Caution: Stay away from Hydroponicshut.com!

Sorry about the long post but I think it is very necessary for people to be informed about company's who are in it for the money and themselves. Fuck that. I am putting them on blast.

I have had some serious problems with my first two PG400's I purchased in April 2016. The PG400 is not on there website anymore. A month later after initial purchase I have noticed that pg400 #1 was dimmer than pg400 #2. Another month later pg400 #1 blue spectrum completely went out. Unfortunately I couldn't get a refund because it was past due the refund date, but I did get an exchange. So once the newest pg400 #3 came in (i will assign it as pg400 #3) I immediately did a comparison with my initial purchase pg400 #2. I downloaded 2 different lux meter apps on my phone and did my test here is what I got:

pg400 LED#2:
Full spectrum: 1700 lx Veg spectrum: 155 lx Flower spectrum: 1025 lx
pg400 LED#3
Full Spectrum: 2400 lx Veg spectrum: 210 lx Flower spectrum: 1500 lx

I did numerous tests and I got similar readings. So that means my first two lights were both defective before they even left the warehouse. That means they do not even test them prior to shipment.

I sent Kristin from hydroponicshut an email once I knew the pg400 #2 was defective. this is the reply I got.
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Hello Kristin,

Hope all is well. After some speculation I have encountered another defective pg400. It is from my initial purchase. I will assign each pg400 Led light a reference number to make it easy to identify and explain to you what is going on.

I initially purchased two pg400's. I will name them LED#1 and LED#2. As you know LED#1 was defective and had that one returned and so I purchased another pg400(LED#3). I compared LED#2 with the newly purchased LED#3 with a lux meter and LED#3 was emitting more bright light than LED#2. I have tested it several times and this is what I got on average:

LED#2:
Full spectrum: 1700 lx Veg spectrum: 155 lx Flower spectrum: 1025 lx

LED#3
Full Spectrum: 2400 lx Veg spectrum: 210 lx Flower spectrum: 1500 lx

When I place each hand a few inches under both led lights while wearing sunglasses I can clearly see brighter light emitting onto the top of my hand from LED#3 than LED#2.

To save me the hassle and headache I am kindly requesting to send back LED#2 for a full refund. Waiting for your reply.
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Hello Sergei,

Our current refund policy is located here: https://www.hydroponicshut.com/terms-and-conditions.html/?___store=default

As your purchase is more than 30 days old we will be unable to refund your purchase price. All the units you purchased were functioning 100 percent upon shipment and frankly we've done all we can to help your situation.

I suggest you sell the units on a major auction channel such as eBay if they've been such an inconvenience to you. Our products have a great resale rate and I think this would be a great option for you.

Regards,

Kristin S.
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Then I emailed them asking about my 3 year warranty and have not heard from her, so I dropped it for 5 months. So I deicded to email them again with my same problem hoping I would get a different customer service rep. The person who emailed me back was Ben who is the owner of the company and has the youtube name: propagandapharms pretending to be a regular joe using only Hydroponicshut leds to grow his herb and saying it is the best. So I received an email from him and he had no clue about my problem because the communication was between Kristin and I only. So I let him know and I told him that Kristin gave me an unprofessional response and I demand to have my LED fixed which is under warranty. This was his response:

Benjamin (Hydroponics Hut LLC)

Dec 15, 12:19 COT

Hi Sergei,

Unfortunately there's nothing we can do in this circumstance as the units in your possession are functioning properly. The product in question is far from defective and will continue to bring you great results for years.

Kristin was correct, if you're not happy with the results you're receiving from the technology or the levels from your meter I would suggest you sell the units on eBay as well. Our products have a really great resale rate which I think will please you very much.

Have a terrific holidays,

www.hydroponicshut.com

Hydroponics Hut LLC

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That was the last I heard from Ben after several emails I sent to him still no response.
That concludes my rant about this company. Please buyer beware!!! STAY away from this company.

grow in peace,
asenshen
 
Can you post pictures of them?
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I see on their site the 400x. https://www.hydroponicshut.com/our-...oor-grow-light-growlight-hydroponics-hut.html

Is it close to that?

Man that's a lot of circles. 221x 3w..

"Triple stack"? Is this Wendys or McDonalds? Sorry for the cheesey.

Edit: Seriously, what is triple stack??
lmao. It is very similar but the only thing it doesn't have is those triple stack lenses. That triple stack penetrates more into the canopy unlike mine which are regular lenses.
 

RuRu.The.Half.Elf

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I did find an older RIU thread on those LEDs from Jan2014. Your best bet may be to save the cases for either a diy project or get a few bucks back buy selling them for parts.


My Google-fu must be sucking. I can't find what triple stack refers to so for now..




Edit: Wait.. The lens? Makes sense, and it doesn't.
 
