here we go again. Every time... The only thing almost everyone agrees with is the Mars is total garbage period.you can grow bud with an incandescent bulb or even a glow stick - but why waste the time and money?
then you have the mars employees, mars sponsored 'growers', and the guys that think $100-XyZ is a ton of money and they need to urgently justify to themselves and the world why they spent so much and made a bad choice.
just run away when somebody posts their mars crop pictures and doesn't feel disgusted. They are often happy with what other growers would feel is a failure. It's like bragging you lost your virginity when a 80 year old prostitute fingered your bum.
And it's idiots like you that probably criticize teenagers spending 5000 dollars on their very first car learning to drive, for not going out and buying a brand new 50,000 dollar car.
It's the same damn thing. Something you haters seem to constantly forget, the cost of a good cob setup, is 4-5x the cost of a mars.
Did it EVER occur to you that many people simply can't afford or don't want to spend a ton of money of lights?
So if a new grower just trying to learn and can only start off with a low budget, small setup, are you seriously going to sit there and criticize them for using a 70 dollar light instead of a 500 dollar cob? If so, then you can just find another forum to troll with your bullshit ignorance.
Now go, "Run away" and a be a helpless shithead somewhere else. Thanks!