Light ???

[Slab]

65 in hydro. But listen to tystick for your soil.


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I use 50 % perlite and stategically placed lava rocks in my pots.
300% improvement in yeild and flavor profile improvements I am not at liberty to disclose.

Coincidently the same temperature as the ground. 65.

I am far beyond novice guys, so please keep that in mind when lending a hand XD

 

[kmog33]

I use 50 % perlite and stategically placed lava rocks in my pots.
300% improvement in yeild and flavor profile improvements I am not at liberty to disclose.

Coincidently the same temperature as the ground. 65.

I am far beyond novice guys, so please keep that in mind when lending a hand XD

We're just answering the questions you asked lol. If you didn't need any help/info, you shouldn't have asked in the first place.


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[Slab]

We're just answering the questions you asked lol. If you didn't need any help/info, you shouldn't have asked in the first place.


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My question was yes or no and a topic for discussion.

 

[kmog33]

My question was yes or no and a topic for discussion.

The root zone temps were mentioned earlier in the thread.

Does that have any effect on the oxygen available in the water that's in the soil?

Yes in the water, not in the soil. If you were in dwc there would be a bigger effect, by in soil there is generally enough oxygen in the air. Lol. High Roots temps will cause problems that don't have to do with the amount of oxygen available in your water/available to be absorbed by your roots at all, much more so than effecting the amount of oxygen in the water itself.

Thanks for the reply, not a concern for me having root zone to hot. Room never goes above 85.

More interested in enrichment and knowing if the roots absorb oxygen from the water in soil. Pretty sure it does.

Wanted to add 65 degrees replicates outdoor subterranean root zone temps,
We call it hells ice box

I'd suggest water around 75F for good metabolism. Root oxygenation is best influenced by using substrates that drain well, thereby pulling fresh air in as they do.

65 in hydro. But listen to tystick for your soil.


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Here are the responses in answer to your initial question and follow ups.

In the end, you state you're not a novice and didn't need any of the info you yourself asked about.

Not to be a dick, but what is the point of asking a question and then disregarding the answers because you obviously already know better? As the ground is 65 in one climate, that must be the right way to go with all plants in all environments yeah?

Here's some links to how water temps affect nutrient uptake etc, so you can read about it as your inquisition seems to be ineffective with the responses you've received.

http://lib.dr.iastate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=11951&context=rtd

http://maximumyield.com/blog/2012/08/01/water-and-nutrient-uptake-by-roots/

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02374326


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[whitebb2727]

We know that cannabis thrives outdoors where it's root zone is 65 degrees.
The temp of the water is the same.

Maybe that should be another thread topic. I'm here in this thread to talk about light not root temp.

 

[Slab]

Maybe that should be another thread topic. I'm here in this thread to talk about light not root temp.

Understood, I read it here from the OP and broached to get understanding and confirmation for his reasons. That is not hijacking. Can't help if others picked up the ball and ran.

 

[Slab]

Here are the responses in answer to your initial question and follow ups.

In the end, you state you're not a novice and didn't need any of the info you yourself asked about.

Not to be a dick, but what is the point of asking a question and then disregarding the answers because you obviously already know better? As the ground is 65 in one climate, that must be the right way to go with all plants in all environments yeah?

Here's some links to how water temps affect nutrient uptake etc, so you can read about it as your inquisition seems to be ineffective with the responses you've received.

http://lib.dr.iastate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=11951&context=rtd

http://maximumyield.com/blog/2012/08/01/water-and-nutrient-uptake-by-roots/

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02374326


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I am sure it was not your intention to be insulting to me offering me basic information that I did not request of you. And I find your sarcasm annoying and impressive at the same time. If you are going to chime in , offer me more than common knowledge is what I asked.
That did not deter you from again offering me basic information. You can NOT relay Riddles personal reasons for his root zone temp. Not sure why you did in the first place other than the enjoyment of sharing knowledge which I thank you for. Just asked for it to be above the basics it perhaps to cheeky of a way for you.

 

[Slab]

Maybe that should be another thread topic. I'm here in this thread to talk about light not root temp.

I own 430 watter very rare , turn it on makes you feel like your in an old timey topless bar.

 

[kmog33]

I am sure it was not your intention to be insulting to me offering me basic information that I did not request of you. And I find your sarcasm annoying and impressive at the same time. If you are going to chime in , offer me more than common knowledge is what I asked.
That did not deter you from again offering me basic information. You can NOT relay Riddles personal reasons for his root zone temp. Not sure why you did in the first place other than the enjoyment of sharing knowledge which I thank you for. Just asked for it to be above the basics it perhaps to cheeky of a way for you.

Then the issue may have been more with your question than the answers you got. As a couple of us responded the same way. The fact that you asked for basic info (a yes or no question) and then expected to be given a science lecture on root temps/water and the effects there is baffling. But I realized that you wanted to actually learn something so I linked you to where you can read about it as none of your posts were on the topic of the thread.

Then, you go blaming the two guys that responded to your questions (that were not very specific) to help you out when you got called out for it.

1. Ask questions that specify what you actually want to know, not a yes or no question you expect a substantial answer out of.

