The Al B. Fuct tribute Grow

[sparkafire]

Yes Al and Sparkafire, I saw the ridiculous questions (By the way I have some leftover linguine and sauce bolognese from dinner ttonight....Would it be a bad idea if...)LOL is right.

I have a little op I just started myself spark. I have high (lol) hopes of becoming a certified fuct head also. Op is a bit larger than alot I have read about on here, but basically a perpetual harvest SoG that will pull a crop every 19-20 days (3 flower trays instead of 4 like Al=3 harvest/2 months)

2 Rooms-Former Bedrooms with an attached full bath
Veg/Clones/Mothers-Room 1
Veg Area/Mums Area
8x4 tray/70g. res-Ionic Nutes w/ a little magic saucery
1kw MH Hortilux Bulb on 6' light rail

Clone Zone-Off in the corner
Flos for lighting
Large Aerocloner

Flower Room-Room 2
3 -8'x4' Trays/3-70g Resevoirs-Duthmaster Gold-Flower
Each Tray Serviced with:
1kw HPS Hotilux Bulbs on 6' light rails
8"/790 CFM Exhaust w/CAP controller pushes out is scrubbed through 8" Mtn. Air Carbon Filter-10"x20"passive air intake in floor.

All lights air-cooled Sun System Reflectors with Tempered Glass Enclosure

Both rooms climate controlled- 75-76 degrees-lights on, 70-72 degrees dark cycle, 50-55% RH (currently needing to humidify with a humidistat controlled unit to maintain this-will probably need to dehumidify when the rooms are full of plants), lots o' fans-wall mounts, clip-ons, etc.

4 strains (47 plants from 48 seeds) started 2nd week of veg growth on Saturday-all looking good
Started 3 additional strains on same day (36 more beans)
Great seed bank-Of the 36 I started Saturday using the wet paper towel method 30 have already srouted-couple days and i will put them in plugs.
Out of these 80-83 seedlings I hope to be left with 50-60 Mums.
Originally thought 72 plants per tray in the flower room-SoG with a week of veg time on the clones but now i am pushing for no veg time so I can do 120 a pop(3.9/sq.ft) Hoping to cut my first clones in a month or so.


I had been telling Al I will post some pics soon-but the truth of it is my wife left me some time ago and took all our shit-so no camera-old fucks like me hate shopping for that crap. So i got the house my laptop and.....my golf clubs-bitch. I will get one to show off my ladies eventually-or if I run into any nasty problems that warrant photographic evidence then I will surely pick one up. So sorry no canniporn till i brave bestbuy.

So there you go Spark thats what I have going on-I needed something to occupy my time time so i puffinh on a fatty and thought hey why not be a w33d b@r0n. Just kidding i smoke 1.5 lbs a week-so its just Head Stash. Now where is that linguine??

Keep me posted on your op too. I tracked you down because i recognized you from Al's.

FYI
Al if you are out there. Got 35% h2o2 today from a local source but can only find 50% strength online unless I have a pharm license for the suppliers around here. But 35% will do with a heavier dosage right. I think I can work out the math if you use 125ml of 50%/265L nute solution.

DUDE that's not a little grow that's a FARM!!!!!!!

and i think its 1.75ml to every Liter. for 35%

 

[Old in the Way]

LOL, its not a farm spark-I am just a close friend of the weed. Plants were my biz for a long time-I left work in 04' and have dicked around with this and that but decided i needed a positive, productive home-based hobby to occupy my time, since kids are long gone and wife took all our shit and headed further south I figured what the hell. It doesn't take up much time at the moment-that will soon change and my power bill dropped by 60% when the old lady left (so I have tons of juice to spare)and it is a good fit for my lifestyle so...away we grow.

I will go get a camera and show off the digs when i get a chance.

 

[sparkafire]

yes yes looking forward to pics

 

[Al B. Fuct]

H2O2: 50% at 1ml/L, 35% @ 1.7ml/L

 

[Old in the Way]

Spark and Al if i may,

Not trying to hijack the thread but i am seeing some very minor tip burn today.
Yesterday-36 hrs ago the nutes ended up at 1400 ppm for about 16 hrs-don't ask.
I drained a bit and it is at 1190 ppm and my ph has been kept at a solid 5.8. My thoughts are that high fert is the cause of the tip burn and they should be fine however i wonder if i am seeing boron def. Probably over-analyzing can you advise.
Temps were 76, RH 51-52%, Ph 5.8 light 26" over tips.

Thanks guys.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

I wouldn't have thought you'd see a nute burn at 1400. Odd. Sure, lower it and watch the new growth.

Deficiencies from an actual lack of an element are pretty unusual when you're using commercially made hydro nutes. Deficiencies are usually caused by a pH error, but you have yours right at 5.8.

ok, I'm back on my op. c u in a cpl days.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

BTW, do you have a sulfur burner? They can cause tip burn of they are run too long. I run mine about 8 mins 2x/day in lights-off- and that might be too much.

