Bob Bitchen's buds

ttystikk

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thought you got the water temp down ? still dying on ya ?
Liter bottles of ice every few hours and they didn't recover.

Either they blast off or they don't do shit. I see there's several bare sticks in the pic of your most recent batch. Same deal.

Gonna install a cooling circuit for them.

The rockwool backup did not like its new LED light so I'm scrapping that plan. Otherwise, about 50% of those did okay.
 

BobBitchen

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Liter bottles of ice every few hours and they didn't recover.

Either they blast off or they don't do shit. I see there's several bare sticks in the pic of your most recent batch. Same deal.

Gonna install a cooling circuit for them.

The rockwool backup did not like its new LED light so I'm scrapping that plan. Otherwise, about 50% of those did okay.
this week its gonna be in the hi 90's to 100's f, so we will see how the new cuts do ( the bare ones in front that you mentioned), I dropped those in sunday night before I went up to the mountains.

hope the cooling circuit works for ya
 

ttystikk

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this week its gonna be in the hi 90's to 100's f, so we will see how the new cuts do ( the bare ones in front that you mentioned), I dropped those in sunday night before I went up to the mountains.

hope the cooling circuit works for ya
Me too!

The ice water bottles only held the temperature down for a few hours each, so I can either go without sleep or try something more consistently able to manage temps.

The cooling coil will definitely transfer all the heat it gets, so it's a matter of tuning to get the right temperature in the cloner.

Ya I'll take some pics.
 

BobBitchen

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These F'n russet mites are no joke !
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I had all veg plants in the bathroom yesterday, set off two doktordoom foggers, one, 30 min after the other,
I checked this morning and most were dead, but not all !
I mixed up : big time exterminator @70mm per gal, added silica , neem oil, Dr bronners peppermint ,
In 5 gal ice water, and held every plant submerged to half way up pot/cup for about 30 sec each.

I'm thinking the suggestion of burning down the whole grow and moving across state maybe the only solution, >:( .

No more outside clones coming in for me, period, cloneonly's not worth it, don't care how much I want/need em.....:cuss:
 

SomeGuy

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These F'n russet mites are no joke !
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I had all veg plants in the bathroom yesterday, set off two doktordoom foggers, one, 30 min after the other,
I checked this morning and most were dead, but not all !
I mixed up : big time exterminator @70mm per gal, added silica , neem oil, Dr bronners peppermint ,
In 5 gal ice water, and held every plant submerged to half way up pot/cup for about 30 sec each.

I'm thinking the suggestion of burning down the whole grow and moving across state maybe the only solution, >:( .

No more outside clones coming in for me, period, cloneonly's not worth it, don't care how much I want/need em.....:cuss:

Damn Bob. Sucks. My garden has been clean for a long while now. I've take regular maintenance steps to make sure it stays that way. I'm also moving the new plants I get into a detox area first.

What about a small tent to literally death bugs from cuts?

Btw. The blu balz is an awesome yielder. Me and the wife are guessing 8-10zips from the one plant. Will be one of my heaviest yielders this round d I believe.
 

BobBitchen

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Hope you get them buddy. I have been looking and still have not seen any anywhere
I'm very sorry Doc, I thought I had them beat, I'm glad you caught em first..

Damn Bob. Sucks. My garden has been clean for a long while now. I've take regular maintenance steps to make sure it stays that way. I'm also moving the new plants I get into a detox area first.

What about a small tent to literally death bugs from cuts?

Btw. The blu balz is an awesome yielder. Me and the wife are guessing 8-10zips from the one plant. Will be one of my heaviest yielders this round d I believe.
I had been spraying for a couple of days, and had them quarantined before bringing them in.
I need to be more through.
Glad the blue balls are preforming well for you


If It was me,I'd run systemic in veg....bugs sucks ass.

My buddy is getting nugs tested right now,for any left over...
Recommendations ?
 

ttystikk

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Russet mites are a motherfucker.

The only way to kill them with organics is to rotate through several different modes of attack on a strict and frequent schedule.

I'd start with Azamax, then 48 hours later pyrethrin, then 48 hours later insecticidal soap. That's 6 days. Repeat the whole 6 day cycle three times.

Thin the affected plants so there's no place to hide. Spray everything including stems, undersides and tops.

Part of the reason for so much repetitiveness is that they're so small you can't possibly get them all in one pass. Another is that you need to kill them faster than they can reproduce, about every 7 days. Finally, some of these pesticides will be more effective or long lasting than the others, and there's no way to build immunity when being attacked through multiple modes of action.
 

SomeGuy

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I have been using monterey garden take down spray once s month on vegging plants. I move to spinosad and soaps/oils and folier tea in flower. So far it's.worked great the last 6months.

Ty is right, gotta break the reproduction cycle of the pest.
 

genuity

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I'm very sorry Doc, I thought I had them beat, I'm glad you caught em first..


I had been spraying for a couple of days, and had them quarantined before bringing them in.
I need to be more through.
Glad the blue balls are preforming well for you



Recommendations ?
http://www.bonide.com/products/houseplant/view/951/systemic-houseplant

Like all things that work,not sold in California. ....

Will not burn the plants,no spraying of anything,...

I try to use it on my clones (from party cup to 1gal pots) when they get to the size I want,i transplant to final pots...thats it.

My boy is out in cali,greenhouse was being over run. ...he was using all the stuff you have said,I sent him a bottle of that stuff...clean running for 8 weeks, (around day 69,he started to see mite damage)he is in the process of getting the nugs tested, I'm positive they will be clean.
 

BobBitchen

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http://www.bonide.com/products/houseplant/view/951/systemic-houseplant

Like all things that work,not sold in California. ....

Will not burn the plants,no spraying of anything,...

I try to use it on my clones (from party cup to 1gal pots) when they get to the size I want,i transplant to final pots...thats it.

My boy is out in cali,greenhouse was being over run. ...he was using all the stuff you have said,I sent him a bottle of that stuff...clean running for 8 weeks, (around day 69,he started to see mite damage)he is in the process of getting the nugs tested, I'm positive they will be clean.
Say available in all states.
Found it at a garden center 5 miles from my place.
Tnx I'll give it a try.

Russet mites are a motherfucker.

The only way to kill them with organics is to rotate through several different modes of attack on a strict and frequent schedule.

I'd start with Azamax, then 48 hours later pyrethrin, then 48 hours later insecticidal soap. That's 6 days. Repeat the whole 6 day cycle three times.

Thin the affected plants so there's no place to hide. Spray everything including stems, undersides and tops.

Part of the reason for so much repetitiveness is that they're so small you can't possibly get them all in one pass. Another is that you need to kill them faster than they can reproduce, about every 7 days. Finally, some of these pesticides will be more effective or long lasting than the others, and there's no way to build immunity when being attacked through multiple modes of action.
I have been using monterey garden take down spray once s month on vegging plants. I move to spinosad and soaps/oils and folier tea in flower. So far it's.worked great the last 6months.

Ty is right, gotta break the reproduction cycle of the pest.

Skiing is the priority right now, for another two weeks anyway.
Then I can do an every other day regiment .
I may need to step up from organic & go nuclear on em...
Tnx guys
 

ttystikk

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My invention is working; the cloner is resting in a tub full of water, with a copper coil underneath it. Cold circuit water passes through the copper coil and cools the water in the tub, which then cools the cloner.

Tub water temp and peek of copper coil;
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Temp of water inside the cloner;
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