Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..

[Mellowman2112]

The sun does not circle above the earth. We orbit it. We know that, it is basic. Our orbit is the cause of seasons. I challenge you to take an adult basic science class. Some are free, at local schools. Talk to an astronomy professor, and argue it. Any rebuttal you have can be shredded, through proven science.
Science doesn't need you to believe, it just is. Are you an anti-vaxxer too?
The holocaust was real. A relative of mine was a resistance fighter, and he witnessed the camps, and piles of bodies. Many saw this, but the allies thought it may not be true. Micropenis one ball Hitler was batshit crazy, and he and his staff systematically killed millions of Jews.
You really suck at acting smart. You latch on to fake science, and call it true. Shame.

You play with your own biodome everyday, growing the dank but cant see any kind of correlation?

 

[tyler.durden]

This is the third time I am reposting this below. I'm doing this so we are all clear what theory means in the scientific sense, it is not a mere guess or a hypothesis. Theory is the highest form of scientific knowledge, of course, one would have to be familiar with the scientific method to know this...

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Theory is actually the last step in the scientific method. I'm reposting my post #850 so that people can be clear of how the word theory is used in the context of science. Theory is used to explain facts, like gravity. People seem to be conflating its use with hypothesis or mere guess...


Post #850

That's not really how the scientific method works -

The scientific method starts with observation. All angles cannot present themselves for observation, since some don't actually exist. The scientific method can be employed to test the veracity of false ideas, and if done correctly the idea will show itself as false.



Theory is the highest form of scientific knowledge, and it consists of facts. Theory in the scientific sense is much different than laymen use the term -

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory

Full Definition of theory
plural theories

1. 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
   
   
2. 2 : abstract thought : speculation
   
   
3. 3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>
   
   
4. 4a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn>b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory <in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>
   
5. 5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <the wave theory of light>
   
   
6. 6a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigationb : an unproved assumption : conjecturec : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

The sense that science uses the term is highlighted in red. Theory attempts to explain natural phenomena, the phenomena itself is 'fact'. I'm not trying to be pedantic, it is important to be specific regarding terms when speaking of the scientific method as opposed to using them in a casual sense. If not, equivocation will rear rear its ugly head...

 

[GardenGnome83]

It does everything it needs to do if we are living in a biodome.

Seasons, ok summer is when the sun is in its most inward position, this causes the days to be longer in the summer because the sun does not have to move as fast while making the smaller circles during its inward position. Days are shorter in our summer in the southern latitudes, which makes it their winter. Summer in the southern latitudes is our winter. The sun is in its outermost position on the model. Days are shorter for those in the northern latitudes. IF you have ever been to Australia or NEw zealand you probably noticed that sunset occurs more rapidly. Darkness comes on quick and it gets dark quicker, this is because the sun is moving faster as it still has to make its way around the earth in 24 hours if it is making a larger circle it is moving faster.

Let's see where you got that "theory" from.
Totally ignorant of science.
Just ask Google why the sunset does that. It should help you find it.

 

[cat of curiosity]

Here's a little...
news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100310-einstein-theory-general-relativity-gravity-dark-matter-proof/
Also, Why do objects accelerate and reach terminal velocity when dropped? If it were just a matter of density, it would be a steady descent, until it rested on the ground, like buoyancy, right?

or continue to increase the further the fall. but however, that is not the case...

I took the time to read the article. They say the scientists think they are seeing the evidence of dark matter. They think what they are seeing is consistant with the existance of dark matter Hardly any kind of proof. They used to have TV commercials with doctors saying such and such brand of cigarrette was best for you. It turned out they were full of crap.

I like your idea. The next time I go to a swimming pool I will test and see if a hammer speeds up on its way to the bottom of the pool. That is a question I will consider. You know some people think air and fluid dynamics are very similar. They say that air is like a fluid. Have you heard that?

they can both be used to do work.

pneumatic and hydraulic.

read about them, and try to replace air with liquid or vice versa.

ter·mi·nal ve·loc·i·ty
noun
Physics
noun: terminal velocity; plural noun: terminal velocities

1. the constant speed that a freely falling object eventually reaches when the resistance of the medium through which it is falling prevents further acceleration.

