Study: Hillary Clinton’s TV ads were almost entirely policy-free

[Wilderb]

Maybe you don't really want some of those choices. They deregulated utilities here. There are 100 phone calls a week, people knocking on my door all the time to get me to change suppliers.

And every single fucking one is just like a credit card offer.

Low introductory rate, and BANG. You're paying double. Every time, all kinds of complaints.

Fuck all this deregulation. They let companies make more money. I've seen it personally. I've heard friends complain.

Their goal is to get more money, not save you money. Then they say, 'well, you had a choice'.

It's crooked as fuck.

While I agree about that, at least you have a choice. Water bills have tripled in my area in last two years. Internet doubled in same time.

 

[ttystikk]

Very popular. He carried my state in the primary. Even some of the old Rs I know voted for him. I believe one of the main reasons she lost our state. First time since '84 we went red for president.

If Bernie's story is typical of how our political system treats candidates who try to actually solve the People's problems, there is little hope for our country.

They're closing off the only alternative to revolution, and I mean it when I say that I've seen revolution up close and I would do nearly anything to avoid it.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

While I agree about that, at least you have a choice. Water bills have tripled in my area in last two years. Internet doubled in same time.

Well, yeah. But all the choices seem bad except the default supplier. These companies actually send damn good looking college girls in T-shirts house to house during the summer. Every kid who can't get a date lets them in.

Then, they change suppliers and get fucked 3 or 6 months later. And NOT by the girl in the T-shirt.

My water bill went way up too. The lines are going bad after 50 years and it costs a fortune to fix them.

Water isn't deregulated, there can only be one company in a locality for that, I believe.

You should be able to have internet choices. Cable co., telephone co., wireless co., etc.

 

[Wilderb]

If Bernie's story is typical of how our political system treats candidates who try to actually solve the People's problems, there is little hope for our country.

They're closing off the only alternative to revolution, and I mean it when I say that I've seen revolution up close and I would do nearly anything to avoid it.

I don't blame the dems entirely. Bernie is an I, not a dem. But I do believe that we need to change the system to allow 3 party people to run a realistic campaign. Lots of things need tweaking for that to happen. Of course, that would weaken the two party system so I won't be holding my breath.

 

[Wilderb]

Well, yeah. But all the choices seem bad except the default supplier. These companies actually send damn good looking college girls in T-shirts house to house during the summer. Every kid who can't get a date lets them in.

Then, they change suppliers and get fucked 3 or 6 months later. And NOT by the girl in the T-shirt.

My water bill went way up too. The lines are going bad after 50 years and it costs a fortune to fix them.

Water isn't deregulated, there can only be one company in a locality for that, I believe.

You should be able to have internet choices. Cable co., telephone co., wireless co., etc.

Only one phone company.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Only one phone company.

No cable, wireless phone? They all offer internet around here. Several wireless companies.

 

[ttystikk]

Only one phone company.

I ditched the phone company monopoly before the turn of the century. Now the fastest, best connected personal computer I've ever owned sits comfortably in my hand while I Swype these words on the touch screen.

Choice and competition works.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Yep, that's the attitude alright.

Him and Hillary couldve worked magic together and unified the party

 

[ttystikk]

Him and Hillary couldve worked magic together and unified the party

The party establishment needed to be kicked to the curb.

It hasn't happened yet, in site of recent events.

 

[Padawanbater2]

The number one priority of the Democratic party is to beat progressives, not Republicans

If a progressive wins, the Democratic party loses its ability to fund their campaigns through corporate finance, this is the ultimate disaster for establishment Democrats who are currently in office. They know their record of kowtowing to corporate interests over the years will very quickly come to light and they will be voted out of office in favor of the progressive alternative.

If a Republican wins, they know they won't do anything about campaign finance reform because the GOP benefits the most from it.

 

[SneekyNinja]

The party establishment needed to be kicked to the curb.

It hasn't happened yet, in site of recent events.

