You just got to this thread today, Grandpapy?
Dear Black Voter..
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No, you didn't.
ttystikk
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Right now we're in the part of the movie where the bad guys are winning.Reminds me of the old Godzilla v. Mothra..
ttystikk
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What do you say to his critique?
And yet your derogatory is acceptable..yeah, welcome back..thanks for the PM.
Grandpapy
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No, I stopped (got lost) in LA yesterday. That fueled my comment.
You have a dozen people standing here calling you out on your racist bullshit and you have yet to address it.
Why do YOU feel the need to separate people based solely on their skin color?
dagwood45431
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Yep, more Fake History spoon fed to the morons who love Fake News. X was definitely frustrated with the lack of movement on the Civil Rights bill when the Democrats had a majority (and who can fault him for that?). The conservatives were able to fuck things up anyway. That's their speciality. It's happening again now.
ttystikk
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LA does that to people...
ttystikk
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The Black vote is not monolithic, any more than the Female vote. The problem with a two party system is that once a large demographic signs onto one or the other, they can get taken for granted and their concerns are often brushed off out of expediency in the name of 'larger goals'.
Okay, let's break it down:
1. Typically, I don't discuss the contribution I make to my fellow man because those gifts are from the heart; selflessness is not about receiving a compliment. Occasionally, I do share because it's pertinent to story I'm telling.
2. Sometimes it's best to put yourself in another's shoes before passing judgement.
3. If the title read what you suggested, it would've been nonsensical.
4. Old white men have done more to fracture this country than all races combined.
dagwood45431
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The Republican platform is diametrically opposed to the health and happiness of minorities. Until that changes it's not like black voters have two equally compelling parties to chose from.
ttystikk
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... And we wonder why they don't vote, lol
abandonconflict
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What are you talking about? I didn't PM you.
dagwood45431
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Ah, but the logical thing to do is vote Democratic (or progressive in general) until that changes. There is absolutely no question that voting republicant (or allowing republicants to win by withholding the vote) is the worst possible outcome.
ttystikk
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Allowing Democrats to take their votes for granted hasn't worked out well, either.
Black people, along with other racial minorities and even most white people, simply aren't seeing their needs being served by the Democratic Party.
The rise of right wing populism isn't so much a repudiation of liberalism as it is an expression of desperation BECAUSE people don't feel either party is effectively representing them.
Bernie's enormous popularity was and remains as much a threat to the establishment Democrats as it was to Republicans, and they know it. Hence little effort to bring him into the Democratic party mainstream.
Bernie could not have won without the Democratic Party. He simply lacked infrastructure and the fact that he wasn't on the ballot in all the States. That is changing even now and things could be different for 2020 for the presidency, and sooner for Senate and House races.
I think Bernie and the Progressive Movement would do very well to press their case with minorities and economically disadvantaged demographics across the country. At the very least, they'd be kingmakers. That's finally a position of power and influence in politics that has the leverage to get results.
In the final analysis, I think that everyone making less than $50k/yr would be well served by such a liberal progressive, dare I say Social Democratic party, whatever the color of their skin. The case must be made on their terms, something perhaps Bernie did not do as well as he could have.
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dagwood45431
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The differences between your views and mine are probably finer than one of Donald Trump's hair flap strands. I did not love Clinton and I did not dislike Sanders. I too long for a much more progressive society. Long-term, perhaps, Donald J Fuckface Jr. Trump will cause a rebound in that direction. Who knows?
May I ask for an example of how the dems have taken the black vote for granted?
ttystikk
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The Clinton crime bill.
SneekyNinja
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Now it makes excuses for its racism...
Are you saying your racism is justified?
Cos every racist says that and its never true.
dagwood45431
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Fuck...you got me there. I think you might have a point. Goddamn it! Now I have to go read about it to refresh my memory on the particulars. I'll be back later. Thanks, dick.
