Stomper420
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Can I and or should I use both rock rsn8 and cha ching on the same batch. Stagger them, or mix. I'm in soil, ffof. Thanks.
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budman111
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What is the NPK ratios of each bottle?
Stomper420
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Rock is 0 7 8 and cha ching is 9 50 10
OG Gardenz
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cha ching is phosphorus and potassium with food color. I use the individual soluble elements and make my own bloom booster. For resin and terp production I use soluble Fulvic Acid which contains ample iron. From what I understand these are the two main elements that contribute to oil and terps.
MisterBlah
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Cha Ching is not just phosphorus and potassium. There's a nice big 9 in the spot reserved for total nitrogen. It also contains a bunch of your micronutrients. The thing about Cha Ching is that it is a very high phosphorus fertilizer. Which is about the opposite of what you want when growing cut flower plants like cannabis.
Fulvic acid does not contain iron.
Humates such as Fulvic acid have a chelating effect on plant nutrients, particularly iron, and have the effect of improving absorption. Thereby, it improves iron absorption, but does not contain iron.
Fulvic acid does not contain iron.
Humates such as Fulvic acid have a chelating effect on plant nutrients, particularly iron, and have the effect of improving absorption. Thereby, it improves iron absorption, but does not contain iron.
OG Gardenz
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Agreed on a few of your statements, except there are certainly Fulvic Acid products that have ample soluble iron. RAW solubles FullUp for example, and there are plenty others.
MisterBlah
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Except Fullup isn't a Fulvic acid product. It's peat moss.
And if there is iron in a product, it's added in addition to the fulvic acid.
Stomper420
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Ok, so can I use both together or separate or just one or ghe other without over doing it
MisterBlah
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I'm sorry, I know I didn't answer your question.
A PK additive like RSN8 will do you better for an improvement in flower. What I would do is look for any fertilizer that has a high number in the P and K slots, so like a 0-7-8 or like a 0-10-10 or even better, just monopotassium phosphate(MKP), which is 0-51-34. MKP will be the cheapest.
If you use RSN8, follow the directions on the bottle.
If you use an MKP(monopotassium phosphate), add a 1/4 teaspoon per gallon to start off with and you should see some noticable results.
If you want to increase your potassium even more, use a sulfate of potash fertilizer, also called SOP or potassium sulfate. Again, add 1/4 teaspoon per gallon.
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OG Gardenz
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I'm afraid you are incorrect... FullUp is derived from peat and peat is a well known source of Humates. Fulvic acid is a kind of Humic Acid. The amber color is a good indicator of the iron content and the kind of humic that it is.
MisterBlah
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I didn't necessarily mean there isn't fulvic acid in it. So, if that was your interpreted, I apologize. I know humates are in all decaying organic material, peat moss included. I know fulvic acid is a humic acid, the lightest humic acid.
What I consider a fulvic/humic acid product is a purer product that just peat moss. 55%-90% humates. I know I didn't make that clear, so I apologize.
Medizzinman
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I used bud factor x on my blueberry girl. She is noticeably sticker and more resiny than previous run. I used it a full strength from week 3 to 8 bloom.
Phytium hater
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Hi, I am using first time as a finisher with Canna Coco A+B Advanced Nutrients Overdrive + Bud Factor X and I am very pleased so far..the Bud Factor I just added on week 7 ...so I wonder if there would be any help to add some Nitrozyme from Growth Technology ?