High power COB -vs- hps vertical shoot out

ttystikk

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But you know thats not true. No ones cooking terpenes off plants. And in 5 years there will be more single ended bulbs on the market then ever before.
You know what? I'm going to take the word of an employee at Colorado's largest concentrated maker over yours.

Everyone knows there's more terps under LED.
 

a mongo frog

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You know what? I'm going to take the word of an employee at Colorado's largest concentrated maker over yours.

Everyone knows there's more terps under LED.
Well where are your lab results and where are everyone else's. You've seen Genes you've seen Captains you've seen mine. But everyones talking all this myth and theory with out their own lab results. But wait!!!!!!! There's the far red thread!!!!!! With no lab results. So no everyone doesn't know LED produces more of anything. LED is a great fixture, it has not shown to beat HPS in any lab testesting. I take that back genes blue dream i think test slightly slightly hire under his LED, i may be wrong on that i don't remember.
 

ttystikk

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Well where are your lab results and where are everyone else's. You've seen Genes you've seen Captains you've seen mine. But everyones talking all this myth and theory with out their own lab results. But wait!!!!!!! There's the far red thread!!!!!! With no lab results. So no everyone doesn't know LED produces more of anything. LED is a great fixture, it has not shown to beat HPS in any lab testesting. I take that back genes blue dream i think test slightly slightly hire under his LED, i may be wrong on that i don't remember.
Fair enough, mine IS anecdotal- yet very widely shared by those who would be in positron to know and there's good reason underlying it. HID makes the plants hotter and reduces terpenes or evaporates some of them, no one is sure about the whole process. The results are unequivocal, so I agree; testing should be done.

Until it is, I'm again going to believe those who do it every day, for a living, in large quantities over the tent pros.
 

a mongo frog

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Fair enough, mine IS anecdotal- yet very widely shared by those who would be in positron to know and there's good reason underlying it. HID makes the plants hotter and reduces terpenes or evaporates some of them, no one is sure about the whole process. The results are unequivocal, so I agree; testing should be done.

Until it is, I'm again going to believe those who do it every day, for a living, in large quantities over the tent pros.
Im not sure what you mean by tent pro. The tent pros on here are all testing out cob fixtures doing great things. Surely thats not a bad thing.
 

ttystikk

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It's not 800W! It's 588W!
We have two different grows getting mixed up here.

@REALSTYLES said he's pulled two from 800W of COB LED.

The light made by the OP hasn't been seen by anyone but him. We are guessing by the description that it's not putting out what it should, but again, no one seems quite sure. I think we need to make certain he's getting the light he wants and then see about the test.
 

Joedank

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Five, tops. By then, COB LED will no longer be unknown country and everyone will be wondering wtf we old timers were thinking while we cooked the terpenes off our plants with hot lights! LOL

It's my gift and my job to see into the technological future. Am I saying that no one will use them at all anymore? Nope! Didn't say that! After all, there's still guys spinning vinyl records out there...
did you own a mini- disc player ?
i kid i kid ...
what ever happened to kind loves(i think) stacked warehouse of leds??? i wonder if they still use that shizzle..?
 

StashToker

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I wouldn't recommend anyone buy a HID light at this time, due to the fact that in 4 years they will have to be 200% more efficient or be outlawed. Today there were reports of police at Fort Collins Colorado, going to grows and demanding growers replace 1k HPS with more efficient units.
And I currently use 1000 HPSs.
 

a mongo frog

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I wouldn't recommend anyone buy a HID light at this time, due to the fact that in 4 years they will have to be 200% more efficient or be outlawed. Today there were reports of police at Fort Collins Colorado, going to grows and demanding growers replace 1k HPS with more efficient units.
And I currently use 1000 HPSs.
Pretty sure they raided today. Can you show us where they were demanding this replacement today?
 

StashToker

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The Dude Grows show on youtube is where I heard this. Also a few people discussing it on instagram, but no I cannot find a news article about it. Sorry.
 

ttystikk

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Being a Ft Collins resident, perhaps I can help offer some clarity; there's a local ordinance against running HID lighting in multi family dwellings due to risk of fire.

Florescent and LED lighting is fine, because less risk of fire.

College kids love to ignore safety warnings, so they probably got a knock and talk.

Not knowing any details of this specific incident and therefore I'm merely hazarding an educated guess, it sounds like this ordinance being enforced.
 

420producer

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Well the set up for a flip is easy... it's a double pole, double throw relay. They are like 9 or 10 on ebay but I have only used the bigger 40 amp jobs for my hps set up.
I'm wondering if you could use "cube" relays. They are much smaller and cheaper, still lookin for a multi cube kind of deal...

I don't see anyway around not having 160 relays for a 40 light flip... there would be 160 ballasts..

Still wayyyyy cheaper than buying an extra set of 160 ballasts though. If I buy gear I want that shit to run 24/7. Not 12 hours a day.
have you looked into those nanolux 1000 watt flip ballast?
 
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