Indoor and outdoor perpetual harvests with seeds and clones

[theloadeddragon]

After I have successfully bred the BB and C-99, I am going to cross the females I get from the seeds with Forbidden Treasure, and see how that goes

 

[greenthumb111]

Try Seamaiden's tobacco recipe. You can pollinate outside. Use the bag method. What's your special nutes for breeding?

 

[theloadeddragon]

if you have a link to it, I would like to check out her recipe (as long as it doesn't include peppers). O.K.: Alaskan Fish Fertilizer (amended into the soil every two weeks) Superthrive, FF Grow Big, FF Tiger Bloom, Thrive Alive B1 (yes all the way through), Earth Juice Grow, Micro Blast (made locally), and then at the end.... pure water and an compost tea every other day. I still need to get Superthrive, Thrive Alive B1, Earth Juice Grow, and finish gathering all of the materials for the compost tea. Flush after every two feedings instead of after 4-6 like I normally do during flowering. I know the bag method very well could work, but I am not going to risk it... besides, like I said I like the phenotypes of the hidden seedling better so far. Im not in a big hurry to get more seeds, I am in a big hurry to get lots of dense potent Sensimillia

 

[theloadeddragon]

for the first time in a month, I didn't water the outdoor plants at all. I am letting their pots dry out nicely before a good watering first thing tomorrow morning (depending on the weather, if it rains over night everything should be fine, and I will only need to do a light watering tomorrow) if it storms, I am going to put out a big fan .... Im having a lighting/space crisis in the indoor section though... I forgot to compensate for the lips of the big pots I am using so its not working out... like 5-10 plants hang in the balance .... I will do my best to get it figured out...

 

[stoneymontana]

so hey do it your way , so that you feel comfortable with what you know because like you said main concern is sticky sisemeillia and the pollen will stay good for about 30 days in the refridgerator I was told so you have time..

 

[theloadeddragon]

so hey do it your way , so that you feel comfortable with what you know because like you said main concern is sticky sisemeillia and the pollen will stay good for about 30 days in the refridgerator I was told so you have time..

I may move the smaller flowering C-99 and use a bag pollination method... as soon as I get the rest of my breeding nutes. It depends on how quickly I can pull it together. I'm stretched really thin right now. The sooner the better on those seeds though, because I got to thinking... and I would like to have about ten of them in full flower outside this time next year ........

 

[Seamaiden]

"My" (it's not really mine) tobacco tea recipe, basic mix:

10 grams loose leaf tobacco (I usually use American Spirit or Bali Shag, the point is to make sure it's additive-free, and I like using organically grown tobacco)
1 liter (hot) water
Few drops non-antibacterial/antimicrobial soap (Ivory or similar)

Two ways to do this. Either use very hot water and steep the tobacco overnight, OR put it in a pan on very low heat, not even high enough to simmer. You just want it hot enough to pull the color out of the tobacco, when it turns a tan color you know it's done. On the stove this takes me about an hour.

Strain, add soap (the soap's important because it helps it not stink like an ashtray, as well as breaking that good old tension), put into sprayer.

• You MUST hit all surfaces, including the soil.
• Do NOT dispose of in any water-ways, it will easily kill most all aquatic organisms.
• Avoid getting onto skin (too much, anyway, this is liquid nicotine).

Now, if this basic recipe doesn't do the trick, no worries, just up the dosage. You can easily go as high as 15 grams tobacco per liter of water. I load it up into a handheld pump sprayer set on a mist.

 

[theloadeddragon]

"My" (it's not really mine) tobacco tea recipe, basic mix:

10 grams loose leaf tobacco (I usually use American Spirit or Bali Shag, the point is to make sure it's additive-free, and I like using organically grown tobacco)
1 liter (hot) water
Few drops non-antibacterial/antimicrobial soap (Ivory or similar)

Two ways to do this. Either use very hot water and steep the tobacco overnight, OR put it in a pan on very low heat, not even high enough to simmer. You just want it hot enough to pull the color out of the tobacco, when it turns a tan color you know it's done. On the stove this takes me about an hour.

