My Amare Full-Bore Pro-4 Grow #1

OneHitDone

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People love getting high on Reggie from Mexico too, bud. All I was saying is that your plants look super stressed and that ain't their fault. Is yours. Congrats on wasting a ton of money on leds when your HPS should have been doing well enough you never should of wanted to switch. Such is the case with experimental growers..can't let good enough be. I have been doing a ton of research(reading/first hand) about LEDs. tell me, what is your room temperature? LED doesn't push anywhere near the same amount if any IR that a typical HPS would. Therefore you'll end up not transpiring enough water to cool leaves.. that by itself is enough to throw many variables off. I will leave you be, but I wouldn't try to be such a rude boy if you actually knew what you were doing... like I said, anyone can trial error, but why, when the info you desire is on the net. If you had your girls happy, those (we don't smoke leaves)LMAO!!!!) leaves sticking out of your "smelly" buds wouldn't be so crisp and sad. You do know that buds collect the exact same shit the leaves do. Go get your "trees" tested and I bet nobody will want to smoke it compared to what resides full time in my pocket. Why show boat when You can't even help others out. Like trying to tell me LEDs work, only because the plant can live under it. I see nothing thriving.... not even close to a HPS or even flowering under MH. Just saying. Don't get all B hurt and make some changes. Clearly you're on the right path. But you should get your variables locked down before you try and attribute any growth on one particular thing. But I am still curious what your CANOPY(right at the top) temperature is.
Bro, where were you when @Greengenes707 actually had a thread? Maybe you and @tags420 can get together and have a little pow wow. Talk about entertainment :lol:
 

Hybridway

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https://silassativarius.org/2015/02/03/3-keys-to-maximizing-plant-growth-temperature-co2-and-plant-metabolism/

this explains things pretty easy. Give this a run thru and let me know what you think
Yeah, I'm we aware of all that & allot more. Not just from reading on the net but from experience. Busy now, but if your around later, I can explain anything it is you're curious about or don't quite understand yet.
Then maybe you'll grasp that I'm capable of helping others. Not that it matters but I'd really like to help you.
 

SwitchHitter

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Yeah, I'm we aware of all that & allot more. Not just from reading on the net but from experience. Busy now, but if your around later, I can explain anything it is you're curious about or don't quite understand yet.
Then maybe you'll grasp that I'm capable of helping others. Not that it matters but I'd really like to help you.
Your number one problem is you think you know more than you do. Proof is NOT in the pudding! If anyone listens to your advice, I feel so sorry for them. Your crop looks rough and I am not trying to be a dick.. but damn man, those weeds got you feeling like superman hahaha that don't mean they're good though!! Just strong. Good genetics will be strong regardless if you have them looking funky
 

Hybridway

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Your number one problem is you think you know more than you do. Proof is NOT in the pudding! If anyone listens to your advice, I feel so sorry for them. Your crop looks rough and I am not trying to be a dick.. but damn man, those weeds got you feeling like superman hahaha that don't mean they're good though!! Just strong. Good genetics will be strong regardless if you have them looking funky
Why do you think act like I know more then I do? Why do you think I'm souped over this crop? Why do you think you know anything about these plants in my garden if you haven't read anything before today on my thread? Why do you think LEDs aren't good? Why do you think you know more then the freshest noob that visits my thread? Why do you think I'm showboating? Why don't you think I can help others? Why don't you ask questions rather than make assumptions? Do you know the difference from an external leaf issue to an internal?
Do you even grow? If so, what's your space & lighting consist of?
Why are you on the led section attempting to knock my grow if you think LEDs don't work?
Please do ask me anything pertaining to growing or lighting that you're not sure about or think I don't know. I'm always ready to learn more, cuz you really never stop learning if ones willing to listen w/ an open mind.
To answer your one question about my room temps, I'm between 82-85. Canopy is actually 1• less then the room because of the fans.
My hps canopy was an average of 7• warmer then the rooms ambient, so I aimed for 80• in that room.
I do run Co2.
 
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Hybridway

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Bro, where were you when @Greengenes707 actually had a thread? Maybe you and @tags420 can get together and have a little pow wow. Talk about entertainment :lol:
I highly doubt GG will visit my thread. Even know I think he can be a dick, & highly contradictory. I must say, him n I share many of the same views & opinions & I'd actually be up for discussion w/ him if he didn't always get shitty.
 

