Weishen1121
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lol
Could it be over or under watering? High placement of rockwool?
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Slab
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I have seen leaves come back to green that have looked worse.
How did the discoloration originate ?
I would not increase food until I see signs of nitrogen def. that doesn't look like it.
I would run clones 10-15 % strength. Not sure what your 25% is.
I have had great sucess in hydro, with very agressive feeding and the Lucas method.
Environment , ( res temp, ambient temp) is paramount.
I would be concerned with your space shuttle heat Shields trapping heat in the bucket
How did the discoloration originate ?
I would not increase food until I see signs of nitrogen def. that doesn't look like it.
I would run clones 10-15 % strength. Not sure what your 25% is.
I have had great sucess in hydro, with very agressive feeding and the Lucas method.
Environment , ( res temp, ambient temp) is paramount.
I would be concerned with your space shuttle heat Shields trapping heat in the bucket
Weishen1121
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I noticed some small white/yellow spots on the leaves maybe 2 or 3 days in. It just got bigger and bigger, maybe some water splashed on those and burnt them?
And I might reduce the nutes today then.. I'll try to do a little less than 1/4 str per gallon.
My res temp is fine.. it's usually around 22-23 c which is around 74 at most I think.
The ambient temp is prob not the best.. nights are fine with 73-76 but days can get up to 80+ but it's really weird because the exhaust air and the air inside the tent don't even seem that hot... I can literally put my hand on the glass shield of the hood and hold it there forever..
and I got the idea from other growers, I thought the foil would reflect the light back and keep heat out.. should I really replace them?
And I might reduce the nutes today then.. I'll try to do a little less than 1/4 str per gallon.
My res temp is fine.. it's usually around 22-23 c which is around 74 at most I think.
The ambient temp is prob not the best.. nights are fine with 73-76 but days can get up to 80+ but it's really weird because the exhaust air and the air inside the tent don't even seem that hot... I can literally put my hand on the glass shield of the hood and hold it there forever..
and I got the idea from other growers, I thought the foil would reflect the light back and keep heat out.. should I really replace them?
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Slab
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If it was splash don't think it would spread.
The underside of leaves are fragile, tinfoil is known to create hot spots and trap heat.
Light out is your opportunity to get temps down, tin foil hinders that. Think how well it keeps food warm.
That res temp is at or near maximum.
What nutrients are you using?
5% Stength foliar feed, That has some cal/ mag is what I would test on that leaf that is discolored.
polish made a great point about hand fielding the rockwool until your girls grow some legs.
What is the root development looking like?
The underside of leaves are fragile, tinfoil is known to create hot spots and trap heat.
Light out is your opportunity to get temps down, tin foil hinders that. Think how well it keeps food warm.
That res temp is at or near maximum.
What nutrients are you using?
5% Stength foliar feed, That has some cal/ mag is what I would test on that leaf that is discolored.
polish made a great point about hand fielding the rockwool until your girls grow some legs.
What is the root development looking like?
Weishen1121
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OK thank you again man great to know. I bought two brand new black 5 gallon buckets and re-did the buckets again. Made some small improvements too!
Also got all that foil off the netpot.. that was prob the hardest part lmao
I'm using General Hydroponics Flora Series. w/ Recirculating Nutrient Schedule
Also got some Cal Mag earlier tonight which I started using tonight w/ new 1/4 str nutes.
Bubba is @ 5.66pH/363ppm and Kens is @ 5.57pH/440pm.
I was feeding them about a cup of their res once a day but the roots are doing really good now!!
Got some yellow sticky traps coming in tomorrow and also some AzaMax just in case.
Also I have been going 24 hours lights on all the time.. I was thinking about 18/6 but read better things about 24. What is your suggestion?
Also got all that foil off the netpot.. that was prob the hardest part lmao
I'm using General Hydroponics Flora Series. w/ Recirculating Nutrient Schedule
Also got some Cal Mag earlier tonight which I started using tonight w/ new 1/4 str nutes.
Bubba is @ 5.66pH/363ppm and Kens is @ 5.57pH/440pm.
I was feeding them about a cup of their res once a day but the roots are doing really good now!!
Got some yellow sticky traps coming in tomorrow and also some AzaMax just in case.
Also I have been going 24 hours lights on all the time.. I was thinking about 18/6 but read better things about 24. What is your suggestion?
