Spring '17

[sandhill larry]

Sorry I just found this thread instead if the earlier weather one. Buttt....
I'm looking to grow the strain 2046 outdoors.... The stats are remarkable... High yield and the content.... But this plant takes a very long time from seed to harvest.... I'm just wondering what month to plant? Because I know the rains start in June here in florida and goes till prob august.... And I'm not real sure when to plant.... Any ideas???? A few of my friends are preparing to plant some white widow, blueberry, and candy creme in may. Should I plant then or wait longer? Are they even correct to be planting in may here in florida? I'm fairly new and always looking to learn. Thanks in advance!

It is according to how far south you are. Start time is also very strain dependent. If you are vegging inside under lights you just need to pick your outside date according to the length of day and the strain. Last year I started way too early. Like in late February and early March, and had a world of early flower problems. April or May should be safe anywhere in the state.

 

[sandhill larry]

Haha This gets me every time. I thought the "Fromage de Ane" or whatever it was sounded rather clever, myself, but for sure some good strain names. I'm not going to lie, I would have a hard time NOT buying some dank called ass cheese. Lol worth picking up just get tell people what your smoking on. Larry's Ass Cheese

Fromage de Ane is French for Ass {or Jack} Cheese. Just like Raisin de Gorille is Grape Ape. Google translate is a wonderful tool.

 

[sandhill larry]

Might be extra popular with the gay scene. You never know about these things.

So my ad campaign to that community could feature a guy in leather milking a donkey? Get your Ass Cheese straight from the source.

 

[WV: Jetson]

Have you seen Clerks II?

 

[sandhill larry]

Have you seen Clerks II?

I have not. But after a quick Google search, I learned of Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud. I stopped reading there.

 

[Mike wanker]

It is according to how far south you are. Start time is also very strain dependent. If you are vegging inside under lights you just need to pick your outside date according to the length of day and the strain. Last year I started way too early. Like in late February and early March, and had a world of early flower problems. April or May should be safe anywhere in the state.

I am actually starting outside from seed I'm in southern florida so does that change anything? I should still start in may?

 

[ttystikk]

I am actually starting outside from seed I'm in southern florida so does that change anything? I should still start in may?

I think you'll have better luck with sativa strains, better acclimated to climate and timing.

 

[sandhill larry]

You will be fine in May.

If you will go to https://www.wunderground.com/q/zmw:32801.1.99999 you can find out your length of day. That is for Orlando, but just put in your zip and it will bring it up for your town. Just scroll down to the Astronomy section and check it out. A general rule of thumb is when your days are longer than 13 1/2 hours, it is safe. That is actual length of day, not length of visible light} But strains vary. The best way to learn is record when yours start to flower this year for each strain. Start a notebook, even if it's on RIU. Record start and finish dates so you can look back.

This may or may not help, but when you are figuring, remember that with most strains you have 3-4 weeks before the plants are sexually mature. They won't flower until they reach that point. But I wouldn't cut it too close if I was you. Too much down side for early flower.

 

[sandhill larry]

I am actually starting outside from seed I'm in southern florida so does that change anything? I should still start in may?

Next Winter you should do a Spring crop. You don't have to worry about the cold like I do. Summers in south Florida are a bitch for growing, or so I have heard.

 

[ttystikk]

Another option is a midnight light; run something for 30 minutes or so in the middle of the night. This may or may not be practical where you are.

 

[sandhill larry]

Another option is a midnight light; run something for 30 minutes or so in the middle of the night. This may or may not be practical where you are.

I thought about mentioning that, but didn't want to induce information overload.

 

[Mike wanker]

You will be fine in May.

If you will go to https://www.wunderground.com/q/zmw:32801.1.99999 you can find out your length of day. That is for Orlando, but just put in your zip and it will bring it up for your town. Just scroll down to the Astronomy section and check it out. A general rule of thumb is when your days are longer than 13 1/2 hours, it is safe. That is actual length of day, not length of visible light} But strains vary. The best way to learn is record when yours start to flower this year for each strain. Start a notebook, even if it's on RIU. Record start and finish dates so you can look back.

This may or may not help, but when you are figuring, remember that with most strains you have 3-4 weeks before the plants are sexually mature. They won't flower until they reach that point. But I wouldn't cut it too close if I was you. Too much down side for early flower.

Soooo I want my plants to flower exactly when.... Before the most amount of light durring it l or after it????

