AUTOMATIC AK - First grow - Indoor

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20th Nov (Day 13 Seedling) - Still making slow progress. Really hoping they pick up soon. Watered tonight as pots were really dry, gave them 1L each. Used 1/8 dose of IONIC Grow again. Also some really small white spots have appeared near the ends of the leaves on all 4 plants. There's no black dots under the leaves so I don't think it's spider mites. I'm hoping it's just burning off the misting. It could be a deficiency though that's why I've used nutes again, as the last water wasn't big. Got a few pics, it's my smallest plant but shows them up the best, can see them clearly if you zoom in. Close up pictures look yellow but it's just the light. Will upload progress pictures tomorrow.
 

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Nov 21 (Day 14 Seedling) - No new spots have appeared and plants look healthier then yesterday so I think it was a nutrient deficiency. After comparing today's photos with the ones after the transplant they have actually made good progress. This is the last day of my seedling stage. Going to start using veg nutrient schedule.

Plant photos are uploaded in the same order every time. Also first two photos are of the biggest one which I'm attempting some LST on. Using a plastic tie around the stem and pushed into the soil. I've not pushed to far yet just seeing how it responds. Grow light was shining out of the tent effecting the camera which makes them appear yellow but they are all a nice green.
 

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icurbyou said:
Dude, what are you using for lights? Your bedroom light? Do not give this small plant nutes. Get it something for photosythesis!
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Dude, I take it you didn't read my first post? What clearly tells you my setup, including what light I'm using?

Its a 400watt HPS multi spectrum. The plants are not directly under the light in any of the pictures. They are outside the tent. But the light is still shining out, as you can see in the top left of every picture and effecting the camera slightly (I've added that in to the last post, just to make it clearer for those who haven't read any other posts).

As for nutrient's I believe it is the right time, they had a problem on day 13, I fed them and now they don't. They have responded positively. You're supposed to go off what the plants tell you, aren't you?
 
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My comment about the light was facetious.... They look awful small for their age and i would not recommend nuting them.
 
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icurbyou said:
My comment about the light was facetious.... They look awful small for their age and i would not recommend nuting them.
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Well had you took the time to look back you would of seen my light was adequate. It's hard to tell if someone is joking via writing unless they say so or make it clear. Your post came across more sarcastic than anything else.

With the nutes, I only gave them 1/8 strength and they seemed to have responded well, so I stand by my decision. I watered them 4 or 5 times up to now (can't be bothered checking back and counting exactly) which is more than what I read would be needed. But with my temps being higher the water evaporates quicker. So I assume I've used up the nutrients that were already in the soil quicker than what the guides say. How can you not recommend doing something when it's having a positive effect?

As for being small, again if you checked back, I had to hide them for a few hours during a time they should of been under light and also had to transplant them the day after. Autos don't like being transplanted so this may set me back a bit, as Ive already said.

I hate to come across pissy. But you obviously haven't read the whole thread, which I don't mind, But if your going to post it would make sense to do so. Information in previous posts might tell you why something is lacking slightly or not on target.
 
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I already stated it and youre getting butt hurt... Your plants look very small for recieving nutes. The reason for your plants being small is irrelevant. At the end of the day, you dont have to take my advice. You seem pretty certain you're doing it properly so have at it. Its your grow, man.
 
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icurbyou said:
I already stated it and youre getting butt hurt... Your plants look very small for recieving nutes. The reason for your plants being small is irrelevant. At the end of the day, you dont have to take my advice. You seem pretty certain you're doing it properly so have at it. Its your grow, man.
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Saying they're to small does not explain why they should not be fed. I'm not certain at all, but I'm going off the information ive read. If you can give me more information then I might change something?

Everything I've read regarding when to start is usually based on time or on sign of a deficiency , unless of course the plants are really small and have not got many leaves, which can lead to them being burned. Mine have 4 sets of leaves on, which again ties into what I've read. I've also started at a real low dose, most guides say 1/4 but I've started at an 1/8 to be safe. If I'm wrong then please be more specific as to why?
 
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23rd Nov (Day 2 Veg) - Very happy with the last few days progress. My strongest one seems to be blowing up. Temps are still slightly high and humidity slightly low, slight leaf curling again on two of the plants from heat stress but I'm hoping when they get a little bigger they deal with it better, will just have to wait to see yield if it's effected much by it. Letting the pots really dry out to stretch the roots into the big pots before watering again but don't want to let the plants go to long so will keep checking the weight of the pot. Despite what icurbyou said they seem to have took the nutes really well.
 

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24th Nov (Day 3 Veg) - Watered today, little less than a litre each. Having to rotate pots every 24 hours now to allow lights to get to other leaves. Need to get some more ties for LST.

Few hours after watering plants started to droop, tips of leaves were touching the soil. I put that down to poor drainage as I have no perlite mixed into my soil, this is something I'll be changing on my next grow. Made a topic in the newbie forum and was advised to raise the pots off the saucers so I sat them in some plastic. Lights went off and when they came back on the plants had perked up.
 
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26th Nov (Day 5 Veg) - Watered today with 1/4 strength nutes, 1 Litre each. Steady progress growth wise. Leaves are sort of twisting so will have to keep an eye on the,, color wise is good though. Going to up the LST tomorrow. Also raised lights a few inches to keep distance from canopy.
 
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29th Nov (Day 8 Veg) - Gave straight water today, 1L each. Plants looking bushy now. Look short though. Will get pictures up tomorrow.
 
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30th Nov (Day 9 Veg) - Really getting bushy now. Keep move light up hoping they'll stretch a bit. I'm happy so far. Second plant in second photo doesn't look as good as the others. It did used to be the second best but is lacking now. Tips on bottom leaves are causing me concern. It's always been battling with curling leaves. Leaves still twisting so having to rotate pots. Really need to start more LST. Going to find something to use and get it on when lights come back on later. Also looks like some leaves are discoloured but it's just the bottom side of them as some of them are really pointing upwards.

Pictures really don't do them justice. Got no flash on the tablet I used. Happy overall though.
 

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1st Dec (Day 10 Veg) - Used shoe lace for LST on two plants as shown in pictures. I've tied to the frame of the tent temporarily. Will drill holes at top of pots on the weekend when I've got something good enough to do them properly with, like a drill. Didn't want to add loads and stress them to much to begin with, just did the main stem and going to see how it looks in a week. If they responded well I'll try use more LST to expose the opposite sides.

Plant at the back right isn't looking 100%, spots/patches are appearing on lower leaves, could be one of a few deficiencies, feeding with nutes tomorrow so will see how it responds.

Temps low as light is only just coming back on.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
 

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2nd Dec (Day 11 Veg) - LST Seems to be working. New growth pushing out and up. Main stems also turning back up towards light.

Watered 1.5L each with 1/4 strength nutes.

Same day update: Plant I've been concerned about in the back right seems to have come off the hose I used to stand it on to raise it off the saucer to allow better drainage. Since I've lifted it back onto them it's perked up. So I think the overall bad look of the plant is because of drainage. I've not used perlite but will be using it on my next grow. Live and learn.
 
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