Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..

[Dr.Pecker]

If the world was flat we should be able to see all the star constellations from any given point but we cant. The stars in the two hemispheres are completely different. I swear I'm going to start the oblate spheroid movement.

 

[reddan1981]

In your view, what are the main differences between Hegel's dialectic and plain old debate? Also, above it suggests stepping outside the dialectic, what do you think are possible alternatives?

Great questions. 'Plain old debate' could be interpreted any number of ways, and is not specific to any single method of argument, which leaves me unable to point differences, however Hegel explained a process where truth is instead arrived through the friction and conflict between one force (the thesis) and its opposite (the antithesis). The final result from that clash, the synthesis, is (in his opinion) the best conclusion.
In all likelihood, the synthesis is not the final and absolute truth. It becomes the new thesis where a new antithesis forms to oppose it. The conflict between them leads to a second synthesis. This process repeats until the final synthesis is revealed, which theoretically is absolute truth. In plain terms, the Hegelian Dialectic is the battle of two extremes to get a result that is somewhere in the middle. I personally like use the Aristotelian method for arriving at truth, which is to observe all the facts of the situation and then make the most logical conclusion based from those observations.
In my opinion there is no FACTUAL basis that "social evolution of the species" exists. So Hegelian-Marxist thinking that suggests societies can evolve spiritually by constant conflict -reaction -solution is baseless. Furthermore I believe there are more effective strategies to steer societies (by effective I obviously mean humane). But to understand them you need to 'think outside the box', which I don't think you are capable of just yet. Which is not a disguised insult, just a nod to the hold that the subject of logical fallacies has over your critical thinking.

 

[WeedFreak78]

What if we settle on calling it a icosahedron? Flat earthers get their flat spots, but we're still round!

 

[Gary Goodson]

What if we settle on calling it a icosahedron? Flat earthers get their flat spots, but we're still round!

Lol

 

[Mellowman2112]

Its not a desert.

What was that show with the earth in high definition on discovery?

Anyways, that is the seasons you are watching. Come spring you will see it turn green again.

Look at North America, the two balls, ( not spheroids) are the same size but North America magically grew by a third. Presented with the obvious lie you still choose to believe. Both of those photos were claimed as real by NASA. So, logic would say that they are liars.
To bad they don't teach critical thinking at school.

 

[Mellowman2112]

Lol

It's just as believable as the spheroid nonsense.

 

[whitebb2727]

Look at North America, the two balls, ( not spheroids) are the same size but North America magically grew by a third. Presented with the obvious lie you still choose to believe. Both of those photos were claimed as real by NASA. So, logic would say that they are liars.
To bad they don't teach critical thinking at school.

It is you that lacks critical thinking.

Ummm? Does the north not freeze then thaw according g to season?

Water can be a liquid, gas, or solid.

When it freezes to a solid it expands.

What did I say it was due to? The seasons are responsible for the size and color.

Go buy a damn $100 telescope you guys that think the earth is flat. You can look and see other plants and that they are round. With a good one you can see the rings on planets and see how they are a sphere.

Geese man.

 

[Mellowman2112]

So, is the Earth flat or what???

It's definately stationary. See in the video. This man appears to be higher than the space shuttle but you can see the earth does not rotate.

 

[Mellowman2112]

It is you that lacks critical thinking.

Ummm? Does the north not freeze then thaw according g to season?

Water can be a liquid, gas, or solid.

When it freezes to a solid it expands.

What did I say it was due to? The seasons are responsible for the size and color.

Go buy a damn $100 telescope you guys that think the earth is flat. You can look and see other plants and that they are round. With a good one you can see the rings on planets and see how they are a sphere.

Geese man.

I was commenting on the two different sizes of North America in the NASA pics. Which one is real? One of them is a lie obviously.
Ergo: NASA lies.

 

[Mellowman2112]

It is you that lacks critical thinking.

Ummm? Does the north not freeze then thaw according g to season?

Water can be a liquid, gas, or solid.

When it freezes to a solid it expands.

What did I say it was due to? The seasons are responsible for the size and color.

Go buy a damn $100 telescope you guys that think the earth is flat. You can look and see other plants and that they are round. With a good one you can see the rings on planets and see how they are a sphere.

Geese man.

So, if you have three women living in your house does that make you a woman? Round bodies in the sky does not mean we live on a round body. Can you see the logic in that statement?

 

[whitebb2727]

So, if you have three women living in your house does that make you a woman? Round bodies in the sky does not mean we live on a round body. Can you see the logic in that statement?

Dude I'm not stupid.

In my time in the military I had some classes that taught about the curvature of the earth.

Simple math.

Also I have seen how the military usese the curvature of the earth to hide troop movements.

 

[Mellowman2112]

The official theory for flat earth about Gravity is that the earths fixed plane is traveling upwards in the universe and that dark energy is what keeps us on the ground.

The example used to help understand this was to imagine yourself in a car that is constantly accelerating, if you try and get up from the seat the cars momentum is what keeps you on the seat.

