Enter the Dungeon! New and Improved Dungeons Vault Genetics

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Hemphill420

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Just found out about these guys!With so many Breeders around it's easy to miss some of them.......Does he have a website where he breaks down how he worked his strains?....lots of pics on IG
 
tampee

tampee

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Bakersfield said:
Wow!
So it doesn't look as if DVG runs progeny tests on his GG#4 S1. I mean here we have yourself and @upstate both showing herms from the same batch of seeds.
I really doubt that these seeds come with a warning label for potential Herms or do they?

Maybe, we should see what @tampee has to say about this fine example of catering to the hype of the Gorilla Glue #4 and noteven selling something that's stable. View attachment 3916896
What's wrong with breeders today? View attachment 3916899

I mean shit it's not like it's hard to get hold of the real thing, right?
Every shade tree pollen chucking tent breeder and dispensary West of the Great Lakes has Gorilla Glue #4 to cross or inbreed with.
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I don't even know what the fuck you are talking about, but you should probably refer to a hack as a hack not a breeder.

A breeder has a goal a hack tosses pollen with intentions on money no intention to improve or stabilize. I'm a breeder myself but I'm not selling too many hacks would steal my hard work and claim it as their own like BCBD and their Godbud even Skunk#1, NL, Big Bud, Strawberry Cough, need I go on?
 
tampee

tampee

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kmog33 said:
Gg4 is hermy prone anyway, I am assuming selfing it would just push out the trait worse. I would expect the same out of Trainwreck or straight cookies s1s. If you're growing a strain that comes from accidental herm, and you intentionally herm it to make femmy seeds....Your best best is to watch them, but I would expect every gg4 s1 to show some form of hermy trait/tendency.

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Pretty much, but if one was to breed it forward a few generations you could cut down the herm trait. But you can breed a solid line forward as well you just won't have the hype of GG#4.

I can have two bags of GG#4 one named Super Duper Skunk the GG#4 will sell better do to hype though it's the same damn thing. We see so many ads advertising is a must. Unless we have legalization then the people who have solid strains will obtain patents and nobody will be able to even rename your genetics. That is when all us under ground breeders will come out of the shadows and destroy the seed industry for the most part.

We will always have Sensi Seeds, Dutch Passion, etc. And people offering landrace because they have all the building block strains that are needed to breed the best.

The Dutch have all our best strains and all these clone onlys come from them Dutch genetics whether they were bred since or not they have the building blocks. But the Spanish are doing some good things as well by offering decent landrace genetics.

No doubt in my mind GG#4 could be bred properly with regular seeds the only tough part is we don't know the true genetics. Just that some guy found a seed in good weed and the hype took off.
 
tampee

tampee

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Hemphill420 said:
Just found out about these guys!With so many Breeders around it's easy to miss some of them.......Does he have a website where he breaks down how he worked his strains?....lots of pics on IG
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So many hacks breeders are few and far between. DJ Short, Tom Hill, Sannies I know I'm leaving a lot out but these people breed. Mr. Nice kind of breeds but they only offer us F1's obviously they are waiting until legalization to put out real strains unless they were always a hack and lied about the breeding they did.

I have no idea about this company though. If they have a large selection of crosses then they probably didn't breed.
 
Amos Otis

Amos Otis

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tampee said:
So many hacks breeders are few and far between. DJ Short, Tom Hill, Sannies....
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And yet, in years of hobbying, 9 months of running Sannies produced several varieties of what is still in the upper echelon of crap smoke I've seen. I suppose that means breeders get props, unless they're breeding crap?

I'd guess that IHG would be a shining example of 'hacks', yet a high majority of people including me are getting top shelf smoke much more often than not. Those 2 examples pretty much render 'breeders' > 'hacks' a debate that means nothing to me.

It's odd to me, some of the weed things people care so much about that have absolutely nothing to do with the end game: the quality of the smoke. Inbred, outbred, crossed, femmed, bred, chucked, soiled, hydroed, years of tortured work :rolleyes: vs a tent chuck.

All I care about, seriously, is the bud reward at the end of 4-5 months of cohabitation. Well, that, and I try to support the good cats if they're bringing good smoke to the market, but sometimes they can fool ya....if you know what I mean. :eyesmoke:
 
kmog33

kmog33

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tampee said:
Pretty much, but if one was to breed it forward a few generations you could cut down the herm trait. But you can breed a solid line forward as well you just won't have the hype of GG#4.

I can have two bags of GG#4 one named Super Duper Skunk the GG#4 will sell better do to hype though it's the same damn thing. We see so many ads advertising is a must. Unless we have legalization then the people who have solid strains will obtain patents and nobody will be able to even rename your genetics. That is when all us under ground breeders will come out of the shadows and destroy the seed industry for the most part.

We will always have Sensi Seeds, Dutch Passion, etc. And people offering landrace because they have all the building block strains that are needed to breed the best.

The Dutch have all our best strains and all these clone onlys come from them Dutch genetics whether they were bred since or not they have the building blocks. But the Spanish are doing some good things as well by offering decent landrace genetics.

No doubt in my mind GG#4 could be bred properly with regular seeds the only tough part is we don't know the true genetics. Just that some guy found a seed in good weed and the hype took off.
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No.

I am not taking the time to elaborate everything that is wrong with this post.

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greencropper

greencropper

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v.s one said:
F2 for sure. I'm Gdp out.everything I got has it in the gene pool, so I'm kind of scratching my head on what to do. Probably buy more beans of something else. If I get the pheno from the attitude. I will die happy.:fire:
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maybe hit the girls with a good triangle kush or gg#4 cross?, im planning on using my bodhi gg#4 cross(space monkey), heard good things about that one & a triangle kush cross(pirates emerald triangle triangle kush f1 maybe) in some upcoming chucks!
 
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