how terrible your attitude was. Customers did not like you or your attitude.

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Thats weird, how did we sell out then? I believe you are referring mostly to a vendor who wanted our seeds for half what you wanted to sell them for. He was rude and tried to say sell them cheaper or ill go tell Ken...

Ken Estes said:

You say you were never paid how is that even possible to move into a new house, get all your new gear, new motorcycle all your new toys. How could you possibly afford any of those things if you had to pay for everything?

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It's called being an adult and WORKING for what I have. Sorry I didn't blow my money on cocaine and hookers. Or in your case, $3,000 a month in fast food. I SAVE MY MONEY and buy myself nice things. You also used to say "I'm the only guy with an 8 lighter that doesn't drive a new truck"

You're right. I drove a 1991 toyota 4x4, and a 15 year old Audi... and I bought myself a $2,500 motorcycle.... WOW. Such accomplishments.

Why dont you tell them how we all worked our ass off so you could afford youR $10,000 A MONTH mansion in Bel Air and the kids condo on Ocean Ave in LA just so they could go to school with white kids. SHUT THE FUCK UP

Velvet Elvis said:

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STAY TUNED...

MUCCCCCCH MORE TO COME

Hows that fed case going by the way? They magically let you off... orrrrr?

answer me this for all to see openly...
DID YOU NOT TAKE 1,920 PACKS OF SEEDS AND KEEP THEM?
I flew down in September with a duffle bag full of packaged seeds... Did you ever pay me a dime? SO, could you possibly admit to everyone, that that was a straight ripoff? We shared 1/2 earnings at every cup we attended together. Before I even paid myself back for the entire grow that produced the seeds, I had to split that first big chunk. You gave that half to the investor right then, in front of me. YOU sir are full of shit.

eastcoastmo said:

I just went through my seed stash and saw I've got a few of the older GDP strains like Og Kush, Kens kush, purple dream, bay dream and bay 11, thinking it's time to crack them all out.

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Those are all fire, but those were created by the cats who left ken before he put me in charge as head breeder. Pop them all, fire to be found.
Never have I ever said Ken doesn't know good weed, he's just hungry for money and would probably sell his daughter for enough money.

Ken Estes said:

try to attack my methods of growing when you've never seen me pollinate one plant. You were never around so how could act like you even know what I do? You came to my house one day and all of the sudden you know how I do everything.

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EXACTLY!! Nobody has. You had your sons and their friend do it. With jars of pollen and a paintbrush... outdoors.... in the wind.... with multiple strains.... plus the males that were already out there and growing openly....

Read up on pollen ad how it travels, then try to sell us on how you worked these seeds, and they are what you are advertisng them to be. NOBODY OPEN POLLINATES OUTDOORS. ITS OBSCENE. ITS INSANE, ITS UNCALLED FOR, AND ESPECIALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ITS AGAINST GROWERS CODE OF ETHICS YOU FUCKING DOUSCHE. How many gardens in LAKE COUNTY got pollinated by your stupid ass practices?

Anyone out there with a brain want to educate Ken?

Dungeons_Vault said:

It's called being an adult and WORKING for what I have. Sorry I didn't blow my money on cocaine and hookers. Or in your case, $3,000 a month in fast food. I SAVE MY MONEY and buy myself nice things. You also used to say "I'm the only guy with an 8 lighter that doesn't drive a new truck"

You're right. I drove a 1991 toyota 4x4, and a 15 year old Audi... and I bought myself a $2,500 motorcycle.... WOW. Such accomplishments.

Why dont you tell them how we all worked our ass off so you could afford youR $10,000 A MONTH mansion in Bel Air and the kids condo on Ocean Ave in LA just so they could go to school with white kids. SHUT THE FUCK UP

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I'm lost if he can't type how can he have sex to produce kids?

Both sides have spoken,now let's move on.....

Dungeons_Vault said:

@Blazin Purps you and I have history from when i worked with Ken do we not? Ken has had me do more backpedaling and editing to posts for misinformation than anyone I know.

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Yeah man for sure I have been talking with you for a little while now. I dont have any of our old messages anymore but from private conversations we have had I feel pretty confident in your honesty. That being said I obviously cant know for sure but those are my feelings on it.

What is "BAY PLATINUM COOKIES" ASK HIM THAT... AND WHY DOES IT HAVE THE NAME PHANTOM IN IT THEN? ISNT THAT THE CLONE YOU GUYS RENAMED? SEEMS A LITTLE ODD, DOESNT IT GUYS?

When I just asked what Phantom Cookies was he said Cherry Pie was a part of Bay Platinum Cookies so I would be interested to know as well. I love Cherry Pie

Why would cherry pie, be called cookies? Cherry pie is GDP x with , I can't spell it. Berner talks about it with pig guy? On YouTube

Dungeons_Vault said:

Those are all fire, but those were created by the cats who left ken before he put me in charge as head breeder. Pop them all, fire to be found.
Never have I ever said Ken doesn't know good weed, he's just hungry for money and would probably sell his daughter for enough money.

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Cheers mate, definitely going to be popping them!
I'm a bit confused now, I thought candyland was bay platinum cookies x gdp....am I mistaken with this?

i have 4 outdoors and when i wanted to hit one, i brought her indoors , isnt it kinda common sense?

@Dungeons_Vault we good bro I was just trying to get the info on these seeds and crosses you tell us one thing then Ken comes here supposedly and tells us another so I was just trying to get it straight. I have no beef with anyone and I'm cool with everyone so nothing personal bro. I just want the seeds that produce plants like in the pics you have shown us. If they come from your seeds then I want them it just sucks that he selling same stuff as you and he seems to produce more stock of it. You have the parents he says he has them so all that just has the mind twisted.

akhiymjames said:

@Dungeons_Vault we good bro I was just trying to get the info on these seeds and crosses you tell us one thing then Ken comes here supposedly and tells us another so I was just trying to get it straight. I have no beef with anyone and I'm cool with everyone so nothing personal bro. I just want the seeds that produce plants like in the pics you have shown us. If they come from your seeds then I want them it just sucks that he selling same stuff as you and he seems to produce more stock of it. You have the parents he says he has them so all that just has the mind twisted.

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Oh MAN, I JUST WANT SOME FUCKIN DANK ha ha ha. All this commotion is killing me lol