The Leprechaun's Pot O Gold

[whitebb2727]

I have to say, when I ran a bunch of CFL and T5 and Cheap LED on my first "real" run, I had better results than with my first 600 HPS run.
I can certainly do better with 1000W of luminous gas and diodes than I just did with the HPS, and I don't think I could run 1000W in that tent because I'm venting basically into the room. It is working fine in both cases, but I think I prefer fluoros and a mess of blurple 5W LEDs to my DigiMax 600. The elec cost difference is negligible for me, and the apparent heat was similar, or even significantly less, for whatever reason.

COBs are probably the best widely available solution for me today, but I can't justify dropping the cash on them right this second.
I just have so many perfectly useful photons right here that, until it is time to buy new bulbs, I'm happy with what I have to be happy with.

Tasty has some affordable diy kits.

I've been eyeballing them. The cob market is gaining more competitors and the prices will keep coming down.

I think my eventual setup will be cob with a t5 bulb or two.

 

[RM3]

QUOTE="perip_cbd, post: 12684460, member: 934650"]@RM3, Hey I'm really interested in the way you grow.. had a few questions on your grow medium.
I'm already recycling my peat mix/perilite.. and this sounds like it would help out.

-Cat litter 50/50 with peat mix seems like it would be pretty heavy, does this extra weight effect anything negatively?
No
-Does this hold water better than normal soils? Do you water less?
No
-Would clumping clay/liter mess anything up?
Yes

Would this type work? Am I on the right track?
https://www.amazon.com/Precious-Cat-Premium-Clumping-Litter/dp/B0009X29WK
NO!!!

Btw, picked up some Aquagold from Martins.. can't wait to see the results of 9% sulfur.
Cool
Thanks![/QUOTE

MUST BE unscented 100% Natural Clay liter
and needs to be washed/rinsed before adding to peat

It slow releases sulfur much the way dolomite does mag

 

[whitebb2727]

I'm going to add some kitty liter to my next run.

QUOTE="perip_cbd, post: 12684460, member: 934650"]@RM3, Hey I'm really interested in the way you grow.. had a few questions on your grow medium.
I'm already recycling my peat mix/perilite.. and this sounds like it would help out.

-Cat litter 50/50 with peat mix seems like it would be pretty heavy, does this extra weight effect anything negatively?
No
-Does this hold water better than normal soils? Do you water less?
No
-Would clumping clay/liter mess anything up?
Yes

Would this type work? Am I on the right track?
https://www.amazon.com/Precious-Cat-Premium-Clumping-Litter/dp/B0009X29WK
NO!!!

Btw, picked up some Aquagold from Martins.. can't wait to see the results of 9% sulfur.
Cool
Thanks![/QUOTE

MUST BE unscented 100% Natural Clay liter
and needs to be washed/rinsed before adding to peat

It slow releases sulfur much the way dolomite does mag

 

[whitebb2727]

@ttystikk

If I ran both my t5's and tried a vertical how do I train the plant? I just weave it into the screen as it grows? How do I handle and train the stretch?

 

[bravedave]

I have to say, when I ran a bunch of CFL and T5 and Cheap LED on my first "real" run, I had better results than with my first 600 HPS run.
I can certainly do better with 1000W of luminous gas and diodes than I just did with the HPS, and I don't think I could run 1000W in that tent because I'm venting basically into the room. It is working fine in both cases, but I think I prefer fluoros and a mess of blurple 5W LEDs to my DigiMax 600. The elec cost difference is negligible for me, and the apparent heat was similar, or even significantly less, for whatever reason.

COBs are probably the best widely available solution for me today, but I can't justify dropping the cash on them right this second.
I just have so many perfectly useful photons right here that, until it is time to buy new bulbs, I'm happy with what I have to be happy with.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/marshydro-or-glaxayhydro-led.911559/page-3#post-12675911

 

[Budley Doright]

Those methods work pretty good; his weed has put my dick in the dirt more than once... and that's saying something.

RM's stuff is pretty impressive to look at, and yes I would love to see what it would do to me, but the point is the hate is more cult like than the followers of his methods. I have actually started to look at expanding my t5 collection just for snickers. This place is great for pulling things from others to make what you have better IMO, after all it was you that got me going on the chilled water thing after a 3 year struggle .

 

[Evil-Mobo]

This place is great for pulling things from others to make what you have better IMO

Hit the nail on the head right here brother.

 

[ttystikk]

@ttystikk

If I ran both my t5's and tried a vertical how do I train the plant? I just weave it into the screen as it grows? How do I handle and train the stretch?

Let the plant grow up instead of topping it. Thin as needed. Let it stretch! Tie long spears back to the trellis for support. Give it plenty of light.

 

[whitebb2727]

Let the plant grow up instead of topping it. Thin as needed. Let it stretch! Tie long spears back to the trellis for support. Give it plenty of light.

Thank you.

Roughly how high up my trellis before I flip to flower?

I wonder if those three foot autos I just grew would yield more in a vertical setup? I would say so if I'm doubling my power. Lol.

 

[ttystikk]

Thank you.

Roughly how high up my trellis before I flip to flower?

I wonder if those three foot autos I just grew would yield more in a vertical setup? I would say so if I'm doubling my power. Lol.

I can't speak to autos just because I've never run them and I fear they would not climb a trellis gladly.

I grow mine all the way to the top. Then I flip.

 

[whitebb2727]

I can't speak to autos just because I've never run them and I fear they would not climb a trellis gladly.

I grow mine all the way to the top. Then I flip.

Just bend the stretch downwards?

I guess I'll read up on it. I get the concept. Just trying to figure it out in my head.

 

[Lilwatt]

Jack's all the way baby

Where can I find this jacks

 

[RM3]

Where can I find this jacks

http://www.jrpeters.com/home.html

amazon carries it, most garden centers and nurseries carry it as well

 

[Lilwatt]

http://www.jrpeters.com/home.html

amazon carries it, most garden centers and nurseries carry it as well

I just looked it up I'd dont say if its organic or not so is it organic

 

[RM3]

I just looked it up I'd dont say if its organic or not so is it organic

No, tis chem nutes

 

[bravedave]

No, tis chem nutes

Somewhere when writing about your cat litter usage you mention rinsing it before use. Seems like a material that doesn't lend itself to rinsing. How do you go about it?

 

[RM3]

Somewhere when writing about your cat litter usage you mention rinsing it before use. Seems like a material that doesn't lend itself to rinsing. How do you go about it?

simply put it in a strainer and rinse it, others are using a window screen. The litter needs to be Clay only and the reason to rinse is just dust that become mud if wet

 

[ttystikk]

I'm using Tupur straight from the bag. It's very light and drains well. It buffers nutrients very well also, lots of strong growth everywhere.

 

[Michael Huntherz]

I'm using Tupur straight from the bag. It's very light and drains well. It buffers nutrients very well also, lots of strong growth everywhere.

I like the "straight from the bag" bit, simplicity has a lot of value.

 

[bravedave]

I like the "straight from the bag" bit, simplicity has a lot of value.

It is really the slow release of sulfur I am looking for as my drainage is just fine.