See How The Government Is Spending Our Money

[Comatose Kush]

basically what the government should do is legalize pot, and then take all that money they were spending on fighting it, to take down the meth and heroine and coke drug lords, this way everyones happy and instead of people running around with knives to steal some money for their heroine addiction, people will be running around with open arms to hug and share weed with oneanother

.. Here's an idea if we all saved enough money to sustain our most basic needs (bread and water, etc) then all of us quite our job for 1 year to focus on writing New stories, new inventions, new economic and physics theories. The GDP would plummet, the government could not collect taxes, there would be zero economic output, the fed could not print New counterfeit fiat money as trade would be haunted. Goverments would disolve, the top 1 percents massive fiat wealth would be appropriated by the laws of logic. There would be 2 choices at that point. Redestribute the poker chips and share with the masses who had decided to indefinitely suspend game play. Or option 2 become angered and attack the worker bees beginning a war that would lead to the 2nd birth of 18th century America.. All from excersicing the right to assemble and taking a year off work.

 

[strainbank]

Rollitup has built a clock for its users to put on their webpages the clock will show what the government is spending all our hard earned taxes on:

You can view this site by going to
The Grow Clock

To add this to your page just copy this where you want the clock:

<script src="http&#58;//www.rollitup.org/drugclock.js">
// Rollitup.org
</script>
[url="http&#58;//www.rollitup.org/"]Growing Marijuana Forums[/url]

Put this on your page to let everyone know how much our governtment is wasting!!!!

wow this is super cool! anyone done this yet i wanna see what it looks like!

 

[strainbank]

"our" government is one of the most deranged in the world. Only we can make a change. Was it always medically legal in Cali, I think not. It is being more decriminilized as the years go by in some places, however it is getting worse in others. Stand up, don't be afraid to be heard. As one of my favorite men would say. "Get up, Stand up, stand up for your rights

if you look at our world ranking in police state were just under china and north korea haha! russia and germany have less issues lol.

 

[strainbank]

Just Remember, all you stoners out there, if you dont want 2 more years of this insane Regime (Bush-Cheney etc.) VOTE, yes that's it, get off your lazy asses and VOTE!! "I give unto you all the herbs bearing seed"

the voting process is rigged, look at gmo labeling. i think basically we're fucked. we need more people in the marijuana industry to open their pockets and support the tea party. it's hard to grow weed when youre in a fema re education camp.

 

[AlbinoAcorn]

When I click on the clock link it says
The requested page could not be found.... not sure why this thread is in the general growing section anyway.

 

[ShLUbY]

.. Here's an idea if we all saved enough money to sustain our most basic needs (bread and water, etc) then all of us quite our job for 1 year to focus on writing New stories, new inventions, new economic and physics theories. The GDP would plummet, the government could not collect taxes, there would be zero economic output, the fed could not print New counterfeit fiat money as trade would be haunted. Goverments would disolve, the top 1 percents massive fiat wealth would be appropriated by the laws of logic. There would be 2 choices at that point. Redestribute the poker chips and share with the masses who had decided to indefinitely suspend game play. Or option 2 become angered and attack the worker bees beginning a war that would lead to the 2nd birth of 18th century America.. All from excersicing the right to assemble and taking a year off work.

unfortunately about 1/1000th of the country is capable of doing this. most people don't even know how to make bread, let alone plan for a whole year worth of food, and have the money to pay your mortgage.

but i agree this would be a GIANT fuck you to our gov't, and a great feat for humans to start depending on themselves than just be mindless and go to work every day.

 

[Oregon Gardener]

It boils down to this: We the people!

If enough states act, there could be enough collective pressure to catalyze a much-needed major overhaul of our nation's antiquated and harmful drug laws. Right now there are to many senior citizens out there that are being sent the wrong message. The hippie generation has tried for years and continues to try to get these laws changed. And now we have the younger pot head generation coming into the seen, but most don't even bother to vote. It is time to send a message to the younger generation to get them up off their asses and to get them out there to vote, to protest, and to get petitions signed to get this on the ballot each and every voting year!

