Explicit Expression for Chebyshev Polynomials via Laurent Series

analog1961

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Has anyone used residues to calculate the Laurent expansion of the ordinary generating function for the Chebyshev polynomials of the first kind to find an explicit expression for the Chebyshev polynomials? I did it once and found one and it was correct in magnitude but the signs were wrong like a line integral was done backwards.
 

heckler73

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Has anyone used residues to calculate the Laurent expansion of the ordinary generating function for the Chebyshev polynomials of the first kind to find an explicit expression for the Chebyshev polynomials? I did it once and found one and it was correct in magnitude but the signs were wrong like a line integral was done backwards.
Complex analysis can do that...it is possible to have the same answer (i.e. magnitude) mirrored in a plane. I can't recall using residue theorem for "the Laurent expansion of the ordinary generating function of Chebyshev polynomials", though.
Sounds like mathochism, to me.
 

analog1961

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Sounds like mathochism, to me.
Yeah this type of problem is mathochistic. It's done the same way an explicit expression for Bessel functions is calculated by defining them in terms of the Laurent expansion of a generating function. The Bessel function's generating function has an exponential term that has to be expanded as a power series so when the Laurent integral is done term by term an infinite series results for each Bessel function. The Chebyshev generating function is a linear term over a quadratic and the Laurent integral can be done once using standard residue tables. So you wind up with finite expressions, the Chebyshev polynomials.

I did this 30 years ago and I never redid it to find my error. There's undoubtedly another approach.
 
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heckler73

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I did this 30 years ago and I never redid it to find my error. There's undoubtedly another approach.
:lol:
That's rather remarkable a 'problem' from 30 years ago haunts you still.
And yes, there is undoubtedly another approach. But why were you solving that problem? It sounds like it is something completely abstract.
I've only run into such 'weird' methods for solving the Helmholtz equation or problems involving wave equations IIRC, and they never were that complex.
 

analog1961

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:lol:
That's rather remarkable a 'problem' from 30 years ago haunts you still.
And yes, there is undoubtedly another approach. But why were you solving that problem? It sounds like it is something completely abstract.
I've only run into such 'weird' methods for solving the Helmholtz equation or problems involving wave equations IIRC, and they never were that complex.
I was a math major as an undergrad so this kind of exercise was routine and not really abstract at all. I was also an EE major years later and this problem came up in filter design so I got curious and tried the Bessel procedure from a first course in complex analysis and it worked with a little modification. I recently got interested in circuits again here looking at led lighting and this problem was in a stack of papers. But yeah every night for 30 years this problem has haunted my dreams and I wake up screaming.
 

heckler73

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I was a math major as an undergrad so this kind of exercise was routine and not really abstract at all. I was also an EE major years later and this problem came up in filter design so I got curious and tried the Bessel procedure from a first course in complex analysis and it worked with a little modification.
That's funny you mentioned that, because I was thinking back, and the only time Chebyshev had any prominence in my education, was in electronics for exactly that :lol:
But it wasn't until I studied Physics that the Bessel (and Legendre, ugh) aspects came in to play, more so. Oddly, Chebyshev made only a brief cameo in a noise class I took during that sojourn.


I recently got interested in circuits again here looking at led lighting and this problem was in a stack of papers. But yeah every night for 30 years this problem has haunted my dreams and I wake up screaming.

Have you tried this thing called 'marijuana'? I hear all the cool people are doing it.
 
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