did Obama have less power then Trump

esh dov ets

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I wasn't implying that the people you were talking about were mormons, I was simply stating that mormons have a similar belief regarding wealth being bestowed by god on especially worthy people, therefore the rich are seen as being spiritually superior.

My father was a pentecostal minister who did missionary work in Guatemala in the early '60s
i think it runs it Christian churches. some don't teach that or reject it, which is why some true Christian humanitarians exist.
 

Huckster79

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Long live Pope Francis! Im still more progressive than he, but what a great and constant message about humanitarianism and wealth. I love that he just said better to be a goodnaitheist than a hypocritical christian.
 

ttystikk

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No way he could alienate his conservative christian followers... totally impossible! He is their new Pontiff, if he does it its okay by them. Can you imagine a dem who was thrice married cheated on all of em kids with two or three of em, who made cameo appearances in cheezy PORN videos, bragged of sexual assault, ran casinos, etc etc etc what the religous right would say about supporting them? Would ,ake their opposition to Obama seem like a girl scout bonfire gathering, they would freek.

But seeing he is head of the Party of God (in their mind not reality) then anything he does is okay and if not its instantly forgiven....

He alone is not the problem, it is the fact such fear and anger has taken root in so many hearts... that is what must be overcome. Otherwise the face and name will change but the message and fucked up policies will stay. I fear Mikhail Gorbachev is right that the winds of war are stirring in the world (not verbatim).
Imagine; anytime they ever being it up again, you can just say, "well YOU voted for Trump, so you must think that's okay!"
 

ttystikk

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I wasn't implying that the people you were talking about were mormons, I was simply stating that mormons have a similar belief regarding wealth being bestowed by god on especially worthy people, therefore the rich are seen as being spiritually superior.

My father was a pentecostal minister who did missionary work in Guatemala in the early '60s
Well isn't that an awfully convenient teaching?
 

ttystikk

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Hopefully they have a nice reading out of Two Corinthians! Lmao. I laugh but its really not funny how the billionaire class has partnered with the GOP and twist religion to make followers better sheep.

I beleive one of most important thing you can teach kids is a bit of healthy skepticism and how to think crotically. We wouldnt be in this mess we are now if Americal Electorate could think critically.

If they could President Sanders would be removing cannabis off the list of most dangerous drugs in the world, Obamacare would still be on the chopping block but because there would be progressive majorities and medicare for all would be in the works.

God how aweful that world would be. I love this fear filled, racial charged, scared of each other shit we got now. Great? Who the eff is this cluster fuck great for???

Yes im pissed this is stupid, i thought we were smarter than this...we went from being the example to the rest of the world to the laughingstock.
It turns out scared, hateful people are easy to control and profit from. Happy people are much harder to control.
 

ttystikk

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Long live Pope Francis! Im still more progressive than he, but what a great and constant message about humanitarianism and wealth. I love that he just said better to be a goodnaitheist than a hypocritical christian.
He's a class act, definitely has my respect for what he's done with his office.
 

ttystikk

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that would explain alot.
How else to sell $3 TRILLION DOLLARS worth of crappy obsolete fighter planes to a country that doesn't need them in a time of relative peace when we already spend as much on our military as the next dozen nations combined?

Fear and greed. Ignorance helps too, and under funding schools frees up more money for tax breaks for 'job creators'.

Follow the money. It goes everywhere. Explains everything. Journalist's favorite hobby, which is why they got rid of them.
 

esh dov ets

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How else to sell $3 TRILLION DOLLARS worth of crappy obsolete fighter planes to a country that doesn't need them in a time of relative peace when we already spend as much on our military as the next dozen nations combined?

Fear and greed. Ignorance helps too, and under funding schools frees up more money for tax breaks for 'job creators'.

Follow the money. It goes everywhere. Explains everything. Journalist's favorite hobby, which is why they got rid of them.
there is a history of propaganda aimed at keeping folks unhappy and promoting national and city level initiatives down to side walk size to not promote things to make people happy. i may get into that later
 
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