Now legal. Wut 'bout landlord trouble?

[Phatlewtz]

Yes we can. If we find something like that in OUR property, we have every right to know what it is. If you refuse to let us examine what is in the box we can call the police and have them open it.

You really need to educate yourself on the law before you wind up like the countless other people that THINK they know their rights that are completely clueless about them that wind up doing 18 months in jail over it.

Spot on buddy! I do have a question since I seen your name...last time I seen a Taco Mac was in Hotlanta off of Jimmy Carter near stone mountain...any correlation?

lived in tucker for a year+ and now I miss it because of your name

 

[TacoMac]

LOL!

TacoMac's are all over the place here. There's one right up the road about 3 miles in Suwanee, Ga.

I got the nickname from the one my old boss and I went to after work each day on Roswell Road in Sandy Springs. It's still there.

 

[Tim Fox]

I am a landlord. I know the law on that.

You get caught growing against your lease, I can evict you in 30 days. You get caught stealth growing, I can have the sheriffs department at your front door in 24 hours to toss everything you own and you into the street.

That's all there is to it.

And pal, no stealth in the world is going to protect you from a person unlocking your door, walking into your house, and looking around every room in it and finding that grow.

And it's all perfectly legal and within the rights of the landlord.

Roll the dice if you want. The only reason you don't get caught is dumb luck. If not for that, you'll be one of those on here posting about how they got caught and wound up in a huge tight spot...or worse.

do you have any clue how many people on this web site grow dope illegally,,, 90 percent easy,,,
so YES we all Roll our dice,, because we like growing,

 

[Tim Fox]

Yes we can. If we find something like that in OUR property, we have every right to know what it is. If you refuse to let us examine what is in the box we can call the police and have them open it.

You really need to educate yourself on the law before you wind up like the countless other people that THINK they know their rights that are completely clueless about them that wind up doing 18 months in jail over it.

the police need a search warrant,, nice try

 

[Tim Fox]

Roll the dice if you want. The only reason you don't get caught is dumb luck. If not for that, you'll be one of those on here posting about how they got caught and wound up in a huge tight spot...or worse.

sorry brother,, I OWN my own house,, and if you come inside some peoples houses you will meet thier cold steel,,I grow in a REC legal state and I grow within the boudaries of the Law that you claim to know so much about,, dont go around throwing your BS ,, trying to scare people,,, you dont get the last word on everything, you bully people with your words ,
you would be so surprised at how stealth a grow can be, they are probably right under your nose,, but your too arrogant to know,
people do what they have to do, inspite of people like you

 

[nfhiggs]

sorry brother,, I OWN my own house,, and if you come inside some peoples houses you will meet thier cold steel,,I grow in a REC legal state and I grow within the boudaries of the Law that you claim to know so much about,, dont go around throwing your BS ,, trying to scare people,,, you dont get the last word on everything, you bully people with your words ,
you would be so surprised at how stealth a grow can be, they are probably right under your nose,, but your too arrogant to know,
people do what they have to do, inspite of people like you

Lighten up. He is trying to EDUCATE people on what they risk and what a LANDLORD can do when they are RENTING their home. No one said a damn thing about people growing in their own home.

 

[nfhiggs]

the police need a search warrant,, nice try

They need one when THEY are initiating a search - unless they have probable cause. The homeowner suspecting something illegal going on and REQUESTING their property be searched does not require a warrant.

Nice try.

 

[TacoMac]

the police need a search warrant,, nice try

No, they do not. If a tenant refuses to show me something I think may be illegal or dangerous on my property I can give the police consent to enter and search that property.

That is the law.

sorry brother,, I OWN my own house,,

And nobody cares, dipshit. This thread is about people RENTING A PROPERTY. All of my statements cover that scenario.

Learn to read. It'll make you look a hell of a lot less stupid. Well...you can hope, at any rate.

 

[Tim Fox]

No, they do not. If a tenant refuses to show me something I think may be illegal or dangerous on my property I can give the police consent to enter and search that property.

That is the law.



And nobody cares, dipshit. This thread is about people RENTING A PROPERTY. All of my statements cover that scenario.

Learn to read. It'll make you look a hell of a lot less stupid. Well...you can hope, at any rate.

 

[KryptoBud]

Now that I can grow six at a time in Cali (3 in veg ,3 in flower). Can my land lord still threaten to kick me out. I know I won't be hearing "I'm calling the cops if you don't cut 'em", ever again. About 3 years ago he did while trying to show him my medical license. It was legal but I didn't want any more trouble from LAPD. They can be dicks. Especially when called out for non violent matters... They don't get to blast at people...

People can't walk in to your house whenever they feel like it, unless it's an emergency like a gas leak or broken water pipe. Most states I've seen require a minimum of 24hr notice. Either way you should respect their property. If your only growing a couple plants for yourself explain it to him that way, no holes in the walls, water damage, or ridiculous electric bills or fire hazards. If he says no find a new place to live where the landlord is more accepting of it. I own a house and have been growing in it 8 or 9 years, I don't think I'd let someone grow in it using multiple HID's and the rest of the equipment needed, but a couple plants in a small tent if it's legal where you are I wouldn't have a problem with it. Hiding it is bad ju ju could come back to bite you in the ass someday. Here's the laws for each state.
http://www.landlord.com/landlord_right_of_entry_by_state.htm

 

[Tim Fox]

