injecting plants with sugar?

Jodon

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Those leaves are terribly burnt.
They are, that's why I experimented with her, she was having problems, ithought she was gunna die, had 6 scraggly nodes, almost white leaves, and the she wasn't growing at all, so I said fuck it and tried something I was reading
 

bict

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They are, that's why I experimented with her, she was having problems, ithought she was gunna die, had 6 scraggly nodes, almost white leaves, and the she wasn't growing at all, so I said fuck it and tried something I was reading
Good on ya. I don't agree with what you're doing but fuck it, your plants to experiment with em. As long as they're not mine, gg.
 

Sativied

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It won't work unless you use fructose. And not fructose from plants but from animals, including humans. You know, circle of life, animals eat plants, plants eat shit and piss, and, semen (with fructose in the proper structure). I recommend you two scientists read this thread for more details. Good luck.
 

jacksthc

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love it, great ideal and i can see this taking off in a few years time
but its going to be a long time before you get some good results from doing this
in therory you could take a cutting and have a drip/syringe pumping nutes/water directly up into the stem and it would grow very fast
(your just replacing the roots with a syringe/drip system )
 

Jodon

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It won't work unless you use fructose. And not fructose from plants but from animals, including humans. You know, circle of life, animals eat plants, plants eat shit and piss, and, semen (with fructose in the proper structure). I recommend you two scientists read this thread for more details. Good luck.
Thank you, again this is the kind of thing I was looking for. Never said my way was going to work, but there is a way. And if we can keep the negativity away we will accomplish things much faster and maybe learn a perfect algorithm to grow these beautiful, amazing plants :)
 

Jodon

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love it, great ideal and i can see this taking off in a few years time
but its going to be a long time before you get some good results from doing this
in therory you could take a cutting and have a drip/syringe pumping nutes/water directly up into the stem and it would grow very fast
(your just replacing the roots with a syringe/drip system )
That was my original idea! But it was a lot harder to fight gravity lol, figured try from the top in a fat stem and hope for the best. As you can see in the 2nd picture I posted I had to tape her to keep her from falling apart. But her leaves didn't even droop at all, and instantly started growing right away after a couple weeks of absolutely no growth.Maybe a coincidence? I will try a side by side because there are too many x factors at this point. But I am very interested. She's growing about an inch a daynow and the leaves are looking much better than before, other than the few past the point of no return.
 

jacksthc

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Thank you, again this is the kind of thing I was looking for. Never said my way was going to work, but there is a way. And if we can keep the negativity away we will accomplish things much faster and maybe learn a perfect algorithm to grow these beautiful, amazing plants :)
somthing like this could work

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jacksthc

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would be great if you pm me pictures and asked questions, i have been growing for about 10 years and do enjoy trying new things
may even give this a go my self, but will use a 5ltr pot and weigh it down, feed the plants as normal but add some weak nutes/water ec of 0.8 and see how the plant reacts
( a real boast for the plants in veg and flower)

If the black air line tube you can buy is the right size use that, make sure its all coved so light don't get in but not air tite use a veuve or somthing so air can get in and keep the nutes flowing

maybe use 1tsp of honey per 1 ltr of water and see if the clone grow roots
if it works, the clone should keep growing and we can skip the 2 week clonning stage :)
 

jacksthc

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Where did you find this picture? Do you have a link to something similar to what I am trying?
Just a drawing i did in paint, sorry fellow no links, never heard the ideal before but just have a feeling it could work.
 

Jodon

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would be great if you pm me pictures and asked questions, i have been growing for about 10 years and do enjoy trying new things
may even give this a go my self, but will use a 5ltr pot and weigh it down, feed the plants as normal but add some weak nutes/water ec of 0.8 and see how the plant reacts
( a real boast for the plants in veg and flower)

If the black air line tube you can buy is the right size use that, make sure its all coved so light don't get in but not air tite use a veuve or somthing so air can get in and keep the nutes flowing

maybe use 1tsp of honey per 1 ltr of water and see if the clone grow roots
if it works, the clone should keep growing and we can skip the 2 week clonning stage :)
How do you pm?
 

vostok

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Has anybody ever tried injecting sugar directly into the stem? I have been doing it with a white widow plant that was doing terrible. After 5 days she looks amazing compared to before. I just don't have any evidence to prove it's work or even if it's just my imagination. Does anybody have a side by side or something to show the effects? Would we be capable of growing with no light at all doing something like this? I'm not just injecting from time to time its a constant drip. She didn't even droop after shoving a thick needle most of the way through her stem.
Will get a better picture of syringe or whatever tomorrow when lights come back on.

