My Amare, Hydroponics Hut, & SunCloak Grow

born2grow1

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Yah man spread the love who cares what other ppl think you just showing people what's up as I am and no one advertising nothing. We're trying to show ppl what works for our passion and Amare definitely works so for ppl who want to throw their opinion out there thats fine but why hate on product especially if that individual hasn't even tried yet and as for performance no is best at anything that's why we live and learn.
 

Hybridway

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Do these compare to your hps room?
Hu? Can't really compare hands on yet. But it'll be in a journal when I do. My plan is to grow all led. As good as my hps room was to me, I gotta say, I'm all about the led now.

Don't get worked up hybrid it's one of the prebuilt garage tech companies looking to boost sales over on the other thread. It's not a coincidence he came right here after.

Anyways I give you credit hybrid. This place is tiring especially since the cliques are the only ones allowed to refer lights. Makes you feel bad since he must hand out dozens of free lights to keep them guys happy.
Thing is, I don't see threads going up w/ these cob comp's. Never have. The people that recommend them usually don't own one from my experiences here anyways. Some might DIY & recommend cobs but not many vendor lights floating around in journals. Unless that's changed?
Don't matter. Cob lights are good to. Just not what I prefer.
More Amare knock offs coming out everyday. So maybe some of the haters can afford one of them to talk about.
I'll stay with the originators myself.
 

Trippyness

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In every thread you advert Amare...
From the umol I can tell you there are better lights.
Just seems odd you keep adverting there name constantly ina very advert lie way.
 

Big smo

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In every thread you advert Amare...
From the umol I can tell you there are better lights.
Just seems odd you keep adverting there name constantly ina very advert lie way.

So when the hundreds of questions arise should he refer a light he doesn't own over a light that has produced very well. I know first hand there are no free lights or any special love for referring them. I own 5 myself and get the same rate as the rest which is phenomenal considering what's involved. Hate to tell you bro ~umoles don't grow plants. Spec sheets don't grow plants and referrals to sub-par lights will only take away from what good companies like Amare set out to do. Many steps ahead of the competition at the competitions price. Any more explanation needed than that is a waste of time.
 

Trippyness

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So when the hundreds of questions arise should he refer a light he doesn't own over a light that has produced very well. I know first hand there are no free lights or any special love for referring them. I own 5 myself and get the same rate as the rest which is phenomenal considering what's involved. Hate to tell you bro ~umoles don't grow plants. Spec sheets don't grow plants and referrals to sub-par lights will only take away from what good companies like Amare set out to do. Many steps ahead of the competition at the competitions price. Any more explanation needed than that is a waste of time.
Di you just say umol does not grow plants?
Seems you have 0 grasp on plant growth regarding photons...
Im not even going to comment as that is by far the most ignorant comment I have ever seen here.
Umol/ PAR is what make plants grow, higher umol means more yield and faster growth. 900PPFD is your ideal spot.
This guy posts about amare everywhere... all im saying is he is adverting the hell out of these lights.
You sir seem to know very little about plant growth with that statement.
Stick to your inefficient lights.
 

Big smo

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1200~umoles of 550nm based light? Sure fire that up and let me know how your doing. It was a common statement saying umoles don't grow plants. Obviously you need light but the spec sheet part of it seems to be the only important part to most folks around here. I pull 1.5gpw from a light that takes 80 days seed to chop how the hell is that not enough to advertise to growers looking for suggestions. There were numerous referrals of plc before Amare was even mentioned so you comijng here is just bullshit. I followed the cx whatever grow very closely and even with 10k worth of lights didn't see a gpw average or anything impressive to say the least. But again no feedback on those referrals. This is not a 200 dollar light with a 800 dollar price tag with average to below average results. Hybrid, pet, myself and many others all grow with these lights and constantly show solid proof that the lights are well worth their cost.
 

Big smo

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Each plant is receiving 150 watts of light and at its closest point is hitting 460 ~umoles. The coverage is well exceeded by the 3 plants under the fixture. 55 days ago this I was a seed and it has also had a very tough life suffering from an early mag deficiency. image.jpg

So to prove my statement that umoles don't grow plants, the point I was making is that the spec sheet part of it is not what grows as much as the intensity and spectrum that has been well planned in these lights. If I'm not allowed or he is not allowed to do REAL life grows with proven resukts and then be able to recommend a light then this place should be changed to a non growing spec sheet forum. Catch my drift?
 