You say that but who will we get to replace them?

A load of politically green kids?

The Republicans would just wipe the floor with them.

The grassroots movement needs to take over from the inside incrementally to gain the political experience required and because this country doesn't like to change too much too fast.

 

[Padawanbater2]

You say that but who will we get to replace them?

A load of politically green kids?

The Republicans would just wipe the floor with them.

The grassroots movement needs to take over from the inside incrementally to gain the political experience required and because this country doesn't like to change too much too fast.

No.

People like you simply need to get out of the way.

 

[SneekyNinja]

No.

People like you simply need to get out of the way.

And your reply here is exactly why you're going to fail dramatically.

Care to provide a list of experienced names who can replace every "establishment" Democrat in the House and Senate?

 

[schuylaar]

"Hillary Clinton’s campaign ran TV ads that had less to do with policy than any other presidential candidate in the past four presidential races, according to a new study published on Monday by the Wesleyan Media Project.

Clinton’s team spent a whopping $1 billion on the election in all — about twice what Donald Trump’s campaign spent. Clinton spent $72 million on television ads in the final weeks alone.

But only 25 percent of advertising supporting her campaign went after Trump on policy grounds, the researchers found. By comparison, every other presidential candidate going back to at least 2000 devoted more than 40 percent of his or her advertising to policy-based attacks. None spent nearly as much time going after an opponent’s personality as Clinton’s ads did."

"In stark contrast to any prior presidential cycle for which we have Kantar Media/CMAG data, the Clinton campaign overwhelmingly chose to focus on Trump’s personality and fitness for office (in a sense, doubling down on the news media’s focus), leaving very little room for discussion in advertising of the reasons why Clinton herself was the better choice."

Full article from Vox

Link to the study


So this information begs the question: Why did the Clinton campaign focus so heavily on personal attacks instead of her own policy positions?

My guess would be because the policy positions that liberals and progressives actually support are incompatible with her campaigns establishment donors interests. Support for the TPP, universal college, legalizing recreational marijuana, reinstating strict regulations for the financial industry, etc., are all positions corporate America and Wall Street do not want.

Platitudes, empty rhetoric, identity politics, and demonization of Trump and his supporters was the only card her campaign had to play. The same thing applies to every establishment Democrat who accepts corporate funding in the future. Unless this changes, Democrats will continue to lose elections because they have nothing of actual substance to offer their base of voters except "TRUMP BAD!". The Democratic leadership currently has no vision and they are continuing to double down on the exact same mistakes that lost them the election.

But we already know this..don't we?

She had nothing to offer the regular Joe which is why she took Sanders' platform. That's how she said 'I'm you'. Guess what? Constituents knew she was lying..I don't know how.

Once she knocked Sanders out of the race, that paved the way for Trump..you remember the polls during primary? Clinton too close to call..Sanders would've mopped the floor with Trump.

It's the Democratic leadership which needs convincing about the product they offer to market..it looks too much like the Republipuke model: Wall St, Wall St, Wall St.

Now you have a freak show that talks from both sides of his mouth..drain the swamp..refill with Goldman Sachs.

He fooled those stupid, stupid Republipukes..like Golden Showers would do anything for those with black lung on KYnnect..now you DON'T get a health policy, you get ACCESS to a health policy which you can purchase from your own money the government LET you keep through tax credit. Medicaid will now be lottery, only so many spaces available.

That sounds better now, doesn't it?

 

[schuylaar]

as long as you don't count the 2 billion dollars in free airtime trump got.

duct tape anal rape.

You would never live down your kink if everyone knew, Bucky.

It's time to let go.

 

[schuylaar]

TYT, Cenk Uygur proposed it on MSNBC. They discussed everything but campaign finance reform, in my mind the root of the current evil afflicting our political system.

We can play whack a mole with symptoms or we can cut out the heart of the problem. The Justice Democrats would have us play whack a mole circle jerk games forever.