I got into sugar about 5 years ago, after reading several reports,
namely the aussie one by Christine Beveridge
English ain't my main speech so I did struggle with this mis aligned googley gook.(prose)
after spending so much time translating it, I thought I'd give her ways a try
the last year or so I've converted the sugar to a teaspoon of honey instead
and prefer to foilar feed than Iv. the plant

I simply add a teaspoon of honey to a coffee cup of hot water, dissolve allow to cool add to a 500ml
spray bottle, fill the rest with cold water shake well and spray whenever the plants are at their max
about 3-4 times per week
I do this in the believe I'm short circuiting their feed system and am
applying the desired nutes/food directly feeding thru their stomata's

Apical dominance maintained by sugar limitation
http://www.qaafi.uq.edu.au/apical-dominance-maintained-by-sugar-limitation

Tho in your particular case reposition the needle, as all you are doing is filling the tubes/stalks with water/sugar mix,
with your method you need to get to the Xylem in the Cambium
or just under the bark of the stem, from where rootlets grow out when cloning
or you can go foilar spray too

Good Luck
 
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Alienwidow

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If anyone cares to see... :)
Its pretty obvious youre new to the site. People save pictures like this and repost them when other people make terrible suggestions. The best part is how haggard the plant looks. Oh and the reason people dont use actual bonzai techniques like wrapping the plant in wire like you have done is because bonzai trees grow very slowly because you restrict the root size. If you wrap weed plants like that, well they grow like weeds and you end up restricting the size of the branch and the plant will envelop the wires if theyre left on. That is a bonzai only technique, not for weed. And injecting things is for intravenous drug use and not weed plants. Riu pro tip, make sure that next time you post a thread on riu that you arent the only person attempting what you thought up....... while medicated.
 

Jodon

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Its pretty obvious youre new to the site. People save pictures like this and repost them when other people make terrible suggestions. The best part is how haggard the plant looks. Oh and the reason people dont use actual bonzai techniques like wrapping the plant in wire like you have done is because bonzai trees grow very slowly because you restrict the root size. If you wrap weed plants like that, well they grow like weeds and you end up restricting the size of the branch and the plant will envelop the wires if theyre left on. That is a bonzai only technique, not for weed. And injecting things is for intravenous drug use and not weed plants. Riu pro tip, make sure that next time you post a thread on riu that you arent the only person attempting what you thought up....... while medicated.
You say the reason people don't use bonsai techniques like you know for a fact nobody does lol. It's great for a beatiful mother if you don't want to waste a lot of space. You didn't even ask wht I did there just assumed I did it to bonsai. My idea
behind her was to top every single top, then when the new nodes grew to a decent size maybe 3 inches each, then cut at the plant. End up with a nice plant ready for main lining. Mama that your seeing got too close to the light.
 

Alienwidow

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You say the reason people don't use bonsai techniques like you know for a fact nobody does lol. It's great for a beatiful mother if you don't want to waste a lot of space. You didn't even ask wht I did there just assumed I did it to bonsai. My idea
behind her was to top every single top, then when the new nodes grew to a decent size maybe 3 inches each, then cut at the plant. End up with a nice plant ready for main lining. Mama that your seeing got too close to the light.
I dont have to ask why you did it. I know. Youre training the plant....the wrong way. Thats what im trying to point out. Theres right ways and wrong ways to train a plant. Youve got some pretty strange ideas kiddo. How many grows have you got under your belt? Just wondering? Im guessing under five because youre trying to reinvent the wheel. After a handfull of grows you realize theres no magic that will help your yeild. Theres a right way and a wrong way. Do it right and you can get the max potential out of it. Try and reinvent growing and outsmart the plant and youll just screw everything up . Youll figure it out.
 
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