Trippyness

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1200~umoles of 550nm based light? Sure fire that up and let me know how your doing. It was a common statement saying umoles don't grow plants. Obviously you need light but the spec sheet part of it seems to be the only important part to most folks around here. I pull 1.5gpw from a light that takes 80 days seed to chop how the hell is that not enough to advertise to growers looking for suggestions. There were numerous referrals of plc before Amare was even mentioned so you comijng here is just bullshit. I followed the cx whatever grow very closely and even with 10k worth of lights didn't see a gpw average or anything impressive to say the least. But again no feedback on those referrals. This is not a 200 dollar light with a 800 dollar price tag with average to below average results. Hybrid, pet, myself and many others all grow with these lights and constantly show solid proof that the lights are well worth their cost.
Tehe reason for you high yield is your PPFD. 400+ umol a plant is very good. With that much sprad your in the upp PPFD range.
Im wella ware people here are all about spreadsheets.
Some new info has come to light about cxb being less efficinet that stated, which isnt suprised.
Im not knocking lights at all, im just saying this guy adverts amaer everwhere and umol does grow plants.
Nice grow, but your PPFD is the reason for that
 

Trippyness

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Each plant is receiving 150 watts of light and at its closest point is hitting 460 ~umoles. The coverage is well exceeded by the 3 plants under the fixture. 55 days ago this I was a seed and it has also had a very tough life suffering from an early mag deficiency. View attachment 3818307

So to prove my statement that umoles don't grow plants, the point I was making is that the spec sheet part of it is not what grows as much as the intensity and spectrum that has been well planned in these lights. If I'm not allowed or he is not allowed to do REAL life grows with proven resukts and then be able to recommend a light then this place should be changed to a non growing spec sheet forum. Catch my drift?
Your drift is incorrect. Your umol is fine and with the spread you have a high PPFD which is again teh reason begind. Any basic botany book will explain this/
 

born2grow1

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Di you just say umol does not grow plants?
Seems you have 0 grasp on plant growth regarding photons...
Im not even going to comment as that is by far the most ignorant comment I have ever seen here.
Umol/ PAR is what make plants grow, higher umol means more yield and faster growth. 900PPFD is your ideal spot.
This guy posts about amare everywhere... all im saying is he is adverting the hell out of these lights.
You sir seem to know very little about plant growth with that statement.
Stick to your inefficient lights.

I agree with big smo there are so many factors to contribute in equation of growing like signals from moon phases and most of the par meter don't read all umoles produced some like ir and uvb if you grow outside you will understand that its not just light it quality of light which triggers hormones and from what sun provides amare is the closest to date with high quality parts. I go by science and documents of past years of oudoor grows and I tell you something just because you grow the same plant the same way outdoors year after year its always a little different and that has to deal with how the earth rotates around the sun etc. Which give plants different signals which we still don't understand completely. So I wouldn't just go by umoles. Yah its a good base for growing but not everything
 

Hybridway

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In every thread you advert Amare...
From the umol I can tell you there are better lights.
Just seems odd you keep adverting there name constantly ina very advert lie way.
Name me one light that had higher OOOOOHMOLS @ equal wattage please? Oh, don't forget. 1000 oooohmols of Burple isn't growing pot like white or especially enhanced white.
I promote Amare cuz I want others to enjoy the same rewards from their use as I. Simple as that.
Can't beat it in Oooohmols or quality as far as I'm concerned. Have at it!
 

Trippyness

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I agree with big smo there are so many factors to contribute in equation of growing like signals from moon phases and most of the par meter don't read all umoles produced some like ir and uvb if you grow outside you will understand that its not just light it quality of light which triggers hormones and from what sun provides amare is the closest to date with high quality parts. I go by science and documents of past years of oudoor grows and I tell you something just because you grow the same plant the same way outdoors year after year its always a little different and that has to deal with how the earth rotates around the sun etc. Which give plants different signals which we still don't understand completely. So I wouldn't just go by umoles. Yah its a good base for growing but not everything
We are talking PPFD also you are goin agains everything Botany has to offer.
There have been tests, scientific tests even on this forum regading yield and PPFD.
Lets let someon else chime in.
@CobKits @Rahz @robincnn

Its quite asburd that you believe umol does not matter and there are other factors.
Sure there are factors that may improve, but Umol and PPFD are very important.