 

[GardenGnome83]

or continue to increase the further the fall. but however, that is not the case...

they can both be used to do work.

pneumatic and hydraulic.

read about them, and try to replace air with liquid or vice versa.

ter·mi·nal ve·loc·i·ty
noun
Physics
noun: terminal velocity; plural noun: terminal velocities

1. the constant speed that a freely falling object eventually reaches when the resistance of the medium through which it is falling prevents further acceleration.

Too much science for him. I'm with you though

 

[thewanderingjack]

Huh, when did this get serious?

why space bound rockets launch with our spin. Much easier.

I have always wondered why they don't angle more... aside from international boundary issues (which is a huge deal of course)... more like those near orbit flights... only further... would that no take less power? I know there's some number as to force needed to escape gravity... but would that still be the case?

 

[Mellowman2112]

or continue to increase the further the fall. but however, that is not the case...

they can both be used to do work.

pneumatic and hydraulic.

read about them, and try to replace air with liquid or vice versa.

ter·mi·nal ve·loc·i·ty
noun
Physics
noun: terminal velocity; plural noun: terminal velocities

1. the constant speed that a freely falling object eventually reaches when the resistance of the medium through which it is falling prevents further acceleration.

The key word there is eventually reaches a constant speed, EVENTUALLY. That is hardly a proof of gravity. Shit falls to the ground if it is heavier than the medium, so what?

 

[Mellowman2112]

Let's see where you got that "theory" from.
Totally ignorant of science.
Just ask Google why the sunset does that. It should help you find it.

So, if the earth was revolving every 24 hours would'nt the days always be the same amount of hours?

 

[GardenGnome83]

The key word there is eventually reaches a constant speed, EVENTUALLY. That is hardly a proof of gravity. Shit falls to the ground if it is heavier than the medium, so what?

We call that "gravity".

 

[GardenGnome83]

So, if the earth was revolving every 24 hours would'nt the days always be the same amount of hours?

You are lost. Go get a basic scientific education, then try to finger it out. Its easy, like walking.

 

[Mellowman2112]

Newton's law of universal gravitation states that a particle attracts every other particle in the universe using a force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.
law motherfucker, do you obey it?!?!?!?

Law do I obey it? Only when I think I can't get away with doing things my way.

So you should be able to go to Yosemite and drop a pebble of the top of the massive rock and it should be attracted and bang against the massive huge boulder before it hits the ground. Yet you wont see this. Newton's theory would be disproved if you tried this experiment.

 

[Mellowman2112]

We call that "gravity".

I call that heavy shit falls and light shit floats. Why does not your gravity pull smoke down to the ground? Anything that would hold the trillions of pounds of ocean to a spinning ball would crush us to liquid. THINK MAN!

 

[evergreengardener]

So, if the earth was revolving every 24 hours would'nt the days always be the same amount of hours?

Seriously high school would have done wonders for you

 

[Mellowman2112]

This is the third time I am reposting this below. I'm doing this so we are all clear what theory means in the scientific sense, it is not a mere guess or a hypothesis. Theory is the highest form of scientific knowledge, of course, one would have to be familiar with the scientific method to know this...

___________________________________________________________________________

Theory is actually the last step in the scientific method. I'm reposting my post #850 so that people can be clear of how the word theory is used in the context of science. Theory is used to explain facts, like gravity. People seem to be conflating its use with hypothesis or mere guess...


Post #850

That's not really how the scientific method works -

The scientific method starts with observation. All angles cannot present themselves for observation, since some don't actually exist. The scientific method can be employed to test the veracity of false ideas, and if done correctly the idea will show itself as false.