People can't walk in to your house whenever they feel like it, unless it's an emergency like a gas leak or broken water pipe. Most states I've seen require a minimum of 24hr notice. Either way you should respect their property. If your only growing a couple plants for yourself explain it to him that way, no holes in the walls, water damage, or ridiculous electric bills or fire hazards. If he says no find a new place to live where the landlord is more accepting of it. I own a house and have been growing in it 8 or 9 years, I don't think I'd let someone grow in it using multiple HID's and the rest of the equipment needed, but a couple plants in a small tent if it's legal where you are I wouldn't have a problem with it. Hiding it is bad ju ju could come back to bite you in the ass someday. Here's the laws for each state.
http://www.landlord.com/landlord_right_of_entry_by_state.htm

Exactly Right, very well said
nice list of laws,, Renters have RIGHTs too,,

 

[Tim Fox]

California CFor the sake of retention of one’s tenants and the avoidance of strife during tenancy, the keys to exercise of the right to entry are as follows. 1. Enter as infrequently as possible. 2. Always give ample notice and, if possible, allow rescheduling of the entry at least once to accommodate the tenant. 3. Always enter with a clearly defined objective in mind, and notify the tenant of it unless there is a strong reason not to do so.ivil Code
Civil Code Sec. 1954. Landlord must give reasonable notice except in case of emergency when no notice is necessary. A writing is not explicitly required. Twenty-four hours is rebuttably presumed to be reasonable.

Sorry @TacoMac you words differ with the Law of California,,
So while you think i cannot read,, well I did,, and i read the Civil code,, and according to the LAW your tennants can take you to court and sue you up and own and sideways
hows what for reading what the OP wanted
@TacoMac http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/civil-code/civ-sect-1954.html

For the sake of retention of one’s tenants and the avoidance of strife during tenancy, the keys to exercise of the right to entry are as follows. 1. Enter as infrequently as possible. 2. Always give ample notice and, if possible, allow rescheduling of the entry at least once to accommodate the tenant. 3. Always enter with a clearly defined objective in mind, and notify the tenant of it unless there is a strong reason not to do so.

 

[nfhiggs]

California CFor the sake of retention of one’s tenants and the avoidance of strife during tenancy, the keys to exercise of the right to entry are as follows. 1. Enter as infrequently as possible. 2. Always give ample notice and, if possible, allow rescheduling of the entry at least once to accommodate the tenant. 3. Always enter with a clearly defined objective in mind, and notify the tenant of it unless there is a strong reason not to do so.ivil Code
Civil Code Sec. 1954. Landlord must give reasonable notice except in case of emergency when no notice is necessary. A writing is not explicitly required. Twenty-four hours is rebuttably presumed to be reasonable.

Sorry @TacoMac you words differ with the Law of California,,
So while you think i cannot read,, well I did,, and i read the Civil code,, and according to the LAW your tennants can take you to court and sue you up and own and sideways
hows what for reading what the OP wanted
@TacoMac http://codes.findlaw.com/ca/civil-code/civ-sect-1954.html

For the sake of retention of one’s tenants and the avoidance of strife during tenancy, the keys to exercise of the right to entry are as follows. 1. Enter as infrequently as possible. 2. Always give ample notice and, if possible, allow rescheduling of the entry at least once to accommodate the tenant. 3. Always enter with a clearly defined objective in mind, and notify the tenant of it unless there is a strong reason not to do so.

Cali does indeed have one of the stronger sets of tenant rights laws on the books. But not *every* state does.

However I would note that it does include a clause for "a strong reason not to do so". Suspected illegal activity falls under that provision.

Edit: And yes, I am aware its now legal to grow in Cali.

 

[Tim Fox]

Cali does indeed have one of the stronger sets of tenant rights laws orightsarebooks. But not *every* state does.

However I would note that it does include a clause for "a strong reason not to do so". Suspected illegal activity falls under that provision.

Edit: And yes, I am aware its now legal to grow in Cali.

I suppose that brings me back around to stealth, If the landlord has no suspicion of illegal activity then the tenants rights are in place, in which case 24 hours notice applies and the grower can put his plant at abuddies house heck I have heard of guys hiding a plant in thier cat during an inspection

 

[nfhiggs]

I suppose that brings me back around to stealth, If the landlord has no suspicion of illegal activity then the tenants rights are in place, in which case 24 hours notice applies and the grower can put his plant at abuddies house heck I have heard of guys hiding a plant in thier cat during an inspection

Personally I just wouldn't recommend it. Too much risk of getting booted out of your home, unless you know the landlord is cool with it. I thought about doing a grow for the last couple years, but even though it would be legal, I was not willing to take the risk while renting an apartment.

 

[Tim Fox]

That makes sense for sure

I didn't like the way taco dude was just going to throw growers to the cops like a nark , like Mr Scrooge the mortgage holder

 

[Tim Fox]

I grew in California in the 80s under Reagan, was a rental tri Plex , in the garage Landlord Never found it , would have been hard time back then

 

[nfhiggs]

That makes sense for sure

I didn't like the way taco dude was just going to throw growers to the cops like a nark , like Mr Scrooge the mortgage holder

I think you misinterpreted his message. He was explaining how things *could go* from the property owners side and how the law generally favors the property owner - not necessarily implying that's what he would actually do.

 

[Tim Fox]

I think you misinterpreted his message. He was explaining how things *could go* from the property owners side and how the law generally favors the property owner - not necessarily implying that's what he would actually do.

Let's hope so

 

[srh88]

Now that it's legal where you are it sounds like a civil matter.. if it's not in your lease.. fuck it