I am a strong supporter for the legalization of Cannabis. Which brings me to another point I would like to make! Stop calling it Marijuana on the ballots, instead we need to be calling it canabis just to throw people off. Marijuana sounds evil to most seniors and a like.

WE THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE!

Make your vote count!

Yes you have to make your vote count, but you also have get out there and make a fool of yourself and take a risk. Here in Oregon we took some not-so calculated risks. We all got some bumps and bruising.However, in the end; we won!

Photo courtesy of the Hemp Fairy.

 

[shake&bake]

Cigarettes cost the tax payer 500 billion a year

Alcohol costs the tax payer 250 billion a year

Add the war into the equation that's another 80 billion plus the fact that our defense budget went up 400 billion since 911 if we could just stop stealing Afghanistan's Iraq's and Iran's oil and opium but that won't happen in this drug and car dependent country

Imagine that in three simple steps we could save over 1 trillion dollars a year.

Germany is number 3 on the GDP yet has the land mass of less than Texas anyone else see where I'm going with this I can't really say as it would be a life sentence

 

[Tim Fox]

Cigarettes cost the tax payer 500 billion a year

Alcohol costs the tax payer 250 billion a year

Add the war into the equation that's another 80 billion plus the fact that our defense budget went up 400 billion since 911 if we could just stop stealing Afghanistan's Iraq's and Iran's oil and opium but that won't happen in this drug and car dependent country

Imagine that in three simple steps we could save over 1 trillion dollars a year.

Germany is number 3 on the GDP yet has the land mass of less than Texas anyone else see where I'm going with this I can't really say as it would be a life sentence

wait,, what

 

[ky man]

AMERICA has the best government that money can buy and the drug companies have the money and the DRs.thats the problem.ky

 

[haight]

AMERICA has the best government that money can buy and the drug companies have the money and the DRs.thats the problem.ky

Not so much the doctors but rather the insurance companies. They are the money middleman between you and the doctors.

 

[Cannacopia Delight]

In the year of 2014 exactly 700,993 individuals were arrested domestically for either using or selling cannabis out of the total 1,561,231 on drug charges. The entire war on drugs budget for that year was roughly $9.3 billion dollars. That means that state and federal government combined spent $5,956 dollars going after every individual using or selling pot. That equates to roughly $4.2 billion dollars just going after cannabis in the year of 2014. Then we have to look at the states who have legalized and taxed cannabis, Colorado made $86.7 million dollars in taxes from cannabis just last year. That means if we can assume every state will be as successful that would bring in $4.3 billion dollars a year back into all of our states. Then we have to look at those in state or federal prison for either using or trafficking cannabis, that number in 2012 (latest statistic) being roughly 40,000 inmates. On average the median cost of keeping one inmate in prison is $45,000/year. That adds up to around $1.8 billion dollars a year spent on keeping cannabis users and dealers in prison. All together by decriminalizing cannabis our entire country would save roughly $10.3 billion dollars a year and we'd have 40,000 individuals that could find jobs again thanks to the wiping of their criminal record.

Sources;

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Crime#sthash.A84cDz0q.9p8pSxrV.dpbs

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Economics#sthash.u6ehXr5K.dpbs

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-cost-of-a-nation-of-incarceration/

https://books.google.com/books?id=mO0CTJCZsiQC&q=6+million#v=onepage&q=40,000&f=false

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28947869/colorado-monthly-pot-sales-pass-100-million-mark

 

[Ethan010]

Holy shit, that's pretty shocking. Just I have to post a comment and let more and more people know the truth.