Theory is the highest form of scientific knowledge, and it consists of facts. Theory in the scientific sense is much different than laymen use the term -

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory

Full Definition of theory
plural theories

1. 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
   
   
2. 2 : abstract thought : speculation
   
   
3. 3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>
   
   
4. 4a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn>b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory <in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>
   
5. 5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <the wave theory of light>
   
   
6. 6a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigationb : an unproved assumption : conjecturec : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

The sense that science uses the term is highlighted in red. Theory attempts to explain natural phenomena, the phenomena itself is 'fact'. I'm not trying to be pedantic, it is important to be specific regarding terms when speaking of the scientific method as opposed to using them in a casual sense. If not, equivocation will rear rear its ugly head...

Wonderful, please show us a couple of rigorous tests that tend to prove gravity.

 

[GardenGnome83]

I call that heavy shit falls and light shit floats. Why does not your gravity pull smoke down to the ground? Anything that would hold the trillions of pounds of ocean to a spinning ball would crush us to liquid. THINK MAN!

I am thinking. You are completely wrong.
In a world with no force but gravity, smoke may fall, I'm not sure, I live here.
In a room win no breeze or circulation, once smoke cools, it falls. Heat rises

 

[GardenGnome83]

Law do I obey it? Only when I think I can't get away with doing things my way.

So you should be able to go to Yosemite and drop a pebble of the top of the massive rock and it should be attracted and bang against the massive huge boulder before it hits the ground. Yet you wont see this. Newton's theory would be disproved if you tried this experiment.

Easy peasy. The earth pulls so hard, that little boulder can't pull. It won't win. Like it's not even there... Same reason we don't knock into shit.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

This is the third time I am reposting this below. I'm doing this so we are all clear what theory means in the scientific sense, it is not a mere guess or a hypothesis. Theory is the highest form of scientific knowledge, of course, one would have to be familiar with the scientific method to know this...

___________________________________________________________________________

Theory is actually the last step in the scientific method. I'm reposting my post #850 so that people can be clear of how the word theory is used in the context of science. Theory is used to explain facts, like gravity. People seem to be conflating its use with hypothesis or mere guess...


Post #850

That's not really how the scientific method works -

The scientific method starts with observation. All angles cannot present themselves for observation, since some don't actually exist. The scientific method can be employed to test the veracity of false ideas, and if done correctly the idea will show itself as false.



Theory is the highest form of scientific knowledge, and it consists of facts. Theory in the scientific sense is much different than laymen use the term -

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory

Full Definition of theory
plural theories

1. 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
   
   
2. 2 : abstract thought : speculation
   
   
3. 3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art <music theory>
   
   
4. 4a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action <her method is based on the theory that all children want to learn>b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory <in theory, we have always advocated freedom for all>
   
5. 5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena <the wave theory of light>
   
   
6. 6a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigationb : an unproved assumption : conjecturec : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject <theory of equations>

The sense that science uses the term is highlighted in red. Theory attempts to explain natural phenomena, the phenomena itself is 'fact'. I'm not trying to be pedantic, it is important to be specific regarding terms when speaking of the scientific method as opposed to using them in a casual sense. If not, equivocation will rear rear its ugly head...

@Mellowman2112

Can't defend against this? Three fucking times you ignored Tyler's same post.

You argue like a 3rd grade girl.

 

[Mellowman2112]

Seriously high school would have done wonders for you

Ya know, if I go get a social studies book, I am sure it says that 19 semi illiterate cavemen flew two jets into two towers causing three of them to fall straight down into their own footprint. Due to the intense fire that melted the structures causing their failure. Most people know that is a total fabrication yet the schoolbooks still say it went down that way. Fuck the brainwashing of Prussian method schools!

 

[evergreengardener]

I am thinking. You are completely wrong.
In a world with no force but gravity, smoke may fall, I'm not sure, I live here.
In a room win no breeze or circulation, once smoke cools, it falls. Heat rises

Sure does blow smoke into a 2 liter bottle. You won't see through it cause smoke fills the whole bottle Set the closed bottle down for an hour come back the smoke will be on the bottom

 

[Mellowman2112]

Easy peasy. The earth pulls so hard, that little boulder can't pull. It won't win. Like it's not even there... Same reason we don't knock into shit.

It should still exert some kind if inward pulling force while the pebble is on its way down. After all it is a much much much larger mass than the pebble.