DIY with Quantum Boards

greg nr

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personally i dont expect the $cost to us going lower. looking at the hlg site $75 per board to me is a good price

for a qb board, heatsink, driver, and needed hardware the 90watt kit $149, and the 135w kit $168
and the 260 wat kitt with 2 quantum boards 1 heatsink twice as long as on the single QB kits and one driver matched for the 2 boards and hardware to mount and hang $285

on the last ability to order April 4th I said hell yes and ordered 2 135w kits in 5k spectrum and 2 260 watt kits in 3k spectrum total with shipping was $948

thats 6 QB's 4 heatsinks 4 drivers and the light they push vs the wattage they use is incredible.

Soon I am starting my grow and will keep a journal on here to show all the :twisted:ney sayers:wall: just what they will do the the plants we love so much.:weed:
That 260 watt kit is more than enough light for either a 3x3 or a 2x4 tent. I can go to about 320 watts on 2 QB's with the driver I have, and I had to dial down to 250 watts to avoid burn. And that kit price isn't bad. Just the parts alone will run you about $250 depending on driver and heatsink - without wire or a plug or any connecting gadgets........
 

tstick

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I would love to share what all great plans we have for boards and DIY, however we too many companies interested in HLG ideas. We would like to keep some cats in the bag. Next few months... Expect more red, more slate heatsink designs, more high power kits, more board designs, more powerful boards. Most important... More inventory

I think Mixing different spectrum on same circuit in parallel can cause issues. Best to keep all parallel rows with same reel of diodes. Different spectrum reels could have slight variation in Vf.

However different spectrum can go in different circuits and you will have 2 inputs to board.are you talking about controlling 2700k and 4000k diodes separately or together

We can do alternate diodes of different spectrum but that may raise the cost.

I like to idea of a single spectrum. Keeps things simple and cost low.
We are looking into getting more deep red. Will have 2 types of prototypes boards ready in 3 weeks and we will post spectrum here. Napalm will do a journal

Steve has his own ideas. That is why we have 2 prototypes in design.:mrgreen:
I am interested in finding something square in shape that could be used to cover a 4 X 4 area....passive cooling....WARM temp 2700-3000K range -but also with an adequate amount of blue....and possible UV options???....somewhere between 400 and 600 watts from the wall....dimming capable...ready to plug in out of the box.

Anything like that maybe coming around sometime in the near future? :)
 

Stephenj37826

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I am interested in finding something square in shape that could be used to cover a 4 X 4 area....passive cooling....WARM temp 2700-3000K range -but also with an adequate amount of blue....and possible UV options???....somewhere between 400 and 600 watts from the wall....dimming capable...ready to plug in out of the box.

Anything like that maybe coming around sometime in the near future? :)
Honestly I've looked into UV LEDs several times and there is yet to be evidence that anything but UVB increases quality. I will give credit where it is due..... California Light Works was the first company too put t-8 UV tubes in the fixture. Followed by Amare. Until I am proven wrong florescent is still the best way to get true UVB in your grow.... Or possibly Endomaxx 150 watt cmh(which I think they discontinued). The HLG 550 Pro may be just what your looking for.
 

ThaiBaby1

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I would love to share what all great plans we have for boards and DIY, however we too many companies interested in HLG ideas. We would like to keep some cats in the bag. Next few months... Expect more red, more slate heatsink designs, more high power kits, more board designs, more powerful boards. Most important... More inventory

I think Mixing different spectrum on same circuit in parallel can cause issues. Best to keep all parallel rows with same reel of diodes. Different spectrum reels could have slight variation in Vf.

However different spectrum can go in different circuits and you will have 2 inputs to board.are you talking about controlling 2700k and 4000k diodes separately or together

We can do alternate diodes of different spectrum but that may raise the cost.

I like to idea of a single spectrum. Keeps things simple and cost low.
We are looking into getting more deep red. Will have 2 types of prototypes boards ready in 3 weeks and we will post spectrum here. Napalm will do a journal

Steve has his own ideas. That is why we have 2 prototypes in design.:mrgreen:
I like the added red but in the end it probably isn't worth the added cost as the mono's are relatively more expensive.
 
First of all, I want to say that I have been following this thread avidly since I started here at RIU. I am planning to get in the game toward the end of the year, and I will spend my money at HLG. Here's why.

Yes, there's been a couple of trolls pop in and criticize HLG, Robin, Stephen, and the Quantum boards themselves. But you know what I have noticed? Not one of them has actually bought a board. The trolls can slag all they like, but the opinions that matter to me are the people that have dealt with HLG, can personally vouch for the customer service, and the performance of the boards.

