They SUGGEST pH@5.8 newbie begs to differ pH@5.5 with 6.5max Fluctuation

[MaloMAL]

You put those plants at that size and condition into flower? How much do you think you can yield off of them?

So are they unhealthy or not sir
, I need a solution if so they are. Thank you

 

[MickFoster]

I'm over this idiotic thread. Good luck with your future grows.

Peace.

 

[cool2burn]

I've been pH adjusting my "ladies" since 12/26/16 to pH@5.8 during my whole GROW. During this time I've experienced yellowing between the veins of my new growth along with some older leaves. During the past weeks I've had this issue although the plants were developing new growth. I've tried to, in minimal portions, add nutrients after seeing that my PPMs were low or adjusting pH back to pH@5.8. Now, I've been doing this faithfully and haven't seen any results much. My notes do show that when my pH was accidentally dropped a few times below 5.8 at exactly pH@5.4 I saw what I believed the next day to be "improvement". However, that was "short-lived" the following next 2 days according to my notes when my pH was adjusted back to pH@5.8. The leaves, again, began to yellow along the new growth and old leaves. This past week I've been analyzing my PRECISE "notes" I've saw a pattern where leaves would improve during times my pH was "OFF". I began to run test on some,3.5 weeks EXACT since Germination, plants of the same strain. I pH adjusted 2 plants at a routine rate of pH@5.8 with a fluctuation ranging max @6.5 during all 3.5 weeks my leaves were yellowing. I pH adjusted 2 other at the same routine rate of pH@5.5 with a fluctuation ranging max pH@6.3 NO yellowing appears what so ever. Both plants were tested using NO nutrients.

What I found is that at a range of pH@5.8 the plant does not receive enough "manganese". My test have concluded that at pH@5.8 the plants new growth has extreme yellow along with old growth. My test showed that pH@5.5 displays no yellowing on any parts of the leaves.

Function: Manganese is used in plants as a major contributor to various biological systems including photosynthesis, respiration, and nitrogen assimilation. Manganese is also involved in pollen germination, pollen tube growth, root cell elongation and resistance to root pathogens. SOURCE (http://www.pthorticulture.com/en/training-center/role-of-manganese-in-plant-culture/)

I'm not sure if I'm CORRECT, though my test show I could be. To keep your pH@5.5 during your whole growth can induce toxicity in the plant as manganese is needed only in very small portions and is easily consumed at pH&5.5. I recommend starting the week at pH@5.5 and continuously lowering pH if needed to no LOWER than pH@5.8 as most important nutrients such as Calcium and Mangnesium aren't consumed anywhere below pH@5.8557*.

That is what I have discovered during my past 3.5 weeks of Germination for the SWEET TOOTH KUSH. Please EXPRESS yourself freely even if it is harsh. I am not offended as this was a test that solely proved plants needed a pH@5.5 during the start of my week. I could be wrong. I just don't see how if my test showed otherwise. Unfortunately, I didn't take photographs. I will my next test pH test @2/28/17

To solve all these issues i just Switched to Advanced Nutrients... Have not used my Pen in 2 months now. PH perfect is worth the extra cash for DWC especially.

 

[lio lacidem]

Yes your plants are unhealthy and unhappy. You are a beginner so try listening to people with way more experience then yourself. Also you keep saying experiment but to do a proper experiment you need more test subjects and they all need to be done exactly same. Same pheno same grow style same topping same everything. Then you need many other subjects to grow at opposite of test subject. So your "experiment" results mean nothing

 

[rkymtnman]

I never said that at all, dude you have trouble reading sir

are you mentally stable? you said all 6 plants in the dwc were getting "no nutrients".

i'm reading but i'm not believing that the slight difference b/t 5.5 and 5.8 makes a plant either yellow or green. there are so many other variables: is each bucket the exact same ppm?

Yes papa if you read some of responses I wrote to Another user everything is the EXACT same. NO NUTRIENTS.

so i asked is the ppm the same in every bucket and you said yes papa they are the exact same NO NUTRIENTS. this is called a question and then a reply from you papa. got it?

 

[rkymtnman]

They began to yellow soon after 4 days from sprout,

hey papa, they need food. when my kid was 4 days old, we had to feed her. did you starve your child until they were 8 yrs old?

