Custom led light diy

[Growmau5]

as you can see ive picked some driver s that will prob do the job of running these light how ever i would be running most led above %50 most would be about %75 i supose though i can just dim then to get more life ?

if it were me. I would run the whole thing off of dc-dc drivers.
i would purchase a meanwell ACDC power supply like: one of these pictured.
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1) I would calculated the voltage of all of my strings of leds.
rough calculations:
blue/UV string : 13.5+7+3+3 = 26.5v
white string: 6.4+6.4 = 12.8v
red /amber: 7.2+3+4.6+9.2+25 = 49v ( or 24.5v if divided into 2 strings)
far red: 6.6 =6.6v

2) highest voltage string determines your choice of acdc powersupply. In this case the 24v model is not an option since you have 24.5 & 29v strings
-probably a 36v supply if you go this route. like the Meanwell LRS-150-36 or LRS-200-36

3) Using either a Corallux 5 up board (<--video &product link) or manual soldering, you can use :
uxcell 20 x 24 Pin DIP IC Sockets Adaptor Solder Type Socket 2.54mm Pitch (<--amazon link)
to create your own 4up 5up, or 6up boards

4) Advantages: you will have the ability to PWM control all of your channels with either a Steves led Typhon or Storm controller.
-without a controller, you can easily swap out driver currents using Meanwell LDD-350H,500H,700H,1000H
these are only $6-7 drivers, so you can grab several of a few drive currents and really fine tune your spectrum. or change the spectral output dramatically during different growth phases.

5) disadvantages: xml2s will not be fully utilized at 1000ma which is the max for plug and play LDD, although, there are some new 1500ma LDDs on the market?
driver efficiency, not a massive issue since this build isnt hundreds of watts. you lose a few percent going from AC to DC , then a couple more % thru the LDDs.

Everything considered, I would go this direction personally as insurance in case you change your mind about drive current, or the spectrum you chose. If you make changes to your light down the line, this kind of driver setup will allow easy and cheap expansion.

 

[Growmau5]

edit: sorry for skim reading your post on drivers, then suggesting exactly what you are planning on using. You are on the right track, carry on my friend.

 

[justsmokedope]

ok so im contacrting king bright on alibaba to see if they can supply all my driver aswell as the 100mm glass lenes and 78mm glass lenes too :

going for these drivers most likely:
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3x LDD-1000LW

LED Power Supplies 6-36Vin 2-30V 1000mA Wire DC-DC LED Drver
Mean Well
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4x HLG-40H-54A

LED Power Supplies 40.5W 54V 0.75A IP65 Adj W/Intrl Pot
Mean Well
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Mean Well
1x HLG-240H-C2100A
LED Power Supplies 249.9W59-119V 2100mA IP65 CC adj thru pot
With Dimming will run x 35 xm l2
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2x LDB-500LW
LED Power Supplies 9-30Vin 2-32Vout 500mA wire style
Mean Well
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1x LPF-16D-42P
LED Power Supplies 16.38W 42V 0.39A Dimming LED PS IP67
Mean Well
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3x LDB-600LW
LED Power Supplies 9-28Vin 2-30Vout 600mA wire style
Mean Well
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and these lenses

15x 100mm 80 degree glass lens
and 15x 78mm degree glass lens

will see how much it all comes too ?

the next thing to think about was cooling ive had some ideas about water cooling the cobs with a string of cpu water cooling plates mounted directly the other side of the metal were the leds are attached and then using a pump to pump liquid though a radiator that will be submerged in a water but full of water as this is better than air cooling i beleave also i can use the cooler i have for my under current system i built , that is a glycol bar cooler . also thought it would make the light/s look prittly cool

i also order some of the wago 222-415 5 way connectors as in thought they would make my life easeyer haha

 

[Airwalker16]

I know you already ordered your stuff but keep forward voltage in mind when selecting your drive currents.
eg.

your blues 380-480 typically have a Fv of 3.5v @ 700ma = 2.45 watts per diode
your reds 600-700 typically have a Fv of 2.3v @ 700ma = 1.61 watts per diode (but they can take up to 1000ma)

So choose your currents wisely so you don't end up with a really blue leaning light. And good luck with your build.