 

[visajoe1]

Holy shit, that's pretty shocking. Just I have to post a comment and let more and more people know the truth.

old news, although accurate. this has been one of the arguments for the last 15 years to push for more medicinal/decriminalization/legalization laws at state level, with success. sadly, its fallen on deaf ears at the federal level.

the next major milestones remaining is rescheduling to a lower drug class and ability for banks to accept cannabis business like any other. there is a process now to open an account with a bank, but most dont offer it, requires a ton of paperwork, and costs more (because of risk).

until that happens, the whole growing and selling industry will remain in the grey area, with some limited protections from state because of various laws passed across the country. but, if you get too big the feds may start looking around. just too much risk still IMO

 

[SheepsBlood]

I served 10 years in the military, I am rated 90% disabled by the VA. I do respect the flag and what it stands for and those who have fallen before me, I have seen men die in front of my own eyes, I literally cry anytime I think about it when I stand for the National Anthem. I have paid the price to get to say this. Our country SUCKS!

We live in a place where police, stupid people, and children have more say and power than the average person. We have no federally mandated time off, minimum wage is crap and will just be our undoing when they start raising prices even more than they have in the past decade. We will continue to bail out the rich with not only our tax money but also with the sweat and blood of our bodies. Our education sucks... Shit, when did you hear anyone speak two or more languages other than Spanish/English or could do math (1 out of 100)... My wife can speak 3, shes from Belgium. I hate how this country is and so does everyone else outside of it. So damn proud, so damn arrogant.

Why can't anyone just own up to our country being a heaping pile of rancid bacteria infested crap.

I am not promoting hate, nor "Radical Islam" , or any other agenda, besides, that it's time we made a real change.
Stop allowing your bosses to walk on you. Stop allowing idiots to tell you made up rules/laws that don't exist for no other reason than because they don't know the real truth (I have to give an example. Home Cheapo "Customer Service" guy tells me he can't give me the credit card 18 month 0% interest rate without a hard copy coupon because it will cost his store. I explained that it wasn't needed because the card issuer granted it already and that his statement made no friggen sense)
Do you see what I mean people???
We wouldn't be getting attacked by ISIL/ISIS/Taliban or your mom if we didn't train them back in the 70's/80's, then allow them to gain in size because we were pissing them all off by attacking their countries and sending in spooks to kill them off ... Thanks Ronnie and Ollie for that one.

It's time to shut the borders 100%, close it all down. No flights, no trucks, no boats. Lockdown for 1 decade.
Park the military in the dry docks and preserve them.
Put our tax dollars to real work.
We could take all the money from military spending (which makes us NO PROFIT) and reinvest it into new roads, new bridges, new schools, new technology and on and on. Guess what! That is where those military people can go to work when we shut it down.
We don't need a military to keep Canada out or Mexico. Canada doesn't want to come here (they know whats up). As for Mexico (build the wall and deport anyone that hasn't got a green card, we will need those shitty field jobs for our kids during the summer. It should take the pussy right out of their weak asses. Notice I never said I don't appreciate the illegal migrant worker, OH, I DO APPRECIATE THEM with every sip from my orange juice, every strawberry I eat... I am not kidding, I have serious respect for those guys)

Well, that's enough for now. Oh one last thing. No I didn't vote for Obama or Hillary. Matter of fact, I wrote in my candidate.
I don't think I need to get into the disgusting size of obese people, the self centered egotistical children and young adults in this new generation. X-gen was the last to have any decent people. Stop taking selfies please! Turn the camera! There was a reason your dad wasn't in the picture growing up. Because, he was a real man and standing behind it. Not, holding a stick which is connected by bluetooth to take a picture. If he was in it, it was because that bad ass figured out the timer and bought a tripod, then ran into the picture trying to look like he was all chill. God, I miss my dad RIP.


So let the hate RESPONSES begin.

 

[KryptoBud]

I served 10 years in the military, I am rated 90% disabled by the VA. I do respect the flag and what it stands for and those who have fallen before me, I have seen men die in front of my own eyes, I literally cry anytime I think about it when I stand for the National Anthem. I have paid the price to get to say this. Our country SUCKS!

