Universal Basic Income; 'bout time or batshit crazy?

esh dov ets

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People who don't earn an income aren't wage earners. The statistic you quote is "median personal income" of people who earn one. I don't even know what to call what you are referring to but it would be a lot less than 30k.
i'm not talking about median income
 

esh dov ets

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I'll give you a hint...

Its symbolism, you give it to them with one hand and take many times more with the other.

Its based on the principle that everyone gets it, hence "universal".
that's ridiculous. sounds like continuing to tax the poor to feed the rich
 

twostrokenut

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then call his bluff and give him your address.

it's not like the military trained him to be a marksman that could take you out from hundreds of yards away or anything. then vanish without a trace.

edit: hey, where did your sig go?
i can give him your details then you two can Broke Back Mountain each other and his expertise can help you target your loads.

i can hit hundreds of yards with iron sights, so my loads are good bunky.
 

twostrokenut

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I was there last weekend. I knew two of them.
you honestly think Dylan roof was a Christian? buck used the old testament so do seven day Adventists.....if roof were a religious christian then most likely he read the new testament.

can you show me the honor killing verses in either of those?
 

UncleBuck

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you honestly think Dylan roof was a Christian? buck used the old testament so do seven day Adventists.....if roof were a religious christian then most likely he read the new testament.

can you show me the honor killing verses in either of those?
why are you trying to apologize for a guy that literally murdered 9 black people for being black?

is it because you both spew the same bullshit that the CCC does?
 

twostrokenut

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This is your life? Seriously? I should have figured.
at the moment yes. I am flying 3 models and talking to your fake libertarian ass while waiting for batteries to charge off a deep cycle marine battery hooked to a really big battery tender solar panel that has an integrated charge controller.

tomorrow I am riding the 36 to eureka. have fun in summer school tomorrow.
 

twostrokenut

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why are you trying to apologize for a guy that literally murdered 9 black people for being black?

is it because you both spew the same bullshit that the CCC does?
fuck Dylan roof and your flailing, failing identity politics. he was not a Christian. the people he murdered were christians.
 

esh dov ets

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So giving them 2k a month to take 5 extra in taxes doesn't make sense to you?
so you are adding 5 times 225,000,000 (people who work) = 1,125,000,000
but you need 38,731,440,000 . my first draft plan gives us that.
you are still 37,606,440,000 short ,or less if you don't count kids or some groups.
you are twice as short case you want an $2000 per person;; which they will say is too much.
 
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Fogdog

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i i was using the top 1% to cover half the total pop . 159 million is half the pop not half the earners. everyone under 30k including kids can be easily covered by taxing to top 2 % wealthiest . everyone including kids living ff of less than 30 k is just over 50% of the total pop.
Your statistic of 30k being just over 50% of the total population is off because that's not how it is calculated or what the statistic means. Otherwise, we are in complete agreement.
 

Fogdog

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You know what's amazing?

The people of that EAM church are actually praying for that asshole.

I spoke with Chris (Sharonda's son) and even he is praying for that waste of life.

That's what pisses me off more than anything - they're actually people of God, salt of the earth, as good as they come...and that sack of shit is still breathing.

And nobody cares. They're all too worried about some Muslim that got a scholarship to Yale getting into the country.
Not that I'm particularly religious but to forgive is part of healing. Forgiveness is for the benefit of the harmed. They can forgive whether the perp (I won't write his name) understands their deed or not. But forgiveness has to be given to be a healing power and not forced. Most but not all of the people affected by the Charleston shooter forgave the perp. It's about moving on and being ready to do so. The grace of those people are amazing.

And yeah, I haven't forgiven him even though I'm just a bystander. Again, the grace of the people who forgave him is amazing to me. But that forgiveness is helping them, not the shooter. The shooter hasn't shown any remorse. He's still burning inside. I hope he chokes on it.
 
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