Ya you really should just run each color on its own driver allowing you to get the best bright Ness and evenness through out all your diodes.

 

[Airwalker16]

ok so im contacrting king bright on alibaba to see if they can supply all my driver aswell as the 100mm glass lenes and 78mm glass lenes too :

going for these drivers most likely:
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3x LDD-1000LW

LED Power Supplies 6-36Vin 2-30V 1000mA Wire DC-DC LED Drver
Mean Well
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4x HLG-40H-54A

LED Power Supplies 40.5W 54V 0.75A IP65 Adj W/Intrl Pot
Mean Well
-------------------------------
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Mean Well
1x HLG-240H-C2100A
LED Power Supplies 249.9W59-119V 2100mA IP65 CC adj thru pot
With Dimming will run x 35 xm l2
------------------------------------
-----------

2x LDB-500LW
LED Power Supplies 9-30Vin 2-32Vout 500mA wire style
Mean Well
-------------
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1x LPF-16D-42P
LED Power Supplies 16.38W 42V 0.39A Dimming LED PS IP67
Mean Well
-----------------
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3x LDB-600LW
LED Power Supplies 9-28Vin 2-30Vout 600mA wire style
Mean Well
------------------

and these lenses

15x 100mm 80 degree glass lens
and 15x 78mm degree glass lens

will see how much it all comes too ?

the next thing to think about was cooling ive had some ideas about water cooling the cobs with a string of cpu water cooling plates mounted directly the other side of the metal were the leds are attached and then using a pump to pump liquid though a radiator that will be submerged in a water but full of water as this is better than air cooling i beleave also i can use the cooler i have for my under current system i built , that is a glycol bar cooler . also thought it would make the light/s look prittly cool

i also order some of the wago 222-415 5 way connectors as in thought they would make my life easeyer haha

So you plan on putting each mono underneath 78 & 100 mm KB lenses. Interesting. ..

 

[VegasWinner]

this will run most of you 3w leds along with one of these ->http://www.rapidled.com/ldd-h-4-driver-board/ add a 5v power wart to turn the whole thing on/off and you are done. peace

 

[justsmokedope]

ok so quite like the
makersdriver 5up pro as has a fan control that i could use for my water cooling pump but is $62

the lld h4 is loads cheeper im trying to find a board on allibaba but cant find one yet

allibaba is realty confusing to use too never bought stuff on there before

 

[justsmokedope]

alibarba is strange you like chat to the guy via messenger type thing and the he just wacks his paypall email on and tell me how much it is and hadnt even asked for my address yet etc is this normal

 

[justsmokedope]

edit: sorry for skim reading your post on drivers, then suggesting exactly what you are planning on using. You are on the right track, carry on my friend.

ok decided to go with the ldd sugestion i have found a power suply that looks like it will do the job its a
MW RSP-200-36

this was what i was going to use
drivers
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1x LDD-1500L 6 V to 36 V 2 V to 30 V 1200 mA ***
4x LDD-1000H 9 VDC to 56 VDC 2 VDC to 52 VDC 1000 mA ***
6x LDD-700H 9 VDC to 56 VDC 2 VDC to 52 VDC 700 mA ***
2x LDD-500L 9 VDC to 36 VDC 2 VDC to 32 VDC 500 mA ***
1x LDD-600H 9 VDC to 56 VDC 2 VDC to 52 VDC 600 mA ***

1x HLG-240H-C2100A LED Power Supplies 249.9W59-119V 2100mA IP65 CC adj thru pot****

power supply
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3x mean well SE-350-36 --cant find this on https://www.reichelt.com but found everything else

do i only need to be concerned with the voltage in my case that its 36v , do i need to be concerned about anything else like current etc as ive found similar power supplies to what you suggested but they all seem to have different currents etc

 