2. Don't act like you know what you're talking about saying you're experienced, when the questions you asked in the first place as well as your ability to take the responses was seemingly insufficient.

3. Most of my posts have not been sarcastic, I just have a habit of calling out miscommunication based on poor choice of given info in the first place.

Assess what you want from the situation and choose there to ask about.

Don't come in asking if a effects b, and expect to get detailed descriptions of X,y and z. It just doesn't make sense.

I didn't respond to your post blaming ty and I for derailing the thread when we answered your posts because it just pushes further off topic, but don't quote me and keep the thread off topic because you asked the wrong question, and didn't like the legitimate answers you got to the questions you did, in fact, ask.




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[Doogan]

No way, I am piqued about getting the root zone down to 65 though.

Temperatures above 30C (86F), there was an uncoupling between the instantaneous respiration rate and bacterial and fungal activity. At these high temperatures, the respiration rate closely followed the Arrhenius temperature relationship. {as high as 45C (113F) Between 65-76 degrees F. At this range the conditions are optimal for the various chemical processes. Lower temperatures will stunt the root growth while higher temps dehydrate the roots and may cook them.

 

[kmog33]

So are you not reading my post because it's long and a waste of time or...?

I already quoted your posts and the responses to them, you can read back a few posts if you want, but this is a waste of time.

Considering what you said you were going to do vs the 4 quotes I've gotten from you now regarding my last post, I'm assuming you're exactly the "beating a dead horse" type that you said you were hoping I was not.

If you want me to go through your posts again and break them down, I can. But it's not going to get better from your sides perspective and at this point your inability to comprehend/articulate your own questions intelligently is just making you upset (seems like anyway) and pushing the thread further off topic.


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[Slab]

So are you not reading my post because it's long and a waste of time or...?

I already quoted your posts and the responses to them, you can read back a few posts if you want, but this is a waste of time.

Considering what you said you were going to do vs the 4 quotes I've gotten from you now regarding my last post, I'm assuming you're exactly the "beating a dead horse" type that you said you were hoping I was not.

If you want me to go through your posts again and break them down, I can. But it's not going to get better from your sides perspective and at this point your inability to comprehend your own questions is just making you upset (seems like anyway) and pushing the thread further off topic.


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i believe you to be a bit of nutter

 

[kmog33]

i believe you to be a bit of nutter

Hey, at least I articulate my questions in a way that gets across the info I'm looking for.

I also don't blame other people for derailing a thread when I get called out for it or say I'm not going to read someone's comment to me and precede to quote it 5 times.


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[Resinhound]

Hey, at least I articulate my questions in a way that gets across the info I'm looking for.

I also don't blame other people for derailing a thread when I get called out for it or say I'm not going to read someone's comment to me and precede to quote it 5 times.


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Hey man he's not a novice, stop answering his questions... He doesn't need your simple answers man.

We need to get Steven Hawkening in here to answer this shiz...

 

[Slab]

Hey, at least I articulate my questions in a way that gets across the info I'm looking for.

I also don't blame other people for derailing a thread when I get called out for it or say I'm not going to read someone's comment to me and precede to quote it 5 times.


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That is the impression you get and I am not known as an idiot to most.

You blurting out the correct temp for hydro gives me a good chuckle now.

My " question" related to riddles experience, you derailed that by offering me info I didn't need or ask for.

 

[kmog33]

Hey man he's not a novice, stop answering his questions... He doesn't need your simple answers man.

We need to get Steven Hawkening in here to answer this shiz...

There's only so many times I can break down what's wrong with the same point. Lol.

Am I missing something? Did he not ask a yes or no question about water and root temps?


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[Slab]

Hey man he's not a novice, stop answering his questions... He doesn't need your simple answers man.

We need to get Steven Hawkening in here to answer this shiz...

Yeah bring on that cyber bullying and peer pecking. You want some numbers for some my exes?

 

[Slab]

There's only so many times I can break down what's wrong with the same point. Lol.

Am I missing something? Did he not ask a yes or no question about water and root temps?


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Am

There's only so many times I can break down what's wrong with the same point. Lol.

Am I missing something? Did he not ask a yes or no question about water and root temps?


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Slab said: ↑


Does that have any effect on the oxygen available in the water that's in the soil?
That was my question you trolling parrot

 

[kmog33]

That is the impression you get and I am not known as an idiot to most.

You blurting out the correct temp for hydro gives me a good chuckle now.

My " question" related to riddles experience, you derailed that by offering me info I didn't need or ask for.

You may know be "known" to be an idiot. But you definitely look like one ATM.

The root zone temps were mentioned earlier in the thread.

Does that have any effect on the oxygen available in the water that's in the soil?

is this not a yes or no question? Is there any more asked here then whether or not a affects b?

Yes in the water, not in the soil. If you were in dwc there would be a bigger effect, by in soil there is generally enough oxygen in the air. Lol. High Roots temps will cause problems that don't have to do with the amount of oxygen available in your water/available to be absorbed by your roots at all, much more so than effecting the amount of oxygen in the water itself.

Does this response not only answer your question with a yes and no, but go on to explain a bit about the situation and how the effects vary in different scenarios...?


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[kmog33]

That's not even going into the fact that ty continued to Ellaborate.

You should maybe jut drop it.


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