SwitchHitter

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Yeah, I'm we aware of all that & allot more. Not just from reading on the net but from experience. Busy now, but if your around later, I can explain anything it is you're curious about or don't quite understand yet.
Then maybe you'll grasp that I'm capable of helping others. Not that it matters but I'd really like to help you.
Why do you think I know more then I do? Why do you think I'm souped over this crop? Why do you think you know anything about these plants in my garden if you haven't read anything before today on my thread? Why do you think LEDs aren't good? Why do you think you know more then the freshest noob that visits my thread? Why do you think I'm showboating? Why don't you think I can help others? Why don't you ask questions rather than make assumptions? Do you know the difference from an external leaf issue to an internal?
Do you even grow? If so, what's your space & lighting consist of?
Why are you on the led section attempting to knock my grow if you think LEDs don't work?
Please do ask me anything pertaining to growing or lighting that you're not sure about or think I don't know. I'm always ready to learn more, cuz you really never stop learning if ones willing to listen w/ an open mind.
To answer your one question about my room temps, I'm between 82-85. Canopy is actually 1• less then the room because of the fans.
My hps canopy was an average of 7• warmer then the rooms ambient, so I aimed for 80• in that room.
I do run Co2.
I know things. I know one of my 5x10 with 3000 watts of DE will blow your harvest weight off the table like goose down feathers. I am only here to help prevent some newbie from adopting your not so hot approach to growth. But I guess many men came before us ad had to try things to determine what works best. Until LED shows me it's the best...no time to test
 

SwitchHitter

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I highly doubt GG will visit my thread. Even know I think he can be a dick, & highly contradictory. I must say, him n I share many of the same views & opinions.
Good gardeners don't rush and throw sad looking Veg plants that just had thrips into flower. Flower is a time for no stress. it's not a recovery session. You do you, grower. And I hope one day you really do pull off a crop under LED that makes my pants tight LOL. I will be around RIU to see
 

Hybridway

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I know things. I know one of my 5x10 with 3000 watts of DE will blow your harvest weight off the table like goose down feathers. I am only here to help prevent some newbie from adopting your not so hot approach to growth. But I guess many men came before us ad had to try things to determine what works best. Until LED shows me it's the best...no time to test
Really, I'm in a 4.5'x15'. The middle 4.5x4.5' section has 2 Flo plants on it that arent doing so well from the prior spray. The other 5 plants you're seeing are lucky to have made it IMO. Yeah, one should not rush to flower after eradicating Thripes. Especially after using 2 different products once I learned they needed Spynosin to do the job. Don't know if you noticed but I'm out of head room. These plants were almost to big as it was. So, another 2 weeks to shake it off wasn't really an option along w/ other things. This is a job not a hobby for me, so things are on a time schedule.
Right now I'm guessing these 5 beater plants under 5, 400w LED lights is going to haul 5+ #'s. So, I'd imagine were pretty close in weight & im using 1000w less. I don't think that's to bad at all. This is my first run w/ bigger plants under led. Last one was a bust do to trying a few new things in a new room. From here on out it will only get better. Got some gorgeous girls in veg for the next run.
As for stats on these in my garden in comparison to my 8K HPS room in trail runs, I doubled my GPW on average & increased my G/sq'. To sum it up, I'm getting a higher yield using 1/2-5/8 the electricity of higher quality bud. More crystals & terps by a decent amount.
Check around this section, you'll see some nice grows w/ pretty plants. Go to my earlier threads & you can see my old hps room full & direct comparisons of the bud from both rooms.
@sixstring2112 grows some pretty plants. Heavy & quality too. I'm working on getting some nice looking ones In here for next run. But honestly, I'm all about weight n quality & I'm exceeding my hps w/ my LEDs.
If you don't test for yourself you'll never know. If money is an issue, build a DIY cob light & do a side by side.
Hps has been the standard & for a damn good reason but now LEDs are the future.
Just stay clear of the shitty ones cuz they will dissapiont for sure.
Oh, feel free to answer some of the questions I laid out for you above. We'd love to hear it.:roll:
 
