Before & After pics .... Ouch

fdd2blk

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k, now i'm confused. i read in growfaq to prune fan leaves on the main stem midway through veg. i did that when i topped and ended up very happy with 10 colas at the top of the canopy of each plant (pic). and this was done wrong how??
trim the lower third to increase upper growth. but not the whole plant. :mrgreen: IMG_6352.jpg IMG_6630.jpg
 

Florida Girl

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Quebec.... on a positive note..... your plants were BEAUTIFUL before you butchered them.... so well done!!!!

Apparently you have a green thumb so good luck and next time..... take the advice from the others here and don't cut those leaves :D
 

fdd2blk

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Quebec.... on a positive note..... your plants were BEAUTIFUL before you butchered them.... so well done!!!!

Apparently you have a green thumb so good luck and next time..... take the advice from the others here and don't cut those leaves :D
he's getting beat up here and now he will tell his friends and they will argue and beat him up some more. poor guy. plants looked beautiful. i'd put them back into veg for 2 weeks to save them. :blsmoke::peace:
 

desertrat

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trim the lower third to increase upper growth. but not the whole plant.
warning: slow learner here, patience appreciated. that said -is there not another valid pruning theory?

from growfaq =
How do I prune to increase production?


I start by pruning a leaf from each node in a staircase pattern, as soon as the first 5 bladed leaf appears. This will stimulate lateral growth and open the plant to more light.

I top around the 4-5 node, using the FIM technique, leaving about 20% of the growth tip intact. Topping will create at least 2 new budding sites, and with proper use of the FIM technique I have had as many as 5, and have heard of as many as 8. Topping will allow bottom branches time to grow and catch up, making them closer to the lights

- that's what i did and that's what's happened. that said, fdd clearly has the experience and results his way, just wondering if this approach is as good or maybe suited to different strains or circumstances.
 

fdd2blk

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warning: slow learner here, patience appreciated. that said -is there not another valid pruning theory?

from growfaq =
How do I prune to increase production?


I start by pruning a leaf from each node in a staircase pattern, as soon as the first 5 bladed leaf appears. This will stimulate lateral growth and open the plant to more light.

I top around the 4-5 node, using the FIM technique, leaving about 20% of the growth tip intact. Topping will create at least 2 new budding sites, and with proper use of the FIM technique I have had as many as 5, and have heard of as many as 8. Topping will allow bottom branches time to grow and catch up, making them closer to the lights

- that's what i did and that's what's happened. that said, fdd clearly has the experience and results his way, just wondering if this approach is as good or maybe suited to different strains or circumstances.

topping and fimming is good. removal of any healthy leaves to help increase growth is nonsense. :mrgreen::peace:

the leaves that "are blocking light" are actually "catching light" and turning it into energy. each leaf feeds the branches that it's attached to. the big fan leaves come out first to give energy to the new side branches. the plant needs leaves to grow.
 

desertrat

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each leaf feeds the branches that it's attached to. .
i WILL prove i'm the slowest learner on dui - but - isn't one theory behind pruning to slow the growth of one part of the plant and enhance the growth elsewhere?? when i cut half the fan leaves on the main branch only it slows that growth and speeds the growth of the side branches. if you combine this with topping you get a bushier plant.

are you saying that the benefit of multiple colas is not worth the stress to the plant?
or that there is no benefit to multiple colas (10 smaller colas less than one big one)?

to be clear,i am not saying you do this to increase light to the bottom branches, which i also think is stupid.
 

fdd2blk

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i WILL prove i'm the slowest learner on dui - but - isn't one theory behind pruning to slow the growth of one part of the plant and enhance the growth elsewhere?? when i cut half the fan leaves on the main branch only it slows that growth and speeds the growth of the side branches. if you combine this with topping you get a bushier plant.

are you saying that the benefit of multiple colas is not worth the stress to the plant?
or that there is no benefit to multiple colas (10 smaller colas less than one big one)?

to be clear,i am not saying you do this to increase light to the bottom branches, which i also think is stupid.
i understand your thinking. i would call this "advanced". i get what you are doing and it appears you understand as well. i have never tried this technique but i could see how it would work. you may need more veg time but it's worth the extra buds.
 

Quebec Big Dog

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Just to clear something with you guys, I didn't want to do this !
BUT my friend was very convincing and he is the one who sold me the clones. He said if my yield sucks that my next batch will be free and with this strain they go from 4 inch clones too 20 inch plants in 15 days So I am not risking much other than electricity.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Just to clear something with you guys, I didn't want to do this !
BUT my friend was very convincing and he is the one who sold me the clones. He said if my yield sucks that my next batch will be free and with this strain they go from 4 inch clones too 20 inch plants in 15 days So I am not risking much other than electricity.


Just say NO !!!

Just because he sold you the clones does not make them his plants. Next time just firmly state that you would like to grow your plants your way.
 

Londoner

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topping and fimming is good. removal of any healthy leaves to help increase growth is nonsense. :mrgreen::peace:

the leaves that "are blocking light" are actually "catching light" and turning it into energy. each leaf feeds the branches that it's attached to. the big fan leaves come out first to give energy to the new side branches. the plant needs leaves to grow.
couldnt agree more, in my newbie days i always removed all the fan leaves after reading somewhere this was the done thing to do and could never understand why my nugs were small come harvest time, until i was looking at my plants one day 6wks into 12/12 trying to think what was wrong and i saw it, there was one fan leaf left that had escaped my scissors on one plant and the bud on that side of the node with the fan leaf still attached was twice the size of all the other buds, ive never removed a green leaf and always had decent buds ever since. only time i remove leaves is when they are ready to come off by themselves and come off with the gentlist pull. just another example of bad cultivation information out there.
 

doobiedo

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this would be an excellent experiment that could be used in growfaqs. i love these types of threads!!!!:joint:
 
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