GAS lantern Schedule & Diminished light

Growdict

Growdict

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JDMase said:
Take your attitude elsewhere man. Im just reiterating what the article I read said. If you have issue with that go find the article and vent there
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i dont have an attitude. i am simply pointing out 18/6 is just as much a real world lighting schedule as 12/12. Now there may be actual scientific reasons plants dont absorb energy well after 12 hours, i dont know. And like you i would be interested in any side by side experiments showing quantifiable results. I sometimes use gas lighting in my veg, but i do it to balance the heat in my flowering off hours.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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JDMase said:
Not my argument man, just lots of archive forum posts that im reviving lol.

Well I believe the flowering hormone is activated at 6 hours of dark so I think your 6/6/6/6 would switch that hormone on and off resulting in stress. But im not an expert on the matter. There are however a lot of experts here who im hoping will chime in *hint hint*
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Who are these experts your waiting on to chime in?
Seems to me that this topic hasn't had much actual research or at least documented beyond "bro science" research.
 
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JDMase

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torontoke said:
Who are these experts your waiting on to chime in?
Seems to me that this topic hasn't had much actual research or at least documented beyond "bro science" research.
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General growers with experience in what im discussing, is what I meant by that
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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There would be no benefit to doing gaslight in an indoor artificial light setup. It's only purpose is to prevent flowering of short day plants in greenhouses in winter when days are too short. Indoors, all that would happen is that growth would be slower because you only get a total of 13 hours light a day.

I'll tell you what does work well though, repeating 6/2 cycle. I find it works better than straight 18/6. Just by visual assessment, no side by side or anything. That's what I use for rooting clones and veg stage. I tried 11/1 too and it didn't work as well. I think I tried 7/1 also and 5/3 was too slow for my liking. All I can say is 6/2 seems to me to be the best of all I tried. All it takes is 3 programs on a digital timer.
 
pineappleman420

pineappleman420

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BobCajun said:
There would be no benefit to doing gaslight in an indoor artificial light setup. It's only purpose is to prevent flowering of short day plants in greenhouses in winter when days are too short. Indoors, all that would happen is that growth would be slower because you only get a total of 13 hours light a day.

I'll tell you what does work well though, repeating 6/2 cycle. I find it works better than straight 18/6. Just by visual assessment, no side by side or anything. That's what I use for rooting clones and veg stage. I tried 11/1 too and it didn't work as well. I think I tried 7/1 also and 5/3 was too slow for my liking. All I can say is 6/2 seems to me to be the best of all I tried. All it takes is 3 programs on a digital timer.
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Im hoping to do a 6/2 18/6 side by side in the next month or so. Just waiting for more lights lol
 
Rayne

Rayne

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I use those lighting schedules also.

My budget won't allow me to run the more standardized/mainstream/what everyone else does lighting routines. Cannabis is a long night short day flower anyway
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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RM3 said:
Number 1 benefit less stretch and faster finish

sorry but you're wrong on this
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Sure there's less stretch, because there's less growth. Faster finish? Get real. You can SAY I'm wrong, but where's the proof? Why has no article ever been published saying that anything ever grown in a greenhouse with the gaslight had it's finish sped up? I find it rather unlikely that you found an effect of night interruption that has never been noticed by any scientist before in the history of greenhouse horticulture.
 
RM3

RM3

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BobCajun said:
Sure there's less stretch, because there's less growth. Faster finish? Get real. You can SAY I'm wrong, but where's the proof? Why has no article ever been published saying that anything ever grown in a greenhouse with the gaslight had it's finish sped up?
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prolly because they weren't growin cannabis lol

I've grow the same strain from clone for years, when I used 18/6 it was a 9 week strain since switching to GLR it is a 7 week strain and this has now been consistent for years

This same strain used to stretch bout 2 feet after flipped and now stretches bout 8 inches

many others are seeing the same thing I have seen, just because there isn't a paper on it doesn't make it any less real
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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RM3 said:
prolly because they weren't growin cannabis lol

I've grow the same strain from clone for years, when I used 18/6 it was a 9 week strain since switching to GLR it is a 7 week strain and this has now been consistent for years

This same strain used to stretch bout 2 feet after flipped and now stretches bout 8 inches

many others are seeing the same thing I have seen, just because there isn't a paper on it doesn't make it any less real
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You can't grow SHIT in 7 weeks, cept thin little crappy excuses for buds. How could anything done in the veg cycle increase the rate of photosynthesis in the flower cycle? Just not possible. Where's your side-by-side? Don't tell me you didn't bother doing one all this time?

As you can see here, potency is about the same from week 7 to week 10. You just decided to pick at week 7 instead of 9. Same potency, much lower weight and density. Let's see your supposedly done plants. I bet they look like typical 7 week immature buds.

 
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RM3

RM3

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BobCajun said:
You can't grow SHIT in 7 weeks, cept thin little crappy excuses for buds. How could anything done in the veg cycle increase the rate of photosynthesis in the flower cycle? Just not possible. Where's your side-by-side? Don't tell me you didn't bother doing one all this time?
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Not gonna argue wit ya

Tis used and discussed by several growers here and it works and does exactly what is intended not my fault your mind is closed to it ?
 
BobCajun

BobCajun

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RM3 said:
Not gonna argue wit ya

Tis used and discussed by several growers here and it works and does exactly what is intended not my fault your mind is closed to it ?
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Show your pics of your 7 week plants, or concede defeat.
 
RM3

RM3

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BobCajun said:
Okay, looks like 5 week old bud, but where's your 7 week pics? You realize that amber means degraded to CBN, right?
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Not in this case it doesn't but I agree most are unaware of what true early amber is
feel free to ask @GardenGnome83 since he smoked some yesterday whether it had CBN in it ? Since it is a very clear euphoric, up/energetic strain

this pic was taken on the 19th
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BobCajun

BobCajun

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Looks like it needs about 3 more weeks to fatten up. When you dry that out you'd get next to nothing. What's your yield per sq ft at 7 weeks? Those look exactly like normal 7 week buds, except the hairs got browned, probably from low humidity or the UV all the time. You barely even see hairs when a plant is really done, because they retract into the calyxes. Those are a bunch of hairy underinflated calyxes. There's more leaf than calyx. You just don't know how to grow weed, son.
 
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