 

[Old in the Way]

K, I will closely monitor things.

No sulfur burner-nothing out of the ordinary-perhaps just from the light.
????
It is very minor.

Thanks again.

 

[sparkafire]

21 day flower update. Everything is going OK i guess if you take away the burnt clones from last week setting me back 2 weeks. I have 12 plants in the system now and i am beginning to see a distinct pattern with the mothers that i used. I started with with 5 mothers and thought i had picked the best and strongest ones.

Well from what i can see the one mother has Sativa genes!! Her clones have shot up to 40in and very gangley and not flowering like i hoped while the others are in the 28 to 36 in range with real tight flowers.

We will see for sure with the new set of clones this Sunday if she does it again she is OUTA HERE!!

I will be turning on the 1000w HPS this Sunday also for i will have a full house when this set of clones come in.

I have attached pics of some leaf problems but its been 3 days since it started and only 2 are showing the signs. Its not heat because one that is right beside it is under DIRECT light and shows no sign of stress. If you have seen this let me know.

Thats all for now

Until next week.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

What's the nute strength & pH for this one?

This might either be overfert or K toxicity, possibly from pH too low.

 

[sparkafire]

What's the nute strength & pH for this one?

This might either be overfert or K toxicity, possibly from pH too low.

AHHHHHH grasshopper needs a beat down!

I looked for quite awhile for those symptoms on RIU and could not find them.

Started using Kool Bloom and might (not saying i did ) but just might have over done it a bit
The rest of the plants are fine and the rest of the plant is fine so i didn't worry about it.

The PH is 5.8 always and running 1800 with Flora Nova Bloom.

This batch i got lazy and rounded up with the Flora Nova which i am sure along with the Kool Bloom put me out of whack.

Permanent damage?????

 

[Al B. Fuct]

ok, the flowering additives are probably P & K, explaining the problem. Yep, I think you may have emptied a clip into your boot.

Dump the nutes containing the P&K additive/s, do a flush with 5.8 water, discard the runoff. Run the affected plant/s on 5.8 water only for a week and see if it straightens up. It may, it may not.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

BTW, when you get to week 6 of flowering is the time to apply P&K additives, and for 1 week only. Reduce the nute strength in wk6 to 1000. Don't use flowering additives at any other time than in wk6.

 

[sparkafire]

Update on my ABF grow. We are at 28 days into Flower. I moved the the 28 day flower plants under the 1000W last night and started the 20 clones that i did 14 days ago.

Out of The 11 - 28 day plants i have 5 mothers in the mix when i moved them i got rid of 2 of the leggy plants they had grown out of my space and were not flowering like the rest. Unfortunately i had kept the mother of them when I pulled the other mothers to make room. I had started with 5 mothers.

I have 2 other mothers that are compact and making big buds. . I thought I had burned them up as you saw last week because of high P&K levels but instead they hardened and really put on weight. ?? who knows..

I am behind 2 weeks because of my laziness cleaning and the set didn't work but i am back on track with the new set i started last night using the 2 different mothers left. I will pick my mother from those 2.

Check out my new staking method i attached a plate to a 1/2 inch PVC pipe attaching the plant to it then adding the HYDROTON. It will have a brace that i don't have to worry about anymore.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

Mighty interesting way to stake the plant, but I'm a little concerned about the metal bit. Is that galvanised? If so, the acidic nute soln could leach zinc off the thing and into your nutes. Zinc is a micronute, but it is possible to induce zinc toxicity. Can you replace the metal bit with something made of plastic?

 

[sparkafire]

Mighty interesting way to stake the plant, but I'm a little concerned about the metal bit. Is that galvanised? If so, the acidic nute soln could leach zinc off the thing and into your nutes. Zinc is a micronute, but it is possible to induce zinc toxicity. Can you replace the metal bit with something made of plastic?

I KNEW you were going to say that !!! LOL yes it is galvanized and what are the symptoms ?

 

[Al B. Fuct]

oh crap, I know I've seen some pix of Zn tox before, lemme look...

here tis

Sorry, metals in a corrosive nute soln are a nono.

 

[sparkafire]

I will just have to keep an eye on them i dont think its wize to remove them now this is something that is not going to happen over night is it ?

 

[Al B. Fuct]

probably not overnight, but if you look at the galvanised bit and see any whitish corrosion on it, take it out. That corrosion will be zinc oxide. If present, it will be escaping into the nute soln.

 

[Al B. Fuct]

BTW, is that a piece of wooden doweling in the end of the PVC tube for fitting the plate? If so, I don't think that will last too long being submerged frequently... and may be a breeding point for anaerobic pathogens.

I think the PVC pipe alone, just jammed into the pellets, will make a dandy stake all by itself.