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MMJ Dreaming 99

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Some people on RIU go mental when we say avoid old style Burples and Chinese crap. The crap pushed by Amazon and eBay are awful but Amazon is the worst. I know some people have decent luck with Vipars and other stuff but it is old technology.

Buy a T5 or T8 for veg and an HPS for flower before buying that stuff. All the COB DIY and QB board stuff is so much better than burple. F Amazon too and eBay.
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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lmao. It is very similar but the only thing it doesn't have is those triple stack lenses. That triple stack penetrates more into the canopy unlike mine which are regular lenses.
Buy a Samsung QB board from Steven's company and drop it inside that dead POS case. The QB Board is a bargain and will kick this whiz bang chinna box ass.

The Samsung QB Boards will penetrate much better than this China junk,
 

Hybridway

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I had a very similiar experience w/ those shit-bags at HH. Fucking garbage & even worse buss. Ethics. They told me to sell mine on e-bay too. Fuckers.
Here's a side by side grow using their Pro-Gro X5-500 fucking trash.
Check it out. Somewhere in here tells how they fucked me too. Loose components & the thing can't grow mold on shit.
If you get a minute, read through this. I had so much hope for their false claims. Lol! What a
https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-amare-hydroponics-hut-o-c-gg-4-grow.901851/page-4

Buy a real light n just let it go. Tell others of course but you'll never get anything back from HH. they are the worst buss. I've ever seen.
Same price as my Amare & it yielded (Amare) 11oz. More in a direct side by side.
HH Works in veg as long as it runs.
DO NOT BUY HYDROPONICS HUT. ITS A FUCKING SCAM.
Only HH has me swearing like this.
 
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MMJ Dreaming 99

Well-Known Member
I had a very similiar experience w/ those shit-bags at HH. Fucking garbage & even worse buss. Ethics. They told me to sell mine on e-bay too. Fuckers.
Here's a side by side grow using their Pro-Gro X5-500 fucking trash.
Check it out. Somewhere in here tells how they fucked me too. Loose components & the thing can't grow mold on shit.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-amare-hydroponics-hut-o-c-gg-4-grow.901851/page-4

Buy a real light n just let it go. Tell others of course but you'll never get anything back from HH. they are the worst buss. I've ever seen.
Same price as my Amare & it yielded (Amare) 11oz. More in a direct side by side.
HH Works in veg as long as it runs.
DO NOT BUY HYDROPONICS HUT. ITS A FUCKING SCAM.
He of she might be able to use the case to drop in a QB board or do a Grow Mau5 COB hack to it. The drivers may be shot and they can only use the case. They should check out the QB Boards thread on LED Forum.

One or two people hacked their old MArs Hydro case and dropped in a QB Board. The guy with the golden death mask avatar did and it rocks.
 

frica

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Some people on RIU go mental when we say avoid old style Burples and Chinese crap. The crap pushed by Amazon and eBay are awful but Amazon is the worst. I know some people have decent luck with Vipars and other stuff but it is old technology.
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It's mostly that those companies don't renew the diodes on panels as LED manufacturers bring out newer more efficient gens.
To the point where good light bulbs are significantly better and cheaper than most if not all of those panels by now.
 

Hybridway

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When it comes to HH, they don't care about tech changes or even if the product works s little. All they care about is taking your $$$ n run. Don't honor warranties, don't care a bit. I told them their design trapped dirt on the inside of the lenses. They told me to keep a cleaner room. WTF. my shit stays clean. Airborn dirt n dust. The fan is connected to the sink is connected to the cobs n diodes but then what. Then it's just one big jiggling around peice-o-shit. image.jpgimage.jpg Beware: total garbage.
Bout to maybe replace the cobs. But maybe not. Just use it for veg. $800 veg light.
Oh yeah, HH told me to sell it to some unsuspecting sucker.
Anybody need a great led that "exceeds the growth rate of the sun itself?" All in one spectrum! Common guys, it's got cobs! Aww, nobody wants my professional HH LED. Shucks, what to do now.
 
What is the glass dimensions? Are you willing to do a little diy investigating?
I didn't mean to give you guys the impression that the unit is not working. I just turned off the lights and took a photo. It works but not as strong as his other partner. Really appreciate you guys giving me info on how to fix if it ever fails on me. BUUUT, I am very intrigued with people making there own DIY led systems. I am very interested and have been doing some research on that topic.


Anybody need a great led that "exceeds the growth rate of the sun itself?" All in one spectrum! Common guys, it's got cobs! Aww, nobody wants my professional HH LED. Shucks, what to do now.
lol @Hybridway the sun itself wooooooooooooow! dude they got us bro haha. its ok we learn and move on to the next. :)
Now I am very aware of what to look for as I am gaining more knowledge in this field
 
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