We live in a place where police, stupid people, and children have more say and power than the average person. We have no federally mandated time off, minimum wage is crap and will just be our undoing when they start raising prices even more than they have in the past decade. We will continue to bail out the rich with not only our tax money but also with the sweat and blood of our bodies. Our education sucks... Shit, when did you hear anyone speak two or more languages other than Spanish/English or could do math (1 out of 100)... My wife can speak 3, shes from Belgium. I hate how this country is and so does everyone else outside of it. So damn proud, so damn arrogant.

Why can't anyone just own up to our country being a heaping pile of rancid bacteria infested crap.

I am not promoting hate, nor "Radical Islam" , or any other agenda, besides, that it's time we made a real change.
Stop allowing your bosses to walk on you. Stop allowing idiots to tell you made up rules/laws that don't exist for no other reason than because they don't know the real truth (I have to give an example. Home Cheapo "Customer Service" guy tells me he can't give me the credit card 18 month 0% interest rate without a hard copy coupon because it will cost his store. I explained that it wasn't needed because the card issuer granted it already and that his statement made no friggen sense)
Do you see what I mean people???
We wouldn't be getting attacked by ISIL/ISIS/Taliban or your mom if we didn't train them back in the 70's/80's, then allow them to gain in size because we were pissing them all off by attacking their countries and sending in spooks to kill them off ... Thanks Ronnie and Ollie for that one.

It's time to shut the borders 100%, close it all down. No flights, no trucks, no boats. Lockdown for 1 decade.
Park the military in the dry docks and preserve them.
Put our tax dollars to real work.
We could take all the money from military spending (which makes us NO PROFIT) and reinvest it into new roads, new bridges, new schools, new technology and on and on. Guess what! That is where those military people can go to work when we shut it down.
We don't need a military to keep Canada out or Mexico. Canada doesn't want to come here (they know whats up). As for Mexico (build the wall and deport anyone that hasn't got a green card, we will need those shitty field jobs for our kids during the summer. It should take the pussy right out of their weak asses. Notice I never said I don't appreciate the illegal migrant worker, OH, I DO APPRECIATE THEM with every sip from my orange juice, every strawberry I eat... I am not kidding, I have serious respect for those guys)

Well, that's enough for now. Oh one last thing. No I didn't vote for Obama or Hillary. Matter of fact, I wrote in my candidate.
I don't think I need to get into the disgusting size of obese people, the self centered egotistical children and young adults in this new generation. X-gen was the last to have any decent people. Stop taking selfies please! Turn the camera! There was a reason your dad wasn't in the picture growing up. Because, he was a real man and standing behind it. Not, holding a stick which is connected by bluetooth to take a picture. If he was in it, it was because that bad ass figured out the timer and bought a tripod, then ran into the picture trying to look like he was all chill. God, I miss my dad RIP.


So let the hate RESPONSES begin.

We're not getting attacked by ISIS or any taliban i agree. The US done their best to destabilize that part of the world for decades without good reason. There are over 800 US military bases in foreign countries, in the US there are exactly 0 foreign military bases. When people resist they're terrorists or extremist, when we do it we're liberators. If shuffling your military around the world, bombing people who pose no threat, most areas don't have running water or electricity if that's not extreme what the fuck is? Remember all the wmd they found in iraq? The found the president in a hole in the ground like a rat, huge threat to the largest military power in the world. The USA has become the bully!

 

[Jacobson Wyatt]

Hiiiii

 

[SheepsBlood]

We're not getting attacked by ISIS or any taliban i agree. The US done their best to destabilize that part of the world for decades without good reason. There are over 800 US military bases in foreign countries, in the US there are exactly 0 foreign military bases. When people resist they're terrorists or extremist, when we do it we're liberators. If shuffling your military around the world, bombing people who pose no threat, most areas don't have running water or electricity if that's not extreme what the fuck is? Remember all the wmd they found in iraq? The found the president in a hole in the ground like a rat, huge threat to the largest military power in the world. The USA has become the bully!