[justsmokedope]

ok power supply i found is
MW RSP-200-36 Switching power supply, PFC, 200 W, 36 V/5.5 A

or a
MW RSP-320-36 Switching power supply, PFC, 321 W, 36 V/8.9 A

im thinking about the MW RSP-320-36 as it is current 8.9a i can run more leds off in in a future expansion

 

[coreywebster]

ok so quite like the
makersdriver 5up pro as has a fan control that i could use for my water cooling pump but is $62

the lld h4 is loads cheeper im trying to find a board on allibaba but cant find one yet

allibaba is realty confusing to use too never bought stuff on there before

I couldnt find those on there either. Sorry if I am behind and you have the LDDs ordered, but if not try http://nuohan.en.alibaba.com/
The LDD-700h for example is only $3.4 each. They use fedex and the prices quoted to me so far have been more reasonable for delivery than a lot of Alibaba folks.
The coralux 5up is $12
If your past that point then no worries, good luck, will keep an eye on this thread.

Edit also what price are you getting on the SE-350? I have a price on my Alibaba account from the site I mentioned above, I will log in and find it for you. Double EDIT, Ah it was the SE-350-48 I got the price for. It was $33.80 may give you an idea if your getting good value though. The LRSs are considerably cheaper and in stock 350 for example is $20

 

[justsmokedope]

I couldnt find those on there either. Sorry if I am behind and you have the LDDs ordered, but if not try http://nuohan.en.alibaba.com/
The LDD-700h for example is only $3.4 each. They use fedex and the prices quoted to me so far have been more reasonable for delivery than a lot of Alibaba folks.
The coralux 5up is $12
If your past that point then no worries, good luck, will keep an eye on this thread.

Edit also what price are you getting on the SE-350? I have a price on my Alibaba account from the site I mentioned above, I will log in and find it for you. Double EDIT, Ah it was the SE-350-48 I got the price for. It was $33.80 may give you an idea if your getting good value though. The LRSs are considerably cheaper and in stock 350 for example is $20

i actuly found a uk price for this from company in the uk with free postage

ive pritty much ordered everything except dimmers can i just use a regular manual dimmer with a LDD-6 Driver Board or do i need to use a Typhon or Storm controller.

am i correct in thinking as long a the power supply is 36v this should work the current amp basicly depends on how many leds i want to run , so a 2.5a power supply can run less leds than a 8.5a , cus the one i bought one that was 36v and 8.5a current so i could run more lights off it in the future.
( MW RSP-320-36
Switching power supply, PFC, 321 W, 36 V/8.9 A)

and went for a
HLG-100H-36A
95.4W 36V 2.65A to run the cree xm l2 but will dim down

i found those 100mm 80 degree lens on alibaba for 2.2usd/ peace im in the process of trying to order them
is it realy that simple to order the stuff from there like they quote a price and then immediately put there paypall on the chat window to pay

 

[coreywebster]

i actuly found a uk price for this from company in the uk with free postage

ive pritty much ordered everything except dimmers can i just use a regular manual dimmer with a LDD-6 Driver Board or do i need to use a Typhon or Storm controller.

am i correct in thinking as long a the power supply is 36v this should work the current amp basicly depends on how many leds i want to run , so a 2.5a power supply can run less leds than a 8.5a , cus the one i bought one that was 36v and 8.5a current so i could run more lights off it in the future.
( MW RSP-320-36
Switching power supply, PFC, 321 W, 36 V/8.9 A)

and went for a
HLG-100H-36A
95.4W 36V 2.65A to run the cree xm l2 but will dim down

i found those 100mm 80 degree lens on alibaba for 2.2usd/ peace im in the process of trying to order them
is it realy that simple to order the stuff from there like they quote a price and then immediately put there paypall on the chat window to pay

Nice one on the UK finds. I'm in the UK too fella. I will check them out myself.

As to the rest of your comment, I am most defo the wrong person to ask, I am behind you in my understanding of the whole LED build, building something similar myself though, but from what I have read on your thread here you seem to have a better grasp of the idea than me. Give any of these guys a shout out on those questions.
Nice to meet a fellow UK member on the same path though!! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
Take it easy
EDIT slap up a link to that site you mentioned if you would be so kind. Cheers

 

[SilvioBerlusconi]

Why is nobody telling him that his plan is a big waste of money?