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Weishen1121
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Looks like some magnesium deficiency.. did 1/4 str nutes because I was worried but I think it's time to go at least 1/2 str
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polishpollack
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18/6.
ph more like 5.75-6.5.
probably raise that ppm to 600 or so.
ph more like 5.75-6.5.
probably raise that ppm to 600 or so.
Weishen1121
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cool thank you! will kill the lights around 11am till 5pm, prob the highest temps of the day
and will make new 1/2str nute mix which should bring ppm up to 600-700.
and will make new 1/2str nute mix which should bring ppm up to 600-700.
polishpollack
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continue with the cup pour until the roots are well-established in the water.
SPLFreak808
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The plant still has osmotic pressure, the stems are still pointing up. Its got water somewhat
polishpollack
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not really water I'm concerned about.
Weishen1121
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hm roots are in the water already, attached some pics, should I keep top feeding anyways? dont think it would hurt right?
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polishpollack
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keep doing it for a while.
SPLFreak808
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I should have read the thread before replying lol mybad.
Weishen1121
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Ok will be giving them 1 cup of their own res once a day.
prob for like another week? how will I know it's too much? drooping again?
and the bubba seems to be growing pretty nicely, while the kens is kinda short.. I thought it should be the opposite way since the bubba is supposed to be a short fat indica, kens not too sure honestly.
It seems like the bubba is growing up and out while the kens is staying short and growing from beneath, there's a lot of new growth down there.. should I snip those off or would it be too stressful atm?
also was about to put up some of those yellow sticky traps but it kinda smells.. nothing bad but I don't really know if I want to add something like this to my grow room without actually needing it.. seems like chemical addition and I don't see many fungus gnats, maybe like twice within this 11 day period but how safe are these yellow sticky traps? any chemical fumes or anything coming off them?
prob for like another week? how will I know it's too much? drooping again?
and the bubba seems to be growing pretty nicely, while the kens is kinda short.. I thought it should be the opposite way since the bubba is supposed to be a short fat indica, kens not too sure honestly.
It seems like the bubba is growing up and out while the kens is staying short and growing from beneath, there's a lot of new growth down there.. should I snip those off or would it be too stressful atm?
also was about to put up some of those yellow sticky traps but it kinda smells.. nothing bad but I don't really know if I want to add something like this to my grow room without actually needing it.. seems like chemical addition and I don't see many fungus gnats, maybe like twice within this 11 day period but how safe are these yellow sticky traps? any chemical fumes or anything coming off them?
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polishpollack
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don't snip.
put the strips out if you want to. might be a good idea.
a cup of the mix for a long time won't hurt.
are you bubbling in the mix or just recirculating?
put the strips out if you want to. might be a good idea.
a cup of the mix for a long time won't hurt.
are you bubbling in the mix or just recirculating?
Weishen1121
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I got a nice General Hydroponics Dual Diaphragm Air Pump w/ 2 large airstones sitting up right in each bucket. Should be tons of bubbling going on.
http://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Dual-Diaphragm-Pump/dp/B008UF9XLY?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages02
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-ASCL-Large-Active-Cylinder/dp/B00564IT5S?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s03
I noticed the lower leaves are getting a bit better since watering them too.. great idea man thank you.
I'm thinking of using some Hydroguard too.. the black buckets are still about 23c and I read its really not supposed to pass 22..
http://www.amazon.com/Botanicare-Hydroguard-Bacillus-Inoculant-1-Quart/dp/B00IGFH25M?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
http://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Dual-Diaphragm-Pump/dp/B008UF9XLY?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages02
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrofarm-ASCL-Large-Active-Cylinder/dp/B00564IT5S?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s03
I noticed the lower leaves are getting a bit better since watering them too.. great idea man thank you.
I'm thinking of using some Hydroguard too.. the black buckets are still about 23c and I read its really not supposed to pass 22..
http://www.amazon.com/Botanicare-Hydroguard-Bacillus-Inoculant-1-Quart/dp/B00IGFH25M?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
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polishpollack
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might be a good idea.
I like threads where someone is having a problem because I learn more from it that someone who has a flawless grow.
Been thinking about doing a DWC Scrog, thanks for sharing your grow with us bro, once you get things dialed in I think you're going to be growing great plants, you definitely seem dedicated.
Been thinking about doing a DWC Scrog, thanks for sharing your grow with us bro, once you get things dialed in I think you're going to be growing great plants, you definitely seem dedicated.