More like chop off the head..

 

[cool2burn]

Your Democratic "leadership"

This is what stands in the way of a 2020 Trump reelection... Let that sink in for a minute...



Jake Tapper: "I want to ask you, president Trump at CPAC on Friday said the Republican party, from now on, will be the party of the American worker and in November, president Trump carried white voters without a college degree, working class voters, by a staggering 37 percentage points. What is your plan to win these voters back into the Democratic fold?"

Tom Perez: "We lead with our values and we lead with our actions. We talk to them about how literally hours into the Trump administration, he was a fraud. He made it harder for first-time homeowners to buy a home. He made it harder to save for retirement. He nominated a judge for the Supreme Court who wants to eviscerate collective bargaining. If you want good jobs, elect a Democrat. That's the message that we have to communicate, it's a message that is true, it resonates in every zip code and that's what you're going to be doing all over the nation. The fact is that the Democrats grow the middle-class, Democrats protect economic security and we need to do a better job of communicating that message everywhere."

Tapper: "I know you're probably reluctant to criticize Hillary Clinton, but are you of the opinion that her campaign did not talk about those economic values sufficiently, instead focusing on the perceived character flaws of the current president?"

Perez: "Well certainly we have to do a better job as a Democratic party of messaging what we stand for, we have to make sure that we're out there every week talking about how we're the party of middle-class security, we're the party of inclusion, we believe diversity is our greatest strength. Because when we lead with these values, I believe that's when we succeed. Because those are the values of the American people. That's why you see millions of people out there marching in the aftermath of January 20th, saying "Donald Trump, you don't stand for our values". That's why you see for instance, yesterday, in Delaware, there was a big election for a state senate seat and it was the seat that held the state senate in balance, and it was a great example of that activism we've seen, Jake, coming into fruition. Our Revolution, the DNC, grassroots activists came in to help elect Stephanie Hanson by a whopping 16%. This is the definition of the DNC and the Democratic party. Coming together to make sure we help elect candidates from the state house to the senate to the school board, and I am so excited about what happened there yesterday in Delaware. We've got opportunities right here in Atlanta where I sit today, Congressional 6th which is Cobb county, uhh, we're gonna take the fight there and people ask me all the time, Jake, "How do you translate the energy out there, Tom, into action and results?" we did exactly that in Delaware yesterday and we're gonna work like heck to do that here in Georgia and elsewhere. It's very exciting to see the energy!"

Pandering to the middle class with worthless speech will not work anymore. The DNC has been in charge of our inter cities for decades. They are not doing to well. DNC loves huge trade deals them make them rich and cast out the middle class. No change there. The DNC keeps re-electing the same old leadership that failed them. Unless you are an Illegal or a special interest honestly the DNC does not have much to offer these days.

 

[schuylaar]

I don't blame the dems entirely. Bernie is an I, not a dem. But I do believe that we need to change the system to allow 3 party people to run a realistic campaign. Lots of things need tweaking for that to happen. Of course, that would weaken the two party system so I won't be holding my breath.

As long as money is at the center, none of this will change. Bernie PROVED you can have a grassroots and don't need corporate cash. You have to work for it by campaigning on what the people want..sadly constituents will not line your pocket with cash but corporations and other governments will. They figured this out, which is why they no longer care about constituent votes.

 

[SneekyNinja]

As usual Bernie Babies forget he lost the primary by over 4 million votes.

It's the voters you need to convince and with an attitude like "get out of the way then" you're a terrible ambassador for the leftist movement.

 

[Wilderb]

Him and Hillary couldve worked magic together and unified the party

I agree.

You say that but who will we get to replace them?

A load of politically green kids?

The Republicans would just wipe the floor with them.

The grassroots movement needs to take over from the inside incrementally to gain the political experience required and because this country doesn't like to change too much too fast.

Didn't the republicans just "wipe the floor" with YOUR beloved establishment????????