 

[rkymtnman]

Well I have many nutes you tell me which to go with LMFAO.

i'd go with organics in dwc. make sure you add molasses. and a secret trick is brewer's yeast too every 5 days. ROFLMFAO

 

[Tangerine_]

This thread is all over the place with very little hard true science...other than the few replies from those attempting to decipher it. Any "newbs" reading this would do well to either skip it or head over to the advanced growing section.

 

[a senile fungus]

1 star thread, merely because it amused me.

OP is another Google scientist with no experience and all the researches.

Manganese, lol.

Next we'll be hearing about molybdenum @ 5.35pH, can't wait to see that "experiment".

To anyone reading this from the future, please disregard all content that the OP considers educational and simply enjoy for comedic content.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

Yes papa if you read some of responses I wrote to Another user everything is the EXACT same. NO NUTRIENTS. Your wrong sir. Look up the science of manganese in a plant and it will INDICATE to you exactly how it DERIVES the exchange in chemicals that keep a plant green. READ READ READ READ. MOST PEOPLE HERE GET INFO FROM JORGE CERVANTA HAHAHAHAHAHA OR CHICH AND CHONG

You're an idiot.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

You are so wrong my GUY, GAIN read the responses I've given another user. I also shows that I have took the EXTENSIVE time to research what elements are in my municipical water and the Poland spring bottle. EVERY CHEMICAL used to enrich the water are used as nutrients from a plant. Dude. If that's the case, because with all due respect you aren't full thinking your responses, you'd realize, wait then why didn't the other plant yellow, hmmm. AGAIN, it was starting @5.8 in comparison to the one starting at 5.5. I hear what your saying but that's irrelevant in pertinence to my test considering they are VERY much sufficient nutrients in my water to provide the plant with vigorous SHORT TERM growth. No I'm not wrong either dude. Look at your chart, can't even feed a roach with much manganese LMFAO ¡,,,

Wow.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

I will start the feed on them this Friday using general go box. Your really telling me to use nutes on seedlings. I'm going to ignore that for a bit. Lmfao

WTF???

This thread is complete nonsense.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

So are they unhealthy or not sir
, I need a solution if so they are. Thank you

Is English your first language? If so, do you have some kind of mental issue or leaning disability?

 

[rkymtnman]

This thread is complete nonsense.

i think he'll be fine if he sticks to my advice in post 67.

 

[rkymtnman]

Is English your first language? If so, do you have some kind of mental issue or leaning disability?

he's deficient in Manganese obviously.

 

[MickFoster]

he's deficient in Manganese obviously.

He's deficient in brain cells obviously.

 

[Johnny Lawrence]

he's deficient in Manganese obviously.

lol

 

[MaloMAL]

Mick my brother, you didn't respond anything, I think your message was areased accidentally. Hope today's has been a good day for you all. Bless

 

[MaloMAL]

To solve all these issues i just Switched to Advanced Nutrients... Have not used my Pen in 2 months now. PH perfect is worth the extra cash for DWC especially.

I have plenty ADVANCED NUTRIENTS. shoot me your recipe I'll use it for my next Grow and tag you on the forum. Shoot me it. I'll guarantee I'll get it done. Send me all your specs set up and nutrients I have a lot of advanced nutrient products. Again shoot away brother, I'm all ears¡

 

[MaloMAL]

Yes your plants are unhealthy and unhappy. You are a beginner so try listening to people with way more experience then yourself. Also you keep saying experiment but to do a proper experiment you need more test subjects and they all need to be done exactly same. Same pheno same grow style same topping same everything. Then you need many other subjects to grow at opposite of test subject. So your "experiment" results mean nothing

Im not being stubborn just so you know, I have a strong belief in order to prosper you must learn from your environment and those alongside it. Every contribution is necessary for me to learn. I'm sorry you got the impression that I believe I know more. If you fully read the forum you would see at conclusion where I've stated, I may be wrong. That this what a test performed with my conditions and could be irrelevant from the actual facts. I did this to keep an unbiased and protect myself from those who believe I'm concluding something. Please take the time to fully read my forum as any information left out makes an argument weak. I do understand your concerns and I appreciate them. Now you stated they are unhealthy and unhappy. Those are pure problems, when you ready for a solution, I'm all ears, until then I cannot consume from belligerence. Thank you.