Strain, add soap (the soap's important because it helps it not stink like an ashtray, as well as breaking that good old tension), put into sprayer.

• You MUST hit all surfaces, including the soil.
• Do NOT dispose of in any water-ways, it will easily kill most all aquatic organisms.
• Avoid getting onto skin (too much, anyway, this is liquid nicotine).

Now, if this basic recipe doesn't do the trick, no worries, just up the dosage. You can easily go as high as 15 grams tobacco per liter of water. I load it up into a handheld pump sprayer set on a mist.

Exact same recipe as I use... with the acception that mine is 12 grams of tobacco and we substitute Ivory etc. with strait vinegar and nitroglycerin. Thanks for stopping by and dropping that off for me... I have debated for a little while on whether or not I should really use dish/bar soap.

 

[stoneymontana]

I may move the smaller flowering C-99 and use a bag pollination method... as soon as I get the rest of my breeding nutes. It depends on how quickly I can pull it together. I'm stretched really thin right now. The sooner the better on those seeds though, because I got to thinking... and I would like to have about ten of them in full flower outside this time next year ........

I plan on getting that strain to so maybe we can do a simultanious grow ,you outdoors bb x c99 and I can do an indoor bb x c99 and we can see the differences in the grows ?? Just a thought might be fun ??

 

[theloadeddragon]

I plan on getting that strain to so maybe we can do a simultanious grow ,you outdoors bb x c99 and I can do an indoor bb x c99 and we can see the differences in the grows ?? Just a thought might be fun ??

Hell yeah! We can compare genetics, as well as growing techniques

 

[theloadeddragon]

Im just waiting on my Fox Farm soils to get here....

 

[stoneymontana]

Hell yeah! We can compare genetics, as well as growing techniques

Let me know when and we will set it up !! I bet RIU will like it too

 

[greenthumb111]

Well I got the recipe from Seamaidens posts. Thx to whomever concocked it. Anyway I use to use soap but I now use a soil penetrant by Growmore called EZWET (Soil Penetrant E-Z Wet 26% Sprayable Formula). Does the same thing just a little better. I also use it when I water with nutes. Just use a 3 day spraying cycle for three times to kill eggs and bugs.

Did you get that nute schedule from somewhere? There is a lot of B-1 nutes in that mix. Have you tried that ozark mountain juice BMO Super Tonic in place of Superthrive. I hear its alot cheaper and you get the same results.

 

[theloadeddragon]

Well I got the recipe from Seamaidens posts. Thx to whomever concocked it. Anyway I use to use soap but I now use a soil penetrant by Growmore called EZWET (Soil Penetrant E-Z Wet 26% Sprayable Formula). Does the same thing just a little better. I also use it when I water with nutes. Just use a 3 day spraying cycle for three times to kill eggs and bugs.

Did you get that nute schedule from somewhere? There is a lot of B-1 nutes in that mix. Have you tried that ozark mountain juice BMO Super Tonic in place of Superthrive. I hear its alot cheaper and you get the same results.

I have heard of it, but never personally seen the results. I use Superthrive primarily for the hormonal effects. I've had seeds double in size after using it, and from what I know it helps to keep the seeds at about a 70% chance of getting a female. The nute schedule is part of some ongoing testing regarding the hormonal balance of a female while producing seeds, and whether or not certain nutrient combinations will effect the genetics of the seeds and their phenotypes. I can only do this with parent plants that I know the history and background of, and that were grown from seed, which I happen to be researching etc. right now (about the C-99x BB). The female mother being outside during seeding, using the sun for lighting is crucial as well, as it is the plants natural light source, and provides every level of the light spectrum, and also allows the moon cycles to aid in seed development. You have to excuse me if this is written funny... I have been smoking some Grape Ape Full Melt...

 

[theloadeddragon]

It seems that a lot of people have been joining RIU lately that are choosing the name dragon... that is interesting to me.... also interesting, no one has asked me what my screen name means, and I haven't really asked anyone else... lol...

