The Truth About Flushing

Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Budley Doright said:
Ok so I'm guessing no to the boiled roots thing then? Well I may try it on one of my outdoor girls just to see what all the fuss is about. And yes I've always wondered why, if it is "some say the best strain in the world" actual quote I believe, why the fuck you aren't a gazillionaire, I would be, bad marketing I'm figuring lol.
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I actually did this back in the day. Once. I was growing indoors with a 50/50 perlite/ vermiculite mix. But then i used to hang plants upside down so the resin would flow into the buds...yes it was pre internet days..lol .I dont know if boiling water did anything or not to be honest as i didnt have a control. Maybe it does start the cure earlier? idk..really needs scientific experiments done.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Odin* said:
In what sense did you "gain maybe 3 or 4 days". Was this in time to dry completely, in a 1 month cure? Not refuting your statement, it's just that I believe such "results" are purely anecdotal.

I sever them from the roots, hang them up side down in a dark controlled environment, and they are as smooth as crab in butter after the 5-7 days it takes them to dry. In that time they are ready to be bagged and the nose is overwhelming.



No, I pointed out that the plants are not performing anaerobic respiration after their roots are boiled (which contradicts your assertions) and I pointed out that if they do perform anaerobic respiration (due to the entire plant being submerged) it is stressful/detrimental to the plant (which also contradicts your assertions).

Since you're still using diversion/redirection to maintain your stance, I'll go out on a limb and guess you're going to attempt to use this portion of my post as "support" of your argument;



The plant drawing water from buds to cool itself and any mobile nutrients used in an effort to continue photosynthesis is not akin to "anaerobic respiration"/fermentation. The metabolic processes that continue after boiling the roots are "riddled" with stress and detriment.

This is where you say "no, tis not what I was referring to". So, here's your chance to point out the portion of my post that proves that the plant begins anaerobic respiration after boiling the roots and that it initiates a "faster cure".
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purely my own experience, it usually takes me 3 to 5 days to dry, and another 3 to 5 to cure,(til its good enough to sell) the cure only took me 2 days, but the rest of the time was consumed by the plant sitting there wilting, so as i said, no real gain, what you gain in the jars is lost by the time in the pot
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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RM3 said:
Only in your dreams LMAO
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Read any of your threads. Anyone who disagrees with your method is a hater and closed minded.

And you have better weed because of your methods.

You say it many many times.

Unfortunately for you. It isn't true. And in a world where growing marijuana is common. You are just a silly old misinformed hack.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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And @RM3

To keep with your thread I will explain the "truth about you flushing" like a noob after 20 years.

You have a method that is already called leaching to clear the excess salts out of your cat litter filled over used peat mix. You call dumping a bunch of un needed water through "make it rain".

Then you pour more water and nutes in and then leach again.

You leach every time you fertilize.

And then you flush with boiling water when they are done.

Lotta flushing going on.

You do this because you have no idea what you are doing and so you "flush" your pots continually like a beginner

And you have little stunted plants as a result with early deficiencies and very little bud. And every one hermies and has seeds.

You of course say you planned it that way. Lol.

Maybe if you stop adding so much sulfer and potassium the lock outs would stop.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
purely my own experience, it usually takes me 3 to 5 days to dry, and another 3 to 5 to cure,(til its good enough to sell) the cure only took me 2 days, but the rest of the time was consumed by the plant sitting there wilting, so as i said, no real gain, what you gain in the jars is lost by the time in the pot
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I'm not sure a 3-5 day cure is really a cure, I'm not knocking you at all, I'm smoking it the minute it burns lol.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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3 to 5 days is how long it takes to start smelling skunky again, you can smoke it the day after i stick it in the jars. if i ever get a chance to let any get more than a week old, i'd cure longer, as it is, i have to hide my own stash and tell people i'm out, go away to keep any
 
newgrowboxgrower

newgrowboxgrower

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Holy crap, I just read the entire thread. All 31 pages. I was considering trying this in hydro.... Up until the boil the roots part.

It seemed like it was making sense. When the plants look like they are at peak harvest I would try it. I would add a dehumidifier to the flower area and fill the reservoir up to the net pots with full strength nutes. The rock wool in the net pots would be just touching the nutrient solution. Set the chiller to 49*F. Turn off air pump. Then top up with ph'd water daily for the next 5 days with hids still on 12/12. Shut lights off for 48hrs and chop.

I was really going to try this. But then this thread started going to the "boil the roots" direction and I realized that this is a myth someone is trying to create by saying that regular flushing is just a myth.

Another thing that threw me off a little bit at the beginning of the thread was when they were saying that clean white ash has nothing to do with how well the bud was finished.
Honestly the best bud in any joint only leaves a clean white ash behind and that is definitely not a myth.
Great read @RM3 but I am not convinced that "drowning the bitch" is the best way to treat her at the end of a good grow.
 
newgrowboxgrower

newgrowboxgrower

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newgrowboxgrower said:
Holy crap, I just read the entire thread. All 31 pages. I was considering trying this in hydro.... Up until the boil the roots part.

It seemed like it was making sense. When the plants look like they are at peak harvest I would try it. I would add a dehumidifier to the flower area and fill the reservoir up to the net pots with full strength nutes. The rock wool in the net pots would be just touching the nutrient solution. Set the chiller to 49*F. Turn off air pump. Then top up with ph'd water daily for the next 5 days with hids still on 12/12. Shut lights off for 48hrs and chop.

I was really going to try this. But then this thread started going to the "boil the roots" direction and I realized that this is a myth someone is trying to create by saying that regular flushing is just a myth.

Another thing that threw me off a little bit at the beginning of the thread was when they were saying that clean white ash has nothing to do with how well the bud was finished.
Honestly the best bud in any joint only leaves a clean white ash behind and that is definitely not a myth.
Great read @RM3 but I am not convinced that "drowning the bitch" is the best way to treat her at the end of a good grow.
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Hey @RM3, After reading more of your threads I can tell that you are a good dude, still unsure about "drowning the bitch" lol
 
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Yodaweed

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newgrowboxgrower said:
Holy crap, I just read the entire thread. All 31 pages. I was considering trying this in hydro.... Up until the boil the roots part.

It seemed like it was making sense. When the plants look like they are at peak harvest I would try it. I would add a dehumidifier to the flower area and fill the reservoir up to the net pots with full strength nutes. The rock wool in the net pots would be just touching the nutrient solution. Set the chiller to 49*F. Turn off air pump. Then top up with ph'd water daily for the next 5 days with hids still on 12/12. Shut lights off for 48hrs and chop.

I was really going to try this. But then this thread started going to the "boil the roots" direction and I realized that this is a myth someone is trying to create by saying that regular flushing is just a myth.

Another thing that threw me off a little bit at the beginning of the thread was when they were saying that clean white ash has nothing to do with how well the bud was finished.
Honestly the best bud in any joint only leaves a clean white ash behind and that is definitely not a myth.
Great read @RM3 but I am not convinced that "drowning the bitch" is the best way to treat her at the end of a good grow.
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I wouldn't follow anything that rm3 says, he thinks T5's are the best lights and recommends pouring boiling water on your plants. He also says if you are growing plants that smell you are doing it wrong cause his plants never smell.
 
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