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bravedave

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Church is merely upset that I have said T5's grow better weed than HPS, he ignores that I am not the only one that many others have chimed in, one of them even did a side by side with 3 lights with clones in the same room, T5 was best, CDM was second and HPS was last and he did smoke test with several patients. He has posted this twice and Church continues to ignore it

I on the other hand have NEVER told anyone to change from an HPS light to T5's most that follow me have simply added a couple of T5's to enhance the HPS spectrum

I do have a member doin a side by side with a Gravita vs T5's and so far both sides are equal, he is usin the same watts on both sides

Thus far there has only been one person (to my knowledge) that has duplicated my tanning booth exactly
I am one who has augmented my HPS with t5 blues etc and it HAS made for better quality. Actually I would be going MH all the way were it not for the T5s as for me, HPS on its own was disappointing.

You have to read churchhaze with the knowledge that he seems quite a bit jealous of RMs success and notoriety.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

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But why was HPS disappointing? And is the Hortilux Super HPS spectrum better so I am not disappointed by a plain HPS?

Or has everyone blamed their lighting for their inexperience and just got better at growing despite the additions?

I have had my lesser HPS buds pictured by the breeder of the strains I chose on his site and one has been submitted to the Green Candy Press for consideration as a representation of his strains potential. He is featured in the Big Book Of Buds.

I really didn't want to come here and brag but do you think an experienced long term breeder and Ed Rosenthal's editor don't know quality?
 

RM3

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But why was HPS disappointing? And is the Hortilux Super HPS spectrum better so I am not disappointed by a plain HPS?

Or has everyone blamed their lighting for their inexperience and just got better at growing despite the additions?

I have had my lesser HPS buds pictured by the breeder of the strains I chose on his site and one has been submitted to the Green Candy Press for consideration as a representation of his strains potential. He is featured in the Big Book Of Buds.

I really didn't want to come here and brag but do you think an experienced long term breeder and Ed Rosenthal's editor don't know quality?
Nice ! DC recently got a bud pic in High Times, They don't like me as I rebuke most of their advertisers 8)

I would like to point out that it would be helpful if you hit reply so we know who you are talking to it also notifies the member you reply to so they can come look
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I am one who has augmented my HPS with t5 blues etc and it HAS made for better quality. Actually I would be going MH all the way were it not for the T5s as for me, HPS on its own was disappointing.

You have to read churchhaze with the knowledge that he seems quite a bit jealous of RMs success and notoriety.
There is no proof of anything in this post but that you are defending RM3
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Nice ! DC recently got a bud pic in High Times, They don't like me as I rebuke most of their advertisers 8)

I would like to point out that it would be helpful if you hit reply so we know who you are talking to it also notifies the member you reply to so they can come look
You rebuking high times made me lol.

And thanks for the tip. I am new to forming. I will get better.
 
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RM3

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But why was HPS disappointing? And is the Hortilux Super HPS spectrum better so I am not disappointed by a plain HPS?
It is well known that a deep blue spectrum grows more trics and it is also well known that is where the magic is ,,,, more trics, more potency, pretty simple actually
 

MichiganMedGrower

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It is well known that a deep blue spectrum grows more trics and it is also well known that is where the magic is ,,,, more trics, more potency, pretty simple actually
I am sure you have done it many times but would you post a link of evidence that says that.

I am not saying I believe the 3 to one as a rule either.

Now that I have control of my grow maybe I should add something.

I was going to put a 400 blue mh in between my HPS hoods to see if 3 in 1 is better.

I am positive all of this is in diminishing returns past conventional methods but I don't mind a little return.
 

RM3

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I am sure you have done it many times but would you post a link of evidence that says that.

I am not saying I believe the 3 to one as a rule either.

Now that I have control of my grow maybe I should add something.

I was going to put a 400 blue mh in between my HPS hoods to see if 3 in 1 is better.

I am positive all of this is in diminishing returns past conventional methods but I don't mind a little return.
There is no one link (that I am aware of) there are years of links with folks using MH with HPS or MH alone simply for the extra Blue, never seen an argument or debate bout more blue = more frost
 

Olive Drab Green

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I grow by several different methods and for my personal stash it is t5 from start to finish. Mixed spectrum including UV is the way to go.

This is a 18+ inch cola. Yea I know they can be bigger. Its an auto. My point being it was rock hard and the lowers were to.

I think it possible with 1000 watts of t5 and filled the room with many single cola plants. Sog style and I could give hid a run for its money.

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Now, THAT is fucking beautiful.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I will look for a study. You are only offering opinions unless you can back them up.

I am positive that there are results that prove an HPS beat a MH when alone for vigor size and potency as a rule.

And when supplementing the 3 HPS to 1 MH was enough to boost plant health or something like that.

I haven't slept. My symptoms are bad lately but I will look for something concrete.

I hope you know I would never mean to try talking someone out of what works for them.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Yes. I have been following these threads for three years. And a year previous to study growing at the library. And I also contacted every breeder I could find until I found one that would help me learn.

And I have been commended for my garden by the man.

What have you done for your grow?
 

Olive Drab Green

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The same as you, friend. Don't come here and talk shit just because you don't like my answer. RM3 is probably one of the best 3 growers on this site. I'm just telling you, anything he says, listen to him. It'd serve you well.
 

Olive Drab Green

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As for my grow, using only a 450w for two decently medium sized (3 feet from the medium), I have this. I'm going to give it three more weeks, and I'll have a second 450w light by Friday or Saturday. Should help a bit. They are only just starting to swell a bit.

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