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SwitchHitter

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Really, I'm in a 4.5'x15'. The middle 4.5x4.5' section has 2 Flo plants on it that arent doing so well from the prior spray. The other 5 plants you're seeing are lucky to have made it IMO. Yeah, one should not rush to flower after eradicating Thripes. Especially after using 2 different products once I learned they needed Spynosin to do the job. Don't know if you noticed but I'm out of head room. These plants were almost to big as it was. So, another 2 weeks to shake it off wasn't really an option along w/ other things. This is a job not a hobby for me, so things are on a time schedule.
Right now I'm guessing these 5 beater plants under 5, 400w LED lights is going to haul 5+ #'s. So, I'd imagine were pretty close in weight & im using 1000w less. I don't think that's to bad at all. This is my first run w/ bigger plants under led. Last one was a bust do to trying a few new things in a new room. From here on out it will only get better. Got some gorgeous girls in veg for the next run.
As for stats on these in my garden in comparison to my 8K HPS room in trail runs, I doubled my GPW on average & increased my G/sq'. To sum it up, I'm getting a higher yield using 1/2-5/8 the electricity of higher quality bud. More crystals & terps by a decent amount.
So far, the only downfall I've seen is the colas are not as big but the weight is all there so I made the switch.
Check around this section, you'll see some nice grows w/ pretty plants. Go to my earlier threads & you can see my old hps room full & direct comparisons of the bud from both rooms.
@sixstring2112 grows some pretty plants. I'm working on getting some nice looking ones In here for next run. But honestly, I'm all about weight n quality & I'm exceeding my hps w/ my LEDs.
If you don't test for yourself you'll never know. If money is an issue, build a DIY cob light & do a side by side.
Hps has been the standard & for a damn good reason but now LEDs are the future.
Just stay clear of the shitty ones cuz they will dissapiont for sure.
Oh, feel free to answer some of the questions I laid out for you above. We'd love to hear it.:roll:
Well there you go!Excellent, I love reading actual numbers, not just some projection of the future. I'm a simple man who sticks to what works and SLOWLY implements new tech. I have been watching and starting new gardens the past four years.. I am the guy people actually see face to face with their problems. Typically I fix every one. On RollitUp I don't do much. But it was fun busting your chops about your grow. Keep up the hard work and progress

I am 100% certain everyone would love to know everything I do.. But I will leave that up to you--you show em your garden. Mine are not public. Because they are worth ripping off!!! LOL, busting your balls!!
 

Hybridway

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Well there you go!Excellent, I love reading actual numbers, not just some projection of the future. I'm a simple man who sticks to what works and SLOWLY implements new tech. I have been watching and starting new gardens the past four years.. I am the guy people actually see face to face with their problems. Typically I fix every one. On RollitUp I don't do much. But it was fun busting your chops about your grow. Keep up the hard work and progress

I am 100% certain everyone would love to know everything I do.. But I will leave that up to you--you show em your garden. Mine are not public. Because they are worth ripping off!!! LOL, busting your balls!!
It's all good. We cool. Yeah, hope you stick around for weigh in & hopefully nicer looking plants in next run.
Seriously though, you should cop a good led light n try it out. I was very skeptical @ first too. That's why I did trail runs & direct comparisons on my other threads. Also did a side by side using a Burple led vs. these enhanced white ones. In a 4'x4' my enhanced white SE-450 (450w) yielded 11oz. more then the Burple light (535w) (same purchase cost), same strain n cut.
See, good LEDs put out a higher quality spectrum & more light per watt, translating to higher yields & better quality.
 
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re STRAIN me

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That's a recipe for success right there. Those Pro-9's are some serious power.
For those wondering, I never did get to hang mine @ my buddies DE grow. Maybe next time.
I can only order 1 pro9 as they wont be ready for another month, they can't keep up with demand, what are your thoughts on the pro4s, I wonder how 2x pro4s, 1x pro 9 would go
 

Hybridway

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I can only order 1 pro9 as they wont be ready for another month, they can't keep up with demand, what are your thoughts on the pro4s, I wonder how 2x pro4s, 1x pro 9 would go
A Pro-4 on either side of a Pro-9 would be awesome. The Pro-4's will give you better coverage though being the bar style design @ 36" long.
 

Hybridway

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What happened to the Goji OG? Never saw or hurd from it again!
I let that one go. She was nice but did not compare to GG#4 in smell. Yields were close, quality was good, but just not enough stank for the needed appeal. She was a great vertical growing plant though.
I've been strain hunting for the past year.
Got 10 running now but am aiming to get down to 6.
 

Vato_504

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I let that one go. She was nice but did not compare to GG#4 in smell. Yields were close, quality was good, but just not enough stank for the needed appeal. She was a great vertical growing plant though.
I've been strain hunting for the past year.
Got 10 running now but am aiming to get down to 6.
Would 2 pro3's be to much for a 3x3
 
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