 

[CallmeTex]

Great thread already. Very interesting with the spring crop. When do you think these will be done Larry? Like april or may?

 

[Mike wanker]

You will be fine in May.

If you will go to https://www.wunderground.com/q/zmw:32801.1.99999 you can find out your length of day. That is for Orlando, but just put in your zip and it will bring it up for your town. Just scroll down to the Astronomy section and check it out. A general rule of thumb is when your days are longer than 13 1/2 hours, it is safe. That is actual length of day, not length of visible light} But strains vary. The best way to learn is record when yours start to flower this year for each strain. Start a notebook, even if it's on RIU. Record start and finish dates so you can look back.

This may or may not help, but when you are figuring, remember that with most strains you have 3-4 weeks before the plants are sexually mature. They won't flower until they reach that point. But I wouldn't cut it too close if I was you. Too much down side for early flower.

Okay I just looked and may 13 the day length is 13:30.08. On june 21 it is the longest day length at 13.54.56. Given that information what do y'all think I should do. And I cannot use any light at night it will be too obvious.

 

[sandhill larry]

Soooo I want my plants to flower exactly when.... Before the most amount of light durring it l or after it????

If you are talking full season plants, late August or early September is most likely. When the nights start to get longer in the fall.

 

[sandhill larry]

Great thread already. Very interesting with the spring crop. When do you think these will be done Larry? Like april or may?

Thanks for stopping by.

I don't have that long. I'm hoping I have some 8 week strains. I know the CP1's and Slo2 take 9 or 10 weeks, so those won't make it to the finish. The Bag Seed Testers from last season {Peach, Little Sister, Rotten Stinking Bastard and Hurricane Head were close to 8 weeks, so they should finish. The new strains are new to me, so I don't know what to expect from them.

 

[sandhill larry]

Okay I just looked and may 13 the day length is 13:30.08. On june 21 it is the longest day length at 13.54.56. Given that information what do y'all think I should do. And I cannot use any light at night it will be too obvious.

May is still a good starting point for you. I was just showing you why you want to start then. Plants start to flower when the nights get longer than a certain point. That is why you have to wait to plant in the spring, and what makes them flower in the fall. You are doing the right thing to ask.

When I was a younger grower, I didn't know why they flowered in the fall. I had a cousin who had grown for years, and he told me it was the cold weather. Lots of bad information out there. It is pretty simple when you have a basic understanding of what makes them tick.

 

[CallmeTex]

Thanks for stopping by.

I don't have that long. I'm hoping I have some 8 week strains. I know the CP1's and Slo2 take 9 or 10 weeks, so those won't make it to the finish. The Bag Seed Testers from last season {Peach, Little Sister, Rotten Stinking Bastard and Hurricane Head were close to 8 weeks, so they should finish. The new strains are new to me, so I don't know what to expect from them.

So you've grown some of them before as a spring crop. Do you notice them being stretchier or more leafy because of the day length getting longer? I'm guessing you're probably in USDA Zone 9 to pull off the spring crop? Lots of questions, thanks for sharing.

 

[Mike wanker]

May is still a good starting point for you. I was just showing you why you want to start then. Plants start to flower when the nights get longer than a certain point. That is why you have to wait to plant in the spring, and what makes them flower in the fall. You are doing the right thing to ask.

When I was a younger grower, I didn't know why they flowered in the fall. I had a cousin who had grown for years, and he told me it was the cold weather. Lots of bad information out there. It is pretty simple when you have a basic understanding of what makes them tick.

Thanks so much I understand everything now! One more question.... I know when the 3rd or 4th node appears you can top the plant and cut the under brush. I have seen videos of people cutting all the fan leaves accept the ones at the top of the flower where the bud is well into flowering.... They say by doing this more energy will go to the buds and you will have a bigger crop with more thc..... Is this correct or can you really mess up your crop.... Many people say yes many say no....

 

[sandhill larry]

Thanks so much I understand everything now! One more question.... I know when the 3rd or 4th node appears you can top the plant and cut the under brush. I have seen videos of people cutting all the fan leaves accept the ones at the top of the flower where the bud is well into flowering.... They say by doing this more energy will go to the buds and you will have a bigger crop with more thc..... Is this correct or can you really mess up your crop.... Many people say yes many say no....

I do some topping, but have never removed leaves. They are the solar panels that power the plant. The more they have the better.