Take it away boys, lets educated :)
 

Trippyness

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Name me one light that had higher OOOOOHMOLS @ equal wattage please? Oh, don't forget. 1000 oooohmols of Burple isn't growing pot like white or especially enhanced white.
I promote Amare cuz I want others to enjoy the same rewards from their use as I. Simple as that.
Can't beat it in Oooohmols or quality as far as I'm concerned. Have at it!
Northern Growlights @robincnn
PLC
Timber
Tasty LED

I think you dont understand at all how umol and PPFD or even how plants photosynthesize.
I will let someone else who is much more versed in this subject tell you why your wrong.
Trippy
 

KarmaPaymentPlan

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Northern Growlights @robincnn
PLC
Timber
Tasty LED

I think you dont understand at all how umol and PPFD or even how plants photosynthesize.
I will let someone else who is much more versed in this subject tell you why your wrong.
Trippy
careful your in the Amare safe space where science doesnt apply
Name me one light that had higher OOOOOHMOLS @ equal wattage please? Oh, don't forget. 1000 oooohmols of Burple isn't growing pot like white or especially enhanced white.
I promote Amare cuz I want others to enjoy the same rewards from their use as I. Simple as that.
Can't beat it in Oooohmols or quality as far as I'm concerned. Have at it!
did you know white light has blue and red already mixed inside it?
1200~umoles of 550nm based light? Sure fire that up and let me know how your doing.
then why is does Amare use so much green light emitted from the cool white diodes?
 

Big smo

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I should rephrase ppf, umoles grow plants but not a piece or paper or a meter. Show a grow journal here that can top these results? That 10 cx500 grow sure as shit didn't hit 1gpw with "the most efficient lights available" Most grows here don't. That's the bottom line and the most important overlooked thing on Riu. My lights bigger or my lights more efficient who gives a fuck when it is not put to use or didn't produce.

Hey guys if your growing pot with a shitty light and shitty results and want better results buy an Amare. How is that up for debate.
careful your in the Amare safe space where science doesnt apply

did you know white light has blue and red already mixed inside it?

then why is does Amare use so much green light emitted from the cool white diodes?
Or why does it invite clowns here to try and put down a good company. Yeah science will get you 2gpw keep reading those books. Some people are just so stupid.
 

Rahz

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We are talking PPFD also you are goin agains everything Botany has to offer.
There have been tests, scientific tests even on this forum regading yield and PPFD.
Lets let someon else chime in.
@CobKits @Rahz @robincnn

Its quite asburd that you believe umol does not matter and there are other factors.
Sure there are factors that may improve, but Umol and PPFD are very important.

Take it away boys, lets educated :)
Because I'm an advertiser I would rather not get too deeply involved in this type debate. I do agree that electrical efficiency and output are very important aspects to consider and should be available to potential customers.
 

born2grow1

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We are talking PPFD also you are goin agains everything Botany has to offer.
There have been tests, scientific tests even on this forum regading yield and PPFD.
Lets let someon else chime in.
@CobKits @Rahz @robincnn

Its quite asburd that you believe umol does not matter and there are other factors.
Sure there are factors that may improve, but Umol and PPFD are very important.

Take it away boys, lets educated :)

I never said umol and pffd wasn't part of growing plants I simply stating that you can't go just umol and pffd especially when some of meters people use like apogee doesn't read it and UV so how can you go by that if it not giving full data read my post again before you get hyped up on something.
 

Trippyness

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Because I'm an advertiser I would rather not get too deeply involved in this type debate. I do agree that electrical efficiency and output are very important aspects to consider and should be available to potential customers.
Thank you for that comment.
I understand your view.
 

Trippyness

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I never said umol and pffd wasn't part of growing plants I simply stating that you can't go just umol and pffd especially when some of meters people use like apogee doesn't read it and UV so how can you go by that if it not giving full data read my post again before you get hyped up on something.
I really dont think you understand where we get these numbers fron. LER and Integrated Sphere.
Are you even aware of what PPFD is? I read the whole post, however your wrong.
PPFD and Umol are very significant to plant growth.
Maybe, just maybe @SupraSPL would chime in on this.
Im well aware of UV and how its beneficial to to essential oil production in Cannabis among other plants.
What I am saying is that your saying that Umol isnt as big of a factor as we make it out to be. When ifact it very much is.
Its a big player in yield and choosing the correct light.
as for Blurple vs White (CCT) thats a debate for another time.
The perfect spectrum is all grower based. Some prefer 3000k myself included some prefer 3500 or 4000k or a mix.
Regardless, Umol and PPFD are the biggest factor in yield and growth other than genetics.

Not sure if OP understand umol at all, hut I am not here to fight about umol. Its a proven fact.
There are many charts, sphere data and grows to backup umol and PPFD relative to yield and growth.

Trippy out
 

born2grow1

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Also we are just showing passion and what works for us and we're happy with it so why not bring to the community what makes satisfied with our results
 
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