Broad mites or TMV.... Or different

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Afgan King said:
Before I took over the juveniles and cloning area yes they were very lax after tho I held people to standards. 99 iso was hanging outside every room with clean towels to wipe down scissors or any blades used at all. When I would uaw new razors for every strain while cloning regardless if I thought they had it or not new razors to ensure nothing was spread. Once we started with axium and people followed protocol we were fine. And we weren't that lax I mean we all had new scrubs with a pair of crocs everyday always cleaned by citna and no one with any outside clothes could even open our flower rooms. It wasn't that lax to be honest we were on point with gloves glasses hats and scrubs all freshly cleaned weekly and everyone had a sterile outfit for each room we go into. We would change out our scrubs if I went from any plant room to any other plant room only exception was my two rooms I wouldn't change out between because I was in both non stop all day. Again this is something no one wants but I'll gladly send out a clone for anyone who wants to say it's nothing hell after what you've said I'll glove up and not even let it in my house.
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Yeah, I figured you changed the protocols when it landed in your lap....I would have shook them up with a quarantine area to test grow new unproven cuts too....Might not have flied with them but, they would have gotten a good lecture about that and shown them the stuff in Nelson's Greenhouse guide about it too!

Sometime's there are the folks who have to learn the hard way!

To put it a bit differently - A gram of prevention. Is worth a pound of cure(d)!
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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a mongo frog said:
Has any of the gardeners you know used pro tek or a K silicate to see if it helps. Honestly I've been a believer in broad mites to be the culprit to the leaf pattern you posted in post #24. Ive seen thousands of clones with that leaf pattern some worse then others. Ive also made mother plants out of clones with that leaf pattern. A lot of OG and OG crosses and some cookies also have that leaf pattern here in northern california. So the story goes, I know a gardener here who started using pro tek to help try build the immune system of his plants that carried that leaf pattern. He told me back that leaf pattern is gone. So i try it starting 2 months ago, leaf pattern is gone. Moral of the story is I've stopped calling this a broad mite issue for sure and am now leaning towards some sort of weak immune issue or virus. So the facts are i have no idea and am still confused about this fucking leaf pattern. Because gardens where i live run crops with that leaf pattern every day. Im still so confused.........
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when I had a bad case of broadmites, I never got a mosaic pattern on my leaves, Just dead leaves that twist and continually got worse until the plant was dead. i thought at first, someone was putting stuff in my medium or nutrients, then a friend told me about microscopic mites, I told him he was crazy. After finding them and going to war,I have a pretty good grasp of the damage they cause.
 
Afgan King

Afgan King

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Dr. Who said:
Yeah, I figured you changed the protocols when it landed in your lap....I would have shook them up with a quarantine area to test grow new unproven cuts too....Might not have flied with them but, they would have gotten a good lecture about that and shown them the stuff in Nelson's Greenhouse guide about it too!

Sometime's there are the folks who have to learn the hard way!

To put it a bit differently - A gram of prevention. Is worth a pound of cure(d)!
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Ya man believe me me and my partner kept telling them there needs to be quarantine area or something cuz just like they let that in they let a pm infected goji og like the worse pm I've ever seen on a plant in as well....can't even use green cure in Colorado as it's a ban substance....but we were allowed to nutrient foliar spray with potassium bicarbonate...... because that made a difference to the mmed some how:wall: ...but ya I was very careful with everything all my cuts I got from there were cut from the original clone or from seed that I would keep away from everything till I got my cut lol btw once you have pm in a warehouse of 5000 plants it never leaves. Cant use only cure eagle 20 which is dumb because we should be allowed to spray clones as they come in I get at no other time but a single clone the day it comes in as a quarantine matter to me isn't a big deal. Idk I get why people hate eagle but only cure for pm I spray my clones once rooted with eagle and avid and never have to touch em again
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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a mongo frog said:
Has any of the gardeners you know used pro tek or a K silicate to see if it helps. Honestly I've been a believer in broad mites to be the culprit to the leaf pattern you posted in post #24. Ive seen thousands of clones with that leaf pattern some worse then others. Ive also made mother plants out of clones with that leaf pattern. A lot of OG and OG crosses and some cookies also have that leaf pattern here in northern california. So the story goes, I know a gardener here who started using pro tek to help try build the immune system of his plants that carried that leaf pattern. He told me back that leaf pattern is gone. So i try it starting 2 months ago, leaf pattern is gone. Moral of the story is I've stopped calling this a broad mite issue for sure and am now leaning towards some sort of weak immune issue or virus. So the facts are i have no idea and am still confused about this fucking leaf pattern. Because gardens where i live run crops with that leaf pattern every day. Im still so confused.........
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You should know that real and regular use of Si can protect very well from all the really small mites - like broad or russet...
I was always able to stop any spread or progression by a good Forbid treatment.....

Plants that have that look on all leaves are vergated. The Doctor from Greenhouse is a strain that did that for me - all the beans! There are others too.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Afgan King said:
Ya man believe me me and my partner kept telling them there needs to be quarantine area or something cuz just like they let that in they let a pm infected goji og like the worse pm I've ever seen on a plant in as well....can't even use green cure in Colorado as it's a ban substance....but we were allowed to nutrient foliar spray with potassium bicarbonate...... because that made a difference to the mmed some how:wall: ...but ya I was very careful with everything all my cuts I got from there were cut from the original clone or from seed that I would keep away from everything till I got my cut lol btw once you have pm in a warehouse of 5000 plants it never leaves. Cant use only cure eagle 20 which is dumb because we should be allowed to spray clones as they come in I get at no other time but a single clone the day it comes in as a quarantine matter to me isn't a big deal. Idk I get why people hate eagle but only cure for pm I spray my clones once rooted with eagle and avid and never have to touch em again
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I hear ya there! I always dip mine in green cure and then a "pyth" dip - spray the same on soil surface and container....

Why the hell is Green Cure banned in CO? It's OMRI listed!
 
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