IDK if you know this but, the foreign military's come here to train, but your right, they don't stay. They don't put up buildings. We did that crap after WWII do to the Marshall Plan.

 

[visajoe1]

I served 10 years in the military, I am rated 90% disabled by the VA. I do respect the flag and what it stands for and those who have fallen before me, I have seen men die in front of my own eyes, I literally cry anytime I think about it when I stand for the National Anthem. I have paid the price to get to say this. Our country SUCKS!

We live in a place where police, stupid people, and children have more say and power than the average person. We have no federally mandated time off, minimum wage is crap and will just be our undoing when they start raising prices even more than they have in the past decade. We will continue to bail out the rich with not only our tax money but also with the sweat and blood of our bodies. Our education sucks... Shit, when did you hear anyone speak two or more languages other than Spanish/English or could do math (1 out of 100)... My wife can speak 3, shes from Belgium. I hate how this country is and so does everyone else outside of it. So damn proud, so damn arrogant.

Why can't anyone just own up to our country being a heaping pile of rancid bacteria infested crap.

I am not promoting hate, nor "Radical Islam" , or any other agenda, besides, that it's time we made a real change.
Stop allowing your bosses to walk on you. Stop allowing idiots to tell you made up rules/laws that don't exist for no other reason than because they don't know the real truth (I have to give an example. Home Cheapo "Customer Service" guy tells me he can't give me the credit card 18 month 0% interest rate without a hard copy coupon because it will cost his store. I explained that it wasn't needed because the card issuer granted it already and that his statement made no friggen sense)
Do you see what I mean people???
We wouldn't be getting attacked by ISIL/ISIS/Taliban or your mom if we didn't train them back in the 70's/80's, then allow them to gain in size because we were pissing them all off by attacking their countries and sending in spooks to kill them off ... Thanks Ronnie and Ollie for that one.

It's time to shut the borders 100%, close it all down. No flights, no trucks, no boats. Lockdown for 1 decade.
Park the military in the dry docks and preserve them.
Put our tax dollars to real work.
We could take all the money from military spending (which makes us NO PROFIT) and reinvest it into new roads, new bridges, new schools, new technology and on and on. Guess what! That is where those military people can go to work when we shut it down.
We don't need a military to keep Canada out or Mexico. Canada doesn't want to come here (they know whats up). As for Mexico (build the wall and deport anyone that hasn't got a green card, we will need those shitty field jobs for our kids during the summer. It should take the pussy right out of their weak asses. Notice I never said I don't appreciate the illegal migrant worker, OH, I DO APPRECIATE THEM with every sip from my orange juice, every strawberry I eat... I am not kidding, I have serious respect for those guys)

Well, that's enough for now. Oh one last thing. No I didn't vote for Obama or Hillary. Matter of fact, I wrote in my candidate.
I don't think I need to get into the disgusting size of obese people, the self centered egotistical children and young adults in this new generation. X-gen was the last to have any decent people. Stop taking selfies please! Turn the camera! There was a reason your dad wasn't in the picture growing up. Because, he was a real man and standing behind it. Not, holding a stick which is connected by bluetooth to take a picture. If he was in it, it was because that bad ass figured out the timer and bought a tripod, then ran into the picture trying to look like he was all chill. God, I miss my dad RIP.


So let the hate RESPONSES begin.

so, to paraphrase:
-america sucks
-everyone must "stop allowing your bosses to walk on you"
-all borders should be shut and military parked

interesting. anything else you'd like to add or clarify?

 

[SheepsBlood]

so, to paraphrase:
-america sucks
-everyone must "stop allowing your bosses to walk on you"
-all borders should be shut and military parked

interesting. anything else you'd like to add or clarify?

Nope that sums it up pretty good. Thank you. I sometimes feel angry and rant.