In a game like this, the focus absolutely has to be on innovation. There's a saying, "You can patent a toaster, but you can't patent toast." In other words, this concept of mounting LEDS on a larger boards cannot be protected. All it would take is a minor change and someone can completely rip off the idea, so protecting this idea with a patent would be a waste of money.

Instead, HLG seems to be devoted to growing their business through advancing the technology. Trial and error. Different configurations. All of this consumes vast amounts of resources...time, energy, money. Despite being run ragged with these demands, Robin and Stephen take the time to ENGAGE with their clients here on this thread, and from all accounts, are very responsive to emails from their clients. They are present and that counts for a lot with me.

There have been some inventory hiccups. But remember, these are assembled offshore, which is simply a reality in the business world of manufacturing. Sure they could have the boards assembled domestically, but that would probably triple their costs. In order to keep the prices reasonable, they have chosen to place themselves at the tail end of a LONG supply chain. The offset of the cost of manufacture is the timeframe of delivery.

Yes, it would be nice to be able to whip up a batch of 10,000 boards overnight, but remember, this is a startup, and HLG is going through what all startups endure. They are investing their profits into bigger runs, and this takes time. I will be patient, and I suggest that others cultivate this virtue. Yes, it's frustrating to get shut out of a production run, but another should be in soon, and as HLG grows, the delays between runs will shrink, and the size of the inventory will grow.

This isn't a matter of skipping off to Wal-Mart and picking more product off the shelves. The LED's have to be sourced, the boards manufactured, and the product assembled. Then it gets stuffed into a shipping container, and floated over the ocean. The boxes are pulled from the container and delivered by truck. ALL of this takes time. I am sure Robin and Stephen wish they had a Genie whose lamp they could rub and **poof**, a new production run would magically appear on their doorstep. But it ain't so, and will never be so.

Anyway, this is turning into a wall of text. And it's only my second post here...lol.

Robin, Stephen. You already have my respect. Soon you will have my money as well.
 

ttystikk

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Quantum Board - MEXICAN LOLLIPOPS

Since today is an off day for me i thought i would pull the 2 SOG style plants i got going.
Yes they are some local ( west ) mexican sativa but i pop these once in a while.

Quantum lights on 12/12 from seed ( planted in 1 gallon bags ) week 1 of flower.
I changed mediums ( soil ) to Dr. Earth to give it a go. But i also decided to try that Liquid Solution ( 3/3/3 ) nute ... It is working very well , lush green colors and health.

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Note : This feed LITERALLY looks and smells like somebody took a shit in a bottle.
But the plants love it.
But it's organic!
LMFAO!
 

ttystikk

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I am a total believer in capitalism and the entrepreneurs and risk-takers who make it work. So to the fault finders, naysayers, and timid souls…


“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”


Theodore Roosevelt
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 

robincnn

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Slate 1
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20% thinner base than Slate 1. Should lower cost and offer at least same thermal performance as Slate 1.

Slate 3 - 1 Board 310mm Length should be under 10
Slate 3 Triple - 3 Board 890mm Length around 30
and both come in blue

Should 4/20 presale include Slate 3 Or a kit based on slate 3 Triple ?
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ttystikk

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First of all, I want to say that I have been following this thread avidly since I started here at RIU. I am planning to get in the game toward the end of the year, and I will spend my money at HLG. Here's why.

Yes, there's been a couple of trolls pop in and criticize HLG, Robin, Stephen, and the Quantum boards themselves. But you know what I have noticed? Not one of them has actually bought a board. The trolls can slag all they like, but the opinions that matter to me are the people that have dealt with HLG, can personally vouch for the customer service, and the performance of the boards.

In a game like this, the focus absolutely has to be on innovation. There's a saying, "You can patent a toaster, but you can't patent toast." In other words, this concept of mounting LEDS on a larger boards cannot be protected. All it would take is a minor change and someone can completely rip off the idea, so protecting this idea with a patent would be a waste of money.

Instead, HLG seems to be devoted to growing their business through advancing the technology. Trial and error. Different configurations. All of this consumes vast amounts of resources...time, energy, money. Despite being run ragged with these demands, Robin and Stephen take the time to ENGAGE with their clients here on this thread, and from all accounts, are very responsive to emails from their clients. They are present and that counts for a lot with me.