 

[Seamaiden]

I have heard of it, but never personally seen the results. I use Superthrive primarily for the hormonal effects. I've had seeds double in size after using it, and from what I know it helps to keep the seeds at about a 70% chance of getting a female. The nute schedule is part of some ongoing testing regarding the hormonal balance of a female while producing seeds, and whether or not certain nutrient combinations will effect the genetics of the seeds and their phenotypes. I can only do this with parent plants that I know the history and background of, and that were grown from seed, which I happen to be researching etc. right now (about the C-99x BB). The female mother being outside during seeding, using the sun for lighting is crucial as well, as it is the plants natural light source, and provides every level of the light spectrum, and also allows the moon cycles to aid in seed development. You have to excuse me if this is written funny... I have been smoking some Grape Ape Full Melt...

Dude, epigenetics. Google it.

 

[Seamaiden]

Exact same recipe as I use... with the acception that mine is 12 grams of tobacco and we substitute Ivory etc. with strait vinegar and nitroglycerin. Thanks for stopping by and dropping that off for me... I have debated for a little while on whether or not I should really use dish/bar soap.

First time I made it I shaved a few flakes of Ivory soap off a bar. 12 grams is just a little stronger, and I'm sure it could be made stronger still if necessary and then diluted down.

I've had no problems using this cheap grapefruit-scented dish soap from Walmart. I actually love it because it's NOT antibacterial/antimicrobial. That shit is the fucking DEVIL, and the people who use it are the ones who will be responsible for all the deaths due to superbugs. Clueless, absolutely clueless.

 

[theloadeddragon]

Dude, epigenetics. Google it.

Thats exactly what I will be testing. epigenetics not playing a roll in the underlying DNA is based on the fact that the plant is not in the process of reproducing. Epigenetics do play a good part in the reproductive process though.

First time I made it I shaved a few flakes of Ivory soap off a bar. 12 grams is just a little stronger, and I'm sure it could be made stronger still if necessary and then diluted down.

I've had no problems using this cheap grapefruit-scented dish soap from Walmart. I actually love it because it's NOT antibacterial/antimicrobial. That shit is the fucking DEVIL, and the people who use it are the ones who will be responsible for all the deaths due to superbugs. Clueless, absolutely clueless.

I used vinegar and glycerin the first time I made it.... the leaves got a little residue on them that turned them fire red.... but the bud was super dank .

 

[Seamaiden]

Thats exactly what I will be testing. epigenetics not playing a roll in the underlying DNA is based on the fact that the plant is not in the process of reproducing. Epigenetics do play a good part in the reproductive process though.

Aaahh, but that's the thing about epigenetics. They are, among other things, a phenotypic expression of parental influencing factors, not necessarily tied to reproduction phases, but influencing factors from conception on. Genetic switches, but right now the chemistry is escaping my memory banks (it's in there somewhere). Aha! Methylation.
Epigenetics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
NOVA | Ghost in Your Genes | Epigenetic Therapy | PBS

I used vinegar and glycerin the first time I made it.... the leaves got a little residue on them that turned them fire red.... but the bud was super dank .

I've read that vinegar can be used as a weed killer, do you use it to break the surface tension? Same thing with the glycerin, yes? We used to use glycerin to "sweat" our horses. We'd wrap their legs with glycerin before working, and they wouldn't get all puffed up, kept 'em nice and clean. My mom uses it to make her kahlua.

Edit: Oh yeah, do you have any pix of the red leaves? I'd love to see.

 

[theloadeddragon]

Aaahh, but that's the thing about epigenetics. They are, among other things, a phenotypic expression of parental influencing factors, not necessarily tied to reproduction phases, but influencing factors from conception on. Genetic switches, but right now the chemistry is escaping my memory banks (it's in there somewhere). Aha! Methylation.
Epigenetics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
NOVA | Ghost in Your Genes | Epigenetic Therapy | PBS
I've read that vinegar can be used as a weed killer, do you use it to break the surface tension? Same thing with the glycerin, yes? We used to use glycerin to "sweat" our horses. We'd wrap their legs with glycerin before working, and they wouldn't get all puffed up, kept 'em nice and clean. My mom uses it to make her kahlua.

Edit: Oh yeah, do you have any pix of the red leaves? I'd love to see.

Wish I had pics... that was back in my paranoia days ... I wish I had pics too.