Ttystikk's vertical goodness

MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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This info gives me a great picture in my mind to work with. Thanks again.

Even with a quick estimate. My 2 600's in Blockbuster hoods cover 3.5' x 7'. I grow perpetual from feminized seed 1 plant at a time with 7 or 8 flowering in different stages plugged in from a 30 day T-5 veg. Harvest a plant every week to 10 days. Monthly totals vary with strains and results of course but "about a pound" is average.

If I removed the hoods and hung the HPS bulbs and trellised 3 sides (I have to stand somewhere in the little 9 x 7 room) it seems I could double my canopy. I bend all plants to 30" or shorter with many tops now. I have gotten much better results as time passes and am probably maxed out with my system. My results have been fantastic. I will post a pic for credibility and better advise.

But this is a fun hobby too so of course it is time to play with a new system. So I will be paying attention.
 

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ttystikk

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MichiganMedGrower said:
This info gives me a great picture in my mind to work with. Thanks again.

Even with a quick estimate. My 2 600's in Blockbuster hoods cover 3.5' x 7'. I grow perpetual from feminized seed 1 plant at a time with 7 or 8 flowering in different stages plugged in from a 30 day T-5 veg. Harvest a plant every week to 10 days. Monthly totals vary with strains and results of course but "about a pound" is average.

If I removed the hoods and hung the HPS bulbs and trellised 3 sides (I have to stand somewhere in the little 9 x 7 room) it seems I could double my canopy. I bend all plants to 30" or shorter with many tops now. I have gotten much better results as time passes and am probably maxed out with my system. My results have been fantastic. I will post a pic for credibility and better advise.

But this is a fun hobby too so of course it is time to play with a new system. So I will be paying attention.
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Nice crop!

Yes, I love the hobby just for its own sake and I love the innovation currently happening- even more that I feel a part of it.

Definitely cover all 4 sides, just put one pot and trellis on a dolly so you can roll it out of the way to access the tent!

When you remove the reflector, there are no more reflector losses but the light now scatters in all directions. Add up the new square footage and you'll see that number made a big jump too. Two 600W HPS lamps will handle up to 50 sq ft, for perspective that's just 4 sides 3 feet wide by 4 feet tall!
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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No tent. Using a small spare room. I can't fit the 4th side. No where to roll it. And I have been sketching this out and think I would need it to beat my current set up.

I started thinking about bare bulbs to surround trees but again space is always my issue in my old house with low ceilings.

I will probably try something anyway sooner or later.

Thanks again for the response.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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MichiganMedGrower said:
No tent. Using a small spare room. I can't fit the 4th side. No where to roll it. And I have been sketching this out and think I would need it to beat my current set up.

I started thinking about bare bulbs to surround trees but again space is always my issue in my old house with low ceilings.

I will probably try something anyway sooner or later.

Thanks again for the response.
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There's a guy I know who hangs plants from the door into his vertical 'octagon'. Where there's a will, there's a way!
 
OneHitDone

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ttystikk said:
860W on 208V, 1000W on 240V, plus a hundred watts to run the ballast itself, give or take.
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So where does the suggested energy savings come from with the Allstart line of lamps? It looks like they have a 360W for 400, 860W for 1000 etc?
I was under the assumption that the ballast determines the wattage draw, but maybe internal resistance of the lamp has an effect as well?

I just picked up a couple of these cobs to try over a veg area and notice approx 10W decrease from the cheap china lamps that came in the mini fixtures I run these in.
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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OneHitDone said:
So where does the suggested energy savings come from with the Allstart line of lamps? It looks like they have a 360W for 400, 860W for 1000 etc?
I was under the assumption that the ballast determines the wattage draw, but maybe internal resistance of the lamp has an effect as well?

I just picked up a couple of these cobs to try over a veg area and notice approx 10W decrease from the cheap china lamps that came in the mini fixtures I run these in.
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Ask Philips. I don't know. All I can tell you is that I spent a lot of money on COB LED so I would have more efficient lighting.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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I hope we can talk about light still?

I look at my horizontal grow as a three dimensional space. I have a low ceiling so I use 1 ft tall pots and have 30 inches to my max height from the lamps.

I try very hard to fill the plant with buds top to bottom and have gotten pretty good at it but for work space in my little room I have half open to move plants around and clean and stuff so I have been thinking how to maximize.

This is my story and I am sticking to it.

I may end up with a two tree staggard perpetual a month apart and veg two taller plants to plug in and hang some HPS bulbs bare and vert and go from there. And leave one of my ac hoods running 3 or four plants while I experiment.
 
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