 

[Airwalker16]

Why is nobody telling him that his plan is a big waste of money?

Dafuq you mean?

 

[justsmokedope]

Nice one on the UK finds. I'm in the UK too fella. I will check them out myself.

As to the rest of your comment, I am most defo the wrong person to ask, I am behind you in my understanding of the whole LED build, building something similar myself though, but from what I have read on your thread here you seem to have a better grasp of the idea than me. Give any of these guys a shout out on those questions.
Nice to meet a fellow UK member on the same path though!! Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
Take it easy
EDIT slap up a link to that site you mentioned if you would be so kind. Cheers

i used http://www.mouser.co.uk/ for one of my drivers and https://secure.reichelt.com/ and got the ldd drivers from here.

 

[BobCajun]

Why is nobody telling him that his plan is a big waste of money?

Yeah, but it's his money. Some people need to find things out themselves through experience. 99% chance something will burn out due to the complexity of matching all the LEDs and drivers but maybe it'll work, who knows?

 

[justsmokedope]

Yeah, but it's his money. Some people need to find things out themselves through experience. 99% chance something will burn out due to the complexity of matching all the LEDs and drivers but maybe it'll work, who knows?

i might seem stupid on here but a assure you i am not .

sorry but its not that complex to match drivers with as long as you follow the rules of physics im a little dyslexic that only hinders my learning curve a bit and is not a measure of intelligence, there is plenty of good info about it also some great vids like the ones from Growmau5 on youtube about that that helps greatly . i allso would rarther buy better leds and put the thing together my self than buy a light that uses 2 year old leds at 3 times the price . i havent spent a fortune iv bought good materials that i can use again if i need to and have learned alot in designng this.
i do think leds are getting there now and are better and more stealthily than hps due to there heat and power consumption

even if you have to weight a little longer for a harvest its got to be better also combined with say an under current hydroponics system its got to be better

 

[BobCajun]

i might seem stupid on here but a assure you i am not .

sorry but its not that complex to match drivers with as long as you follow the rules of physics im a little dyslexic that only hinders my learning curve a bit and is not a measure of intelligence, there is plenty of good info about it also some great vids like the ones from Growmau5 on youtube about that that helps greatly . i allso would rarther buy better leds and put the thing together my self than buy a light that uses 2 year old leds at 3 times the price . i havent spent a fortune iv bought good materials that i can use again if i need to and have learned alot in designng this.
i do think leds are getting there now and are better and more stealthily than hps due to there heat and power consumption

even if you have to weight a little longer for a harvest its got to be better also combined with say an under current hydroponics system its got to be better

Okay. I didn't mean to imply you were unintelligent. Just seemed like a newbie thing to try to combine that many different LEDs when it's been shown that the best results are obtained with white COBs with some added red. Like why put yourself through so much trouble and expense? Seems ill-conceived, that's all.

 

[SilvioBerlusconi]

Yes, exactly! There is a whole thread about that topic: https://www.rollitup.org/t/why-do-some-guys-wats-to-still-use-mono-led-with-cobs.889223/
I think its great when skilled members experiment with different spectrums and monos and stuff but newbies who have no clue about McCree, PAR, photons.... just waste their time and money.
Example:
Lets check what a XM-L2 in T4 bin delivers: @0,7A Tc=25°C, P= 2,06W -----> 132,6lm/W . That is NOTHING.
Or XP-E Deep red with minimum flux = 300mW -------> thats the worst bin - 40% efficiency...
Then the power concept... the constant voltage supply has a efficiency of 87,5%. Multiply that with 95% (in the BEST case!) of the LDDs and you get 83,1% efficiency. Compare that with the typical used Meanwell CC drivers here...
@justsmokedope
Please don't take this as an insult - I just don't think its a good idea. And in my first post I was honestly surprised that nobody of the skilled members told you that before!