"In the Flat Earth model, 'gravity', rather than being a force, is the upward acceleration of the Earth. The Earth always accelerates upward at 1g, which is equivalent to the gravitational acceleration in the Round Earth model. Like the force of gravity, the Earth's acceleration causes several commonly observed phenomena in our daily lives."

Sure we can see an object fall to the floor and say oh gravity.

But if gravity is real why is it still called a theory ?

That explanation is from the co opted flat earth society site. They are shills. Gravity actually is not necessary if we are living on a stationary plane. No excuse needs to be invented for why we are not flying off into space as we should if we are spinning at 1000 miles an hour. Every yes but, is answered by this excuse called gravity. Gravity strong enough to hold the massive oceans in yet allow a butterfly to float around. Dare I say it? Yes, I CALL BULLSHIT on this magical gravity theory. It is a fucking fairy tale.

 

[tyler.durden]

It's definately stationary. See in the video. This man appears to be higher than the space shuttle but you can see the earth does not rotate.

Shit, you're back??? Why? That was a rather short hiatus. Please take a longer break, we were really enjoying the peace...

 

[Mellowman2112]

Well fuck...I see a whole thread of flat earth crap from you pea brains and no pictures either.

Show a high altitude pic of the flat disc... immediately!
Not some 'goof' pic either. Now go change your sock.

Here ya go. Notice the local Sun? Notice how the light rays go in all directions? IF the sun were 93000000 miles away the light beams would be paralell.

 

[Mellowman2112]

Shit, you're back??? Why? That was a rather short hiatus. Please take a longer break, we were really enjoying the peace...

Nice word, hiatus. Hiatus, hiatus. I like it.

 

[Mellowman2112]

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If you re pot that I think it should yield heavily. Sweet.

 

[Mellowman2112]

Dude I'm not stupid.

In my time in the military I had some classes that taught about the curvature of the earth.

Simple math.

Also I have seen how the military usese the curvature of the earth to hide troop movements.

Ok, then please explain why the Statue of Liberty can be seen from 60 miles away when it should be hidden by the curvature of the earth? There are hundreds of testimonials of this occurrence.

 

[Mellowman2112]

In 1847 the London Communist League (Karl Marx and Frederick Engels) used Hegel's theory of the dialectic to back up their economic theory of communism. Now, in the 21st century, Hegelian-Marxist thinking affects our entire social and political structure. The Hegelian dialectic is the framework for guiding our thoughts and actions into conflicts that lead us to a predetermined solution. If we do not understand how the Hegelian dialectic shapes our perceptions of the world, then we do not know how we are helping to implement the vision. When we remain locked into dialectical thinking, we cannot see out of the box.

Hegel's dialectic is the tool which manipulates us into a frenzied circular pattern of thought and action. Every time we fight for or defend against an ideology we are playing a necessary role in Marx and Engels' grand design to advance humanity into a dictatorship of the proletariat. The syntheticHegelian solution to all these conflicts can't be introduced unless we all take a side that will advance the agenda. The Marxist's global agenda is moving along at breakneck speed. The only way to completely stop the privacy invasions, expanding domestic police powers, land grabs, insane wars against inanimate objects (and transient verbs), covert actions, and outright assaults on individual liberty, is to step outside the dialectic. This releases us from the limitations of controlled and guided thought.

When we understand what motivated Hegel, we can see his influence on all of our destinies. ... Hegelian conflicts steer every political arena on the planet, from the United Nations to the major American political parties, all the way down to local school boards and community councils. Dialogues and consensus-building are primary tools of the dialectic, and terror and intimidation are also acceptable formats for obtaining the goal. The ultimateThird Way agenda is world government. Once we get what's really going on, we can cut the strings and move our lives in original directions outside the confines of the dialectical madness. Focusing on Hegel's and Engel's ultimate agenda, and avoiding getting caught up in their impenetrable theories ofsocial evolution, gives us the opportunity to think and act our way toward freedom, justice, and genuine liberty for all.

Today the dialectic is active in every political issue that encourages taking sides. We can see it in environmentalists instigating conflicts against private property owners, in democrats against republicans, in greens against libertarians, in communists against socialists, in neo-cons against traditional conservatives, in community activists against individuals, in pro-choice versus pro-life, in Christians against Muslims, in isolationists versus interventionists, in peace activists against war hawks. No matter what the issue, the invisible dialectic aims to control both the conflict and the resolution of differences, and leads everyone involved into a new cycle of conflicts.

This Hegalian dialectic reminds me of good pig bad pig.

 

[Mellowman2112]

Prove to me the earth is round ???? its ironic how people are mis lead listen to video very closely what the astronaut is saying

I agree their photos are laughable, since when does Africa take up an entire half of the Earth? I have to call bullshit again on NASA.

 

[Mellowman2112]

I agree with slipup, the onus is on the ball earthers to prove the earth is round. We have displayed the NASA fraud ad nauseam, Photo's from over 60 miles away showing a city across the lake Michigan, and many other proofs. All we get is terms like gravity and relativity and no proof whatsoever. Prove the earth is round.