There have been some inventory hiccups. But remember, these are assembled offshore, which is simply a reality in the business world of manufacturing. Sure they could have the boards assembled domestically, but that would probably triple their costs. In order to keep the prices reasonable, they have chosen to place themselves at the tail end of a LONG supply chain. The offset of the cost of manufacture is the timeframe of delivery.

Yes, it would be nice to be able to whip up a batch of 10,000 boards overnight, but remember, this is a startup, and HLG is going through what all startups endure. They are investing their profits into bigger runs, and this takes time. I will be patient, and I suggest that others cultivate this virtue. Yes, it's frustrating to get shut out of a production run, but another should be in soon, and as HLG grows, the delays between runs will shrink, and the size of the inventory will grow.

This isn't a matter of skipping off to Wal-Mart and picking more product off the shelves. The LED's have to be sourced, the boards manufactured, and the product assembled. Then it gets stuffed into a shipping container, and floated over the ocean. The boxes are pulled from the container and delivered by truck. ALL of this takes time. I am sure Robin and Stephen wish they had a Genie whose lamp they could rub and **poof**, a new production run would magically appear on their doorstep. But it ain't so, and will never be so.

Anyway, this is turning into a wall of text. And it's only my second post here...lol.

Robin, Stephen. You already have my respect. Soon you will have my money as well.
Could not have said it better myself.

I do have quite a bit of their technology and it works so well I recently sold every HID lamp, fixture and ballast I own. I don't regret it a bit.
 

GardenGuy

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heya another question. why is hlg-240-1400 better than 240-54? robin told me and i cant get any diff except the wiring. 3xqb288 for me.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Is it possible to make a QB that has different color temperature rows all on the same board? Like a few 2700K and a few 4000K on the same board? In other words, is it possible to make your own custom spectrum formula using QBs? Or, is the tech still "either/or"?

I like the design of the ChilLED QBs for this reason...but instead of combining different temps of the Samsung strips, he uses old mono technology to add blue and red and UV. The UV idea I really like a LOT...and I want to get into the QBs now...but I fear that a whole bunch of new things are just over the horizon and I am tempted to wait and see if either the prices drop on these things ...OR, if they become customizable as I mentioned...

How do you people see it going over the next 6 months to a year?
i'm using one right now with alternating rows of 3000K and 5000K leds, my reasoning being that it will give me a balanced spectrum, not making little shrubs, or big stretchy beanpoles. seems to be working so far, getting just as much growth as i got with the 250watt MH and t5 combo i was using before, with a lot less heat to deal with, at about half the power consumption, and the plants are nice and full, stalks bigger than my thumb at 1 foot high
 

420Barista

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i'm using one right now with alternating rows of 3000K and 5000K leds, my reasoning being that it will give me a balanced spectrum, not making little shrubs, or big stretchy beanpoles. seems to be working so far, getting just as much growth as i got with the 250watt MH and t5 combo i was using before, with a lot less heat to deal with, at about half the power consumption, and the plants are nice and full, stalks bigger than my thumb at 1 foot high
Its nice YOUR using one but that doesnt help tstick does it? how about some info like where you got it? how many diodes in 3k and 5k?, Who made it? and will he make more?
are the 3k and 5k in dedicated channels to be contolled by separate controllers and or drivers?
 

QuarksRSmall

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Both options would appreciated on the next pre order. It appears that anything that you would like to offer concerning these boards, will be scooped up almost immediately. Ignore the naysayers and keep stepping up to the plate to take your swing. You are batting 1000% at the moment.
 

daone

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Roger A. Shrubber

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i got it off my friends workbench, i bought the leds from digikey, half
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SPMWH1221FD5GBV0SA/1510-1467-1-ND/6052630
and the other half
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SPMWH1221FD5GBRMSA/1510-1501-1-ND/6052664
my friend Gilford made it, and right now he's teaching me to make them myself, so i'll quit bugging him to do it for me.
they are NOT set up on different channels, they all run off the same buck converter, set to 4.5 amps and 44 volts.
my set up is a little more captain caveman than most, and these are basically the same chip in two different K ranges. its not causing me any problems that i'm aware of, i don't have a good meter, just an old lux meter, but they seem to all be operating as they ought to, when they're all on, you can't look at it and see any difference.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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greg nr

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How many spare volts on hlg240-1400 with 3x qb288 on? i wonder if i can add more boards or monos..
The spec sheet for that driver shows 179V. Not enough for a fourth board in series, however you can run 2 sets in series and then use parrallel to connect the sets to the driver.

Check the specs on the monos. There aren't many that can tolerate 1.4 A.......
 
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