11/9 the day legal pot died

cat of curiosity

cat of curiosity

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cannabineer said:
But you see new and excellent India Pale Ales daily. I don't see the cottage end of the industry either rolled up or otherwise made irrelevant. If I don't like "Bud" weiser or Marl"boo" ... I can grow some of these excellent KK x KK and have a sassy peculiar asskicking confection that bigs won't try to chase.
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i agree, but it could well be that the ''cottage'' varieties are like moonshine. hard to find, expensive as hell, and illegal as fuck.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cat of curiosity said:
you are right, perhaps i figured you would understand the correlation and see the humor in it. i am, by the way, a notorious smart ass. i like to laugh and fuck around, it's better than dealing with pain and an inevitable end. so, to clarify, i'll explain my examples...

willow bark isn't illegal. but you can't make aspirin and sell it without fda approval.

as far as i know, it is illegal to grow tobacco privately in sc. you must have a license. not only my family (on the farm i grew up on) taught this, but it was well known in our county, and all surrounding. i don't feel like looking it up, but i've only ever seen on farm in my area with tobacco, and they DID have a license. this means you are probably right, or that it is legal some places but not necessarily others...

my family still has a grape vine brought back from italy at the end of wwII. we also grow scupernomes and muscadines. there was a gallon limit when i was young, don't remember what, but homemade wine and beer are all over here in fall/winter. you can't make whiskey, at all. illegal. no stills permitted whatsoever. so no selling, no whiskey legal. get caught with a still and no license, and it's prison.

ethanol fuel permits are ethanol fuel permits. you can drink it, but you better not get caught if you are permitted. they do regular inspections...

so if i'm unreliable, oh well, i guess that's what google was invented for. however, the fda and pharma aspect is a very real threat. try to make and market percoset if you don't believe me. i'm not out to 'bring you around' to my way of thinking, i only want you and others to think, and find out. grab an x-file, the truth is out there...
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Got it -- "I like to fuck around". I shall take that as truth sir.

Tobacco is legal to grow, even in backward states like SC. I don't smoke it but like to get facts straight.

I have a half acre of wine vines on my property in the Willamette Valley. I get about 600 bottles or 120 gallons of wine from it every year. OR legal limit for home wine production -- 200 gallons for 2 adult household.

Are you involved in the movement to legalize or an interested observer?
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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Fogdog said:
About MJ on a Pot site. I would hope we can agree. Who knows what Trump will do when this issue comes up. All I've heard is he supports medical. No details.

I do think the cat's out of the bag and the public opinion is against harsh regs.

I also would like to see good science applied to the many claims for the benefits of MJ. So, we need to open the regulations up regarding research. Sanders proposed de-scheduling,

http://extract.suntimes.com/news/10/153/13981/no-senators-cosponsor-bernie-sanders-bill-end-federal-marijuana-prohibition

Bernie Sanders’ marijuana de-scheduling bill gets the cold shoulder from fellow senators.
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Research was never off the table it was draconian in terms of it's rules but it occurred. Again Sativex just finished Stage III trials in the US. Cannabis needs rescheduled to III but whether they move it to II, IV, V it makes no difference for the states that legalized. Once the money is rolling into the states that have legalized the more the states will fight the feds. Things just got interesting.

Further Trump is going to have much bigger fish to fry LOL Russia ha ha hahaaaaaa, the entire world is watching, people smoking pot, in legal states, will simply not be all that important.
 
roseypeach

roseypeach

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curious2garden said:
Oh sweetie I so disagree. The best pot I've ever heard of came from a Monsanto grower I know. Trust me when these guys enter the arena it is gonna get EPIC!!

I'm not afraid there is enough for EVERYONE in this.

Life is not a zero sum game, especially where cannabis is concerned. But yes there's going to be vexatious rules and taxes but meh such is life.
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Interesting...

I'm an heirloom girl myself, I'm wary like that because I prefer the original stuff that hasn't been altered and hybridized.

Good thing I don't have to worry about that these days. Cat has taught me a shit ton about growing and together we've been pushing out some pretty good shit. I'm looking forward to him breeding because the last couple of strains he worked with years ago a friend of his told me was a one hitter. I'm really glad for that!! :)
 
curious2garden

curious2garden

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roseypeach said:
Interesting...

I'm an heirloom girl myself, I'm wary like that because I prefer the original stuff that hasn't been altered and hybridized.

Good thing I don't have to worry about that these days. Cat has taught me a shit ton about growing and together we've been pushing out some pretty good shit. I'm looking forward to him breeding because the last couple of strains he worked with years ago a friend of his told me was a one hitter. I'm really glad for that!! :)
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This just happened to be an heirloom strain. I think we underestimate cannabis. Anyway I've got you guys here and I'm pretty happy for that. We may not always see eye to eye but it doesn't matter we support one another anyway.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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cat of curiosity said:
yes, DESCHEDULE!!!

schedule two means it can be used, but only pharma can produce, package, and distribute it through doctors. so NO GROWING, SMOKING OR INDIVIDUAL PRODUCTION.

is that not a big deal? you can't grow tobacco, you have to buy it. you can't make alcohol, you have to buy it. is that what you want with pot? to limit to a handful of fda approved strains and all else is destroyed, with the dea to enforce it?
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It's legal to make your own beer, wine and even spirits here in Colorado. You just can't sell it.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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cat of curiosity said:
they are. marijuana is not. your marijuana compounds will need to meet fda requirements before and after butter is made and before and after cookies are made, and the department of health and environmental control will have to grade and approve/disapprove your kitchen for baking.

then your packaging game will have to be inspected, graded, and passed. and oh, guess what? you aren't fda approved, bc pot must be lab produced and meet x requirements before being extracted into usable oils for fda approved purposes...
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Dont forget FDA application fees, they will be enormous